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Jun 1, 2012 3:27 PM
Belly35;1186594 wrote:I have an iPad, getting better at using it and moving around to find stuff. It takes a little time to utilize all the potential it has, so far it has been working out great. I&#8217;m going to upgrade to a 64GB, I would not suggest a 16GB <o:p></o>
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I have to find a way to print from it via wireless printer connection. Which I'm looking into now for my options for a laser printer or color InkJet.
I have a wireless printer at home that has its own email address. All you have to do to print from an iPad or cell phone to this printer is email the document as an attachment with no subject and no text in the email.

It works pretty nice.
Jun 1, 2012 3:27pm
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gut

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Jun 1, 2012 3:33 PM
Jawbreaker;1186708 wrote:Guys, tablets aren't going away. The maturation of touch screen technology, low power chipsets, and internet access make tablets a form factor that will stay. Microsoft knows this or else they wouldn't be making an ARM based version of Windows.
100% correct. Even mid-tier laptops have more than enough power for 95% of users (unless you use power-intensive spreadsheets, powerpoint or video editing). You can get small ones with 12" screens that get good battery life (and not that expensive) that will run circles around tablets.

But tablets also aren't far away from being fully capable of replacing that. They aren't there yet - give it a year or two. You'll need a min. of 2 gigs of ram (maybe more like 4) with a dual-core 2.0ghz chipset. Then, you need a tablet version of Windows and Office. Then you'll have a detachable/BT keyboard so it's a tablet when you're doing mostly media and a laptop when you have to do work.
Jun 1, 2012 3:33pm
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jordo212000

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Jun 1, 2012 3:50 PM
Got an iPad. Love it
Jun 1, 2012 3:50pm
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Jun 1, 2012 3:55 PM
Automatik;1186731 wrote: For the money the Samsung tablets aren't bad. I like the smaller size. I've yet to mess with the new version.
I got the Galaxy Tab 2.0 7" for $250 8GB with 32GB additional memory card.

I use it a lot, I like it. I don't doubt the iPad is better, but I didn't want to spend that kind of money
Jun 1, 2012 3:55pm
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Jun 1, 2012 5:57 PM
The iPad isn't any better than your run of the mill tablet. The reason you get such positive feedback from iPad users is likely one of two reasons(or both). 1) The iPad is the only tablet you ever used, so you are comfortable with that tablet and have no basis for comparison. 2) You spent a huge chunk of change on the device, the last thing you are going to do is go around trashing it and since you paid so much money for it you aren't going to let it rot; so in order to justify an unneeded electronic toy you will use it. In all actuality, if you own a laptop that's been built in the past 5 years, you don't need any tablet, not now and not ever.
Jun 1, 2012 5:57pm
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Jun 1, 2012 6:36 PM
Sleeper, you're a cool guy. However, there is a difference between the iPad and other tablets.

There are certain Android phones that have caught up to the iPhone in terms of function, usability, and fluidity, but there are no other tablets that really come close to the iPad.

Reviews, users, and general consensus agree.
Jun 1, 2012 6:36pm
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Jun 1, 2012 6:54 PM
hoops23;1186888 wrote:Reviews, users, and general consensus agree.
BUT, tablets are not better than laptops.

Period.
Jun 1, 2012 6:54pm
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Jun 1, 2012 6:58 PM
dlazz;1186892 wrote:BUT, tablets are not better than laptops.

Period.
Agreed.
Jun 1, 2012 6:58pm
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Jun 1, 2012 8:03 PM
hoops23;1186888 wrote:Sleeper, you're a cool guy. However, there is a difference between the iPad and other tablets.

There are certain Android phones that have caught up to the iPhone in terms of function, usability, and fluidity, but there are no other tablets that really come close to the iPad.

Reviews, users, and general consensus agree.
He's just trolling. I've messed around with pretty much all of them. When considering the total package, none really come close to the iPad.

What about the new Sony S tablet? I'm interested to see how it competes. From first glances it looks solid, but so did the Blackberry playbook.
Jun 1, 2012 8:03pm
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Jun 1, 2012 8:24 PM
I've had the nook color and I wasn't a fan. Gave it away and bought an iPad
Jun 1, 2012 8:24pm
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Jun 1, 2012 8:48 PM
hoops23;1186888 wrote:Sleeper, you're a cool guy. However, there is a difference between the iPad and other tablets.

There are certain Android phones that have caught up to the iPhone in terms of function, usability, and fluidity, but there are no other tablets that really come close to the iPad.

Reviews, users, and general consensus agree.
And my post directly attacks said reviews, users, and general consensus.
Jun 1, 2012 8:48pm
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Jun 1, 2012 9:07 PM
sleeper;1186955 wrote:And my post directly attacks said reviews, users, and general consensus.
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Jun 1, 2012 9:07pm
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gut

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Jun 1, 2012 11:54 PM
Have an IPad2...barely use it. Only app on it that I really like is the WSJ, XFinity is pretty decent for catching up on some missed shows.

Functional use vs. a laptop is still very limited. Good for viewing content and that's pretty much it. People really would be still struggling to justify the need/purchase if Steve Jobs hadn't somehow convinced them they need it.
Jun 1, 2012 11:54pm
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Jun 2, 2012 12:07 AM
Automatik;1186926 wrote:He's just trolling. I've messed around with pretty much all of them. When considering the total package, none really come close to the iPad.

What about the new Sony S tablet? I'm interested to see how it competes. From first glances it looks solid, but so did the Blackberry playbook.
The Asus Prime is pretty neat, but I have heard that it has a lot of little annoyances.
Jun 2, 2012 12:07am
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Jun 2, 2012 2:06 AM
gut;1187063 wrote:Have an IPad2...barely use it. Only app on it that I really like is the WSJ, XFinity is pretty decent for catching up on some missed shows.

Functional use vs. a laptop is still very limited. Good for viewing content and that's pretty much it. People really would be still struggling to justify the need/purchase if Steve Jobs hadn't somehow convinced them they need it.
I don't "need" a tablet... I don't "need" a laptop... I don't "need" a TV...

However, I can comfortably afford said luxuries without worry. As one of the WOAT 2Chainz would say, "It's mine, I spend it"
Jun 2, 2012 2:06am
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gut

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Jun 2, 2012 1:31 PM
hoops23;1187082 wrote:I don't "need" a tablet... I don't "need" a laptop... I don't "need" a TV...

However, I can comfortably afford said luxuries without worry. As one of the WOAT 2Chainz would say, "It's mine, I spend it"
I actually need a computer - went with a laptop. My IPad collects mostly dust and I wouldn't have it if work didn't pay for it. I could certainly afford one, but I would just be wasting my money. Most people can't - or shouldn't - afford to waste their money. The number of people living paycheck-to-paycheck buying these devices of limited utility is kind of sad, really.

A laptop, tv and stereo all have relatively specific functions/uses, and do it well. A tablet is a poor substitute for all 3.
Jun 2, 2012 1:31pm
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Jun 2, 2012 1:43 PM
gut;1187210 wrote:I actually need a computer - went with a laptop. My IPad collects mostly dust and I wouldn't have it if work didn't pay for it. I could certainly afford one, but I would just be wasting my money. Most people can't - or shouldn't - afford to waste their money. The number of people living paycheck-to-paycheck buying these devices of limited utility is kind of sad, really.

A laptop, tv and stereo all have relatively specific functions/uses, and do it well. A tablet is a poor substitute for all 3.
Paired with a keyboard case, the iPad is very functional. I've used it to type documents and emails. It's smaller than my laptop and more functional than a terrible netbook.

I use Netflix on it daily and there are actually some excellent games available as well.

Just because YOU as an individual do not find it useful doesn't mean others don't.

I also use it as my extensive photo and home movie catalog, especially with the iPhoto and iMovie apps.

Just recently, Codea released an app for the iPad that lets you develop full games. Cargobot was made using that app and it's one of the top free games in the app store. Diet Coda also released an iPad app for web development.

Depending on what you use a laptop for, the iPad could most certainly replace it. Obviously that statement does not hold true for serious power users, but for most everyone else it does.

The days are getting closer to tablets matching the efficiency of laptops.
Jun 2, 2012 1:43pm
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gut

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Jun 2, 2012 1:58 PM
No, tablets are close in efficiency to netbooks, not equivalently priced mid-tier laptops that are far more functional. I mean, if you want a small screen, they sell 10-12" laptops.

And LMAO, "when paired with a latop case"....so, in other words, you spent like $600+ for an underpowered, glorified netbook?

Yeah, games on the IPad are better. You could have stopped there. It's a toy.
Jun 2, 2012 1:58pm
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Jun 2, 2012 2:01 PM
gut;1187218 wrote:No, tablets are close in efficiency to netbooks, not equivalently priced mid-tier laptops that are far more functional. I mean, if you want a small screen, they sell 10-12" laptops.

And LMAO, "when paired with a latop case"....so, in other words, you spent like $600+ for an underpowered, glorified netbook?

Yeah, games on the IPad are better. You could have stopped there. It's a toy.
Not sure where you're getting the $600 price tag at. Spent $350 on the iPad 2 and something like 40 bucks for the keyboard case... I didn't mean to type "laptop case"...

I game on my laptop. Is that a toy because of it too? SMH.

And what do you use your laptop for? Unless it involves extensive graphics or something an iPad/higher end tablet would suffice for your needs.
Jun 2, 2012 2:01pm
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fan_from_texas

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Jun 3, 2012 9:08 PM
sleeper;1186623 wrote:Oh Jesus Christ. A laptop takes up about the same horizontal room as a laptop; let's be honest here, you want an iPad because they look cool. They are worthless for anything more than social proof for your friends that you have so much money that you can afford stupid useless ****.

And then if/when you lose your job, you'll cry to the government for help and bitch because you have no money due to no savings.

Only in America...

This.

Tablets have some uses, but dollar for dollar, they're underpowered compared to a laptop. If you want a status symbol that lets you watch movies, play games, and feel cool, go for it. But to argue that you need it for productivity purposes is a tough sell.

That said, I'll probably buy Mrs. FFT an ipad for Christmas just to show her friends that I'm cool and successful. And then it will sit unused like most of our other gadgets.
Jun 3, 2012 9:08pm
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gut

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Jun 3, 2012 10:35 PM
hoops23;1187220 wrote: And what do you use your laptop for? Unless it involves extensive graphics or something an iPad/higher end tablet would suffice for your needs.
Spreadsheets, PP, and databases. You know, work,...not games.

Plus, my laptop has a back button, among other things.
Jun 3, 2012 10:35pm
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Jun 3, 2012 10:41 PM
gut;1187864 wrote:Spreadsheets, PP, and databases. You know, work,...not games.

Plus, my laptop has a back button, among other things.
But you can do that on tablets as well.

And the iPad features a back arrow on anything that has a function for one.

I'm mainly just giving you shit, but your argument is still weak.
Jun 3, 2012 10:41pm
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gut

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Jun 3, 2012 10:52 PM
hoops23;1187878 wrote:But you can do that on tablets as well.

And the iPad features a back arrow on anything that has a function for one.

I'm mainly just giving you ****, but your argument is still weak.
The back arrow is a fail. I hate having to search for it - not exactly easy to go reaching for it in the top corner. It is honestly THE most annoying thing about the Ipad. I also find them uncomfortable to hold for extended periods, so you end-up propping them up with a stand/case to watch or browse for extended periods (I don't get watching a lot of movies on tablets - much less phones - anyway when a laptop/monitor is a much bigger screen). I mean, if you're going to use them like a laptop, what's the point of overpaying for underpowered?

And, no, I'm a power user. A tablet is a LONG way away from replacing my laptop. The Office compatible suite's are watered down at best, and even then the IPad simply lacks the horsepower to handle any PP or Excel file of any substance.

When they get more powerful, I might get something like the Asus Transformer. For browsing/games/e-books the current crop is pretty good, but they're only maybe a netbook replacement at this point.
Jun 3, 2012 10:52pm