fan_from_texas;1190704 wrote:Mindlessly following written procedure for the sake of following written procedure seems like a bad idea. Rules don't have innate significance; they're significant and meaningful only to the extent they provide for some sort of social or moral goal. That's not to say the school was wrong here--it looks like it, but we're probably not getting the whole story. But still, the idea of following rules for the sake of following rules seems a bit silly.

Instead of mindlessly following written procedure, the school is ctually refusing to draw a line. The line being that students are allowed to break a graduation-requirement rule to attend a job interview (which is what this is) and having it appear the decision was based on salary. Because, if the school allows this, they must allow other students to miss practice for a job interview that was scheduled by the employer and still walk for graduation. It's pretty simple - I'm not sure why anyone would having trouble grasping that concept, not meaning you specifically; of course.

bigkahuna;1190742 wrote:Isn't it funny that the kid asked to have his phone with him? Do you know how many kids I've seen in the halls during class with their phones in their pockets or something?

I noticed that too. I am thinking that they were warned about having their phones during the rehearsel/practice and that is why he asked. If it was just at school.......he woulda just snuck it like every other day

pnhasbeen;1190705 wrote:I'm pretty sure schools want their students and especially their athletes that travel to other schools representing them to be good and be successful. This kid seems to be definitely successful.

By that logic, the school would be allowing rules to be bent or broken and giving exception to those rules based on the level of success the student attained during his/her time there. Schools can't possibly use a system like that, legally speaking.

ts1227;1190707 wrote:I used common sense to come to that conclusion. You wouldn't understand

You used your opinion only. There was no logic involved.

why couldnt the kid just give the cell phone to his dad or someone who would just wait outside. if the call came, the dad would run in and get the kid?

also there is this:"The family says that teams and advisors were set to call Buttrey at the exact same time as the graduation rehearsal. With new collective bargaining agreement rules, he needed to be on the phone to get the information and negotiate from various teams, his father told WBTV.
But Mike Teevan, Senior Director of Public Relations for Major League Baseball, says the league has "no requirements that a player has to be available during the Draft."

although this is a pretty big deal, i also think the family is a bit full of themselves. pretty sure this isnt going to be a negotiation involving millions.

Steel Valley Football;1190744 wrote:Instead of mindlessly following written procedure, the school is ctually refusing to draw a line. The line being that students are allowed to break a graduation-requirement rule to attend a job interview (which is what this is) and having it appear the decision was based on salary. Because, if the school allows this, they must allow other students to miss practice for a job interview that was scheduled by the employer and still walk for graduation. It's pretty simple - I'm not sure why anyone would having trouble grasping that concept, not meaning you specifically; of course.

this. have fun with the law suit for when the school allows this kid to walk, but not little suzie when she has a mcdonald's interview.

Steel Valley Football;1190666 wrote:Here we go again. Rules are for everyone, including those who think they should be allowed to be the exception.

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Heretic;1190715 wrote:Hmmm. Get drafted; take money; call superintendent and say, "Since I grew up in your school system and you guys helped me get to where I am, I'm going to donate a large sum of money....oh wait, your HS principal's a big dick. Fuck all y'alls!"

My thought exactly when I read this. A kid at your high school is getting drafted and signed to a pro contract. That's just good publicity for your school. Why you would hinder that is beyond me...

Glory Days;1191058 wrote: this. have fun with the law suit for when the school allows this kid to walk, but not little suzie when she has a mcdonald's interview.

Apples to oranges. Schools are proud when their alumni become professional athletes. No school is going to celebrate because a graduate is going to be flipping burgers.





Rules have exceptions. What if this kid's dad was in a car wreck, and he missed the rehearsal because he was in the hospital with his parent? Would you guys that are gung ho about supporting the school still feel the same way? Yes, there are rules for a reason. But exceptions can, and should be, made in certain circumstances. I think this is one of those circumstances.

sherm03;1191121 wrote:Apples to oranges. Schools are proud when their alumni become professional athletes. No school is going to celebrate because a graduate is going to be flipping burgers.

You have missed the point completely and are entirely incorrect.

The school or school admins can not base a decision to enforce or not enforce a school rule based on social status or future income on case by case basis. That would be discrimination and could result in the school being sued.

sherm03;1191121 wrote:Rules have exceptions. What if this kid's dad was in a car wreck, and he missed the rehearsal because he was in the hospital with his parent? Would you guys that are gung ho about supporting the school still feel the same way? Yes, there are rules for a reason. But exceptions can, and should be, made in certain circumstances. I think this is one of those circumstances.

This reasoning is based on subjective opinion and not logic. The school does not want to play judge and draw the line dividing which circumstances allow for the rule exception to be made. Because that line could then be scrutinized by every taxpayer with an opinion, the media, the court system, etc.

sherm03;1191121 wrote: Rules have exceptions. What if this kid's dad was in a car wreck, and he missed the rehearsal because he was in the hospital with his parent? Would you guys that are gung ho about supporting the school still feel the same way? Yes, there are rules for a reason. But exceptions can, and should be, made in certain circumstances. I think this is one of those circumstances.

apples to oranges. based on what circumstances? the kid was under no obligation to be present for the phone call and he isnt going to be signing a major league million dollar contract.

what if that girl with the job interview with mcdonalds is actually on her way to MIT next fall?