Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jun 11, 2012 2:15pm
I'd drink to LeBron going to Europe. Not sure he realizes the prevalent racism over there, he'd wilt the second someone threw a banana at himFly4Fun;1195531 wrote:No one.
After the Thunder win the first 2 games, the city of Seattle starts a holy war against Oklahoma City and lays siege to the city and takes the whole team hostage. Meanwhile LeBron once again decides to quit on a team mid-series, but this time instead of waiting to the end he quits after game 2. He then announces he is taking his talents to the Euro leagues where he figures everyone will love him and he will dominate. And in light of the simultaneous events the NBA cancels the series and names Boston the winners of the 2011-2012 season.
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elbuckeye28
Posts: 919
Jun 11, 2012 3:01pm
I guess I don't see OKC's bench as that impressive besides Harden. Fisher is a good backup and is capable of a big shot here and there. Collison is serviceable. Other than that, they really don't have too much.dlazz;1195153 wrote:Compare their benches and get back to me.
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elbuckeye28
Posts: 919
Jun 11, 2012 3:04pm
Really? I don't see an overwhelming match up advantage for either side. The biggest advantage is the Thunder having home court.Hb31187;1194591 wrote:OKC in 6, they match up PERFECT with Miami.
Over/Under LBJ guards Durant 50% of the time?
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 11, 2012 3:16pm
Biggest advantage I see is in the backcourt .. Westbrook/Harden/Sefolosha/Fisher over Wade/Chalmers/Miller/Cole all day IMO.
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elbuckeye28
Posts: 919
Jun 11, 2012 3:30pm
You are probably correct, but Sefolosha and Fisher are so limited in one major aspect of the game (offense for Sefolosha and defense for Fisher) that they are at a disadvantage at one end of the court when one of them is out there. While none of the players from the Heat that you listed (obviously besides Wade as well as Miller's shooting) are particularly great at anything, they aren't huge liabilities on either end of the floor (at least bring something to the table on both sides of the ball).gorocks99;1195624 wrote:Biggest advantage I see is in the backcourt .. Westbrook/Harden/Sefolosha/Fisher over Wade/Chalmers/Miller/Cole all day IMO.
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MontyBrunswick
Jun 11, 2012 3:50pm
gorocks99;1195624 wrote:Biggest advantage I see is in the backcourt .. Westbrook/Harden/Sefolosha/Fisher over Wade/Chalmers/Miller/Cole all day IMO.
This.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jun 11, 2012 4:09pm
Over/Under fouls per game on Lebron while guarding the best scorer in the league? 1.5? 2.5?
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 11, 2012 8:29pm
Last two years have been to the Finals and finished with one of the best records in the NBA. And have 3 olympians on their rosterdlazz;1195329 wrote:I wouldn't call the Heat an elite team. When their players who AREN'T the big 3 don't show up they almost always lose.
OKC is more stable/consistent as a whole.
Do they have elite players? Yes. Are they an elite team? No.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 11, 2012 8:31pm
How about just bench in general? This is a very deep team compared to Miami. However Lebron could probably play 48 minutes and not run out of gasgorocks99;1195624 wrote:Biggest advantage I see is in the backcourt .. Westbrook/Harden/Sefolosha/Fisher over Wade/Chalmers/Miller/Cole all day IMO.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 11, 2012 9:52pm
OKC's depth is exaggerated due to Harden's ability to score. Miami can bring either Battier or Haslem off the bench, if Miller was healthy he is a really good role player, Norris Cole can change tempo and Joel Anthony can defend in the post or in the pick and roll and blocks shots and rebounds. James Jones is also one of the best shooters in the league. OKC's main bench guys are Harden(who is basically a starter and plays starter minutes) and Collison, who is a dirty work type of guy similar to Haslem.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 11, 2012 10:01pm
Harden alone makes the OKC bench better.robj55;1195993 wrote:OKC's depth is exaggerated due to Harden's ability to score. Miami can bring either Battier or Haslem off the bench, if Miller was healthy he is a really good role player, Norris Cole can change tempo and Joel Anthony can defend in the post or in the pick and roll and blocks shots and rebounds. James Jones is also one of the best shooters in the league. OKC's main bench guys are Harden(who is basically a starter and plays starter minutes) and Collison, who is a dirty work type of guy similar to Haslem.
I know he is a corpse but I'm still taking Fisher over Norris Cole
I'll take Collison over Anthony
Jones is a good shooter but that is the only thing he can do is spot up behind the arc, D Cook does the exact same thing but gives you more athleticism
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 11, 2012 10:06pm
God though this series will be played at such an incredibly fast pace. Both teams love to fly up the court and Wade/LBJ are very similar players offensively to Westbrook/Durant. Thing is Bosh has to play huge because Miami can't really spread out the Thunder
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 11, 2012 10:09pm
I don't consider Harden a part of the bench because he is essentially a starter. IF Mike Miller were healthy and able to run and play the way he is capable of he would be the best bench player in the series, unfortunately we won't see that. I don't think Cook or James Jones will see many minutes. If Haslem comes off the bench he is better than Collison, just depends on who starts I guess. I would guess that Miami is going to start Chalmers, Wade, Lebron, Haslem and Bosh but I could be wrong obviously.KR1245;1196015 wrote:Harden alone makes the OKC bench better.
I know he is a corpse but I'm still taking Fisher over Norris Cole
I'll take Collison over Anthony
Jones is a good shooter but that is the only thing he can do is spot up behind the arc, D Cook does the exact same thing but gives you more athleticism
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 11, 2012 10:10pm
Bosh needs to bring Ibaka or Perkins away from the basket and if I'm Miami I put Perkins in a pick and roll situation often because he is horrible in it. A lot of chess moves will take place during this series and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.Classyposter58;1196027 wrote:God though this series will be played at such an incredibly fast pace. Both teams love to fly up the court and Wade/LBJ are very similar players offensively to Westbrook/Durant. Thing is Bosh has to play huge because Miami can't really spread out the Thunder
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 11, 2012 10:13pm
I'd take Brooks over Spoelstra all day. And the last 4 games the Thunder totally stopped that Pick n Rollrobj55;1196035 wrote:Bosh needs to bring Ibaka or Perkins away from the basket and if I'm Miami I put Perkins in a pick and roll situation often because he is horrible in it. A lot of chess moves will take place during this series and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 11, 2012 10:17pm
I would take Brooks as well. They stopped Parker because they doubled him. Not as easy to double a guy who is 6'8'' and one of the best passers in the game though.Classyposter58;1196037 wrote:I'd take Brooks over Spoelstra all day. And the last 4 games the Thunder totally stopped that Pick n Roll
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2012 1:35pm
I think Fisher will be making some key shots this series. This is when he shines the most.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2012 1:36pm
2.5, there will be a make up foul toward the end of the games.2kool4skool;1195674 wrote:Over/Under fouls per game on Lebron while guarding the best scorer in the league? 1.5? 2.5?
Odds that SQ will be back posting on OC if the Heat win it all???
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 12, 2012 1:45pm
Ill take OKC in 6. Mostly cause I dont see them losing at home, and I dont see Miami winning 3 in a row agaisnt them.
OKC 1-2
Miami 3
OKC 4
Miami 5
OKC 6
Could also see Miami taking 3-4 and OKC taking 5 in Miami
OKC 1-2
Miami 3
OKC 4
Miami 5
OKC 6
Could also see Miami taking 3-4 and OKC taking 5 in Miami
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 12, 2012 1:46pm
A definite. He still QQs about OC on FB. Fucking pathetic.like_that;1196731 wrote:2.5, there will be a make up foul toward the end of the games.
Odds that SQ will be back posting on OC if the Heat win it all???
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 12, 2012 1:52pm
Serious??Commander of Awesome;1196745 wrote:A definite. He still QQs about OC on FB. Fucking pathetic.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jun 12, 2012 2:12pm
Commander of Awesome;1196745 wrote:A definite. He still QQs about OC on FB. Fucking pathetic.
Lol...that is disturbing
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 12, 2012 2:44pm
Hell manage to get like 1 foul a game guarding the leagues best scorer. Noway the NBA wants its cash cow out of the game...as much bullshit as it is2kool4skool;1195674 wrote:Over/Under fouls per game on Lebron while guarding the best scorer in the league? 1.5? 2.5?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jun 12, 2012 2:49pm
like_that;1196731 wrote:2.5, there will be a make up foul toward the end of the games.
Odds that SQ will be back posting on OC if the Heat win it all???
He posts here all the time under the name robj
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 12, 2012 2:52pm
lol'd.Crimson streak;1196849 wrote:He posts here all the time under the name robj