robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:12am
We need to stop comparing Lebron and Durant, they really are two different players with two different styles/mentalities. Durant has more of that Iverson scorers mentality, looking to score first always. Lebron has more of a team first approach, looking to make plays and get others involved, even to a fault at times.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Jun 15, 2012 12:13am
I'd try to start Collison then bring Perk in. Try to combat those slow starts, while not really hurting the rebounding battle.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Jun 15, 2012 12:13am
robj55;1200857 wrote:We need to stop comparing Lebron and Durant, they really are two different players with two different styles/mentalities. Durant has more of that Iverson scorers mentality, looking to score first always. Lebron has more of a team first approach, looking to make plays and get others involved, even to a fault at times.
LeBron means way more to his team.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:14am
I think Brooks likes Collison's energy off the bench, which is why we may see him not starting.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:15am
I already argued this earlier, don't wanna get into it again though. Taking nothing from Durant, he is sensational and reminds me of just a young kid who loves to play the game and enjoys the moment.Tiger2003;1200859 wrote:LeBron means way more to his team.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 15, 2012 12:16am
Yep. It should be Ibaka and Collison.robj55;1200854 wrote:Yeah he got flamed last year for not starting Collison over Perk against the Mavs in the playoffs.
You cant put Perkins at the 5 against Bosh. Hell, there was a stretch tonight when Perkins was on the court while Bosh was at the 5 and Bron was at the 4,that cant happen
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:16am
They need to get off Westbrook, he is playing outstanding basketball. Durant is getting the ball more than enough, and he is more efficient in part thanks to Westbrook who opens up the whole game for him.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Jun 15, 2012 12:17am
robj55;1200862 wrote:I already argued this earlier, don't wanna get into it again though. Taking nothing from Durant, he is sensational and reminds me of just a young kid who loves to play the game and enjoys the moment.
LeBron means more.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 15, 2012 12:18am
robj55;1200857 wrote:We need to stop comparing Lebron and Durant, they really are two different players with two different styles/mentalities. Durant has more of that Iverson scorers mentality, looking to score first always. Lebron has more of a team first approach, looking to make plays and get others involved, even to a fault at times.
I cant agree with this. One of the biggest knocks on KD is that he's not selfish enough.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jun 15, 2012 12:18am
Collison only played 15 minutes tonight. He shouldn't be under 20 at all in this series.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:19am
His shot to pass ratio has to be one of the highest in the league, when he gets it, it generally is going up. Miami did a good job tonight denying him the ball at times.KR1245;1200866 wrote:I cant agree with this. One of the biggest knocks on KD is that he's not selfish enough.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 15, 2012 12:19am
Except Lebron averages shooting more times than KD. Its not like KD is a ballhog and jacks up dumb shots and is a volume scorer like Iverson. Hes an efficient, high basketball iq, scorer who can score from anywhere on the court with ease.robj55;1200857 wrote:We need to stop comparing Lebron and Durant, they really are two different players with two different styles/mentalities. Durant has more of that Iverson scorers mentality, looking to score first always. Lebron has more of a team first approach, looking to make plays and get others involved, even to a fault at times.
Lebron is a better passer no doubt, but Kd isnt leaps and bounds behind him in terms of helping and being valuable to his team, if at all really.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Jun 15, 2012 12:19am
I wouldn't change anything for OKC in the starting lineup. They just need to play better in the first 12 minutes.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 15, 2012 12:20am
Did Stephen A just say that Westrbook is the worst pg in finals history?
Has he been watching Chalmers?
Has he been watching Chalmers?
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 15, 2012 12:20am
SportsAndLady;1200838 wrote:Does ernest ever have anything to add?
This post is just as bad as my "antagonizing" posts.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:20am
You missed my point, I wasn't saying that he isn't a team player or whatever, that's his role to score. He shoots it almost every time he touches it, but he is great at that so why shouldn't he.Hb31187;1200870 wrote:Except Lebron averages shooting more times than KD. Its not like KD is a ballhog and jacks up dumb shots and is a volume scorer like Iverson. Hes an efficient, high basketball iq, scorer who can score from anywhere on the court with ease.
Lebron is a better passer no doubt, but Kd isnt leaps and bounds behind him in terms of helping and being valuable to his team, if at all really.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:22am
Lebron is more of a point forward and is asked to run the offense, while Durant isn't. Like I said, two different players who aren't really comparable from what their teams are asking of them.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 15, 2012 12:22am
Then Lebron must shoot too much for you since he puts up more shots a game than Kd? albeit he also has more assists by a decent marginrobj55;1200874 wrote:You missed my point, I wasn't saying that he isn't a team player or whatever, that's his role to score. He shoots it almost every time he touches it, but he is great at that so why shouldn't he.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Jun 15, 2012 12:23am
He's playing bad, but good as well. Kinda odd to describe. He's played big down the stretch, not he's no efficient. KD should be the one shooting 4 more times a game, not him.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:23am
Westbrook is averaging huge numbers with low turnovers, this shit of getting on him is ridiculous.KR1245;1200872 wrote:Did Stephen A just say that Westrbook is the worst pg in finals history?
Has he been watching Chalmers?
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 15, 2012 12:23am
Agree with thatrobj55;1200875 wrote:Lebron is more of a point forward and is asked to run the offense, while Durant isn't. Like I said, two different players who aren't really comparable from what their teams are asking of them.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 15, 2012 12:23am
wes_mantooth;1200832 wrote:Do you have anything to add besides antagonizing?
Anyhow, the non call was shit, but Lebron knocking down the free throws was clutch as fuck
Seriously? STHU
Honestly, if Durant plays 4 quarters like he does the 4th, this series would be over in four games. It's unbelievable how he can score. Why don't guys like him (and Lebron) just do this shit all game?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 15, 2012 12:24am
Like I said, shot to pass ratio, Lebron often will pass up a shot to get a teammate involved. I'm not knocking Durant that's just what it is.Hb31187;1200876 wrote:Then Lebron must shoot too much for you since he puts up more shots a game than Kd? albeit he also has more assists by a decent margin
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 15, 2012 12:24am
Hes playing great, its just the media has it in their mind that Kd needs to shoot 30 times a game for them to win. Hes not a volume scorer. And Westbrook is doing just what Brooks wants him tojpake1;1200877 wrote:He's playing bad, but good as well. Kinda odd to describe. He's played big down the stretch, not he's no efficient. KD should be the one shooting 4 more times a game, not him.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 15, 2012 12:26am
Why does Stephen A have a job? The dude is a complete hack