bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jun 1, 2012 12:58am
So Sean Combs' son received a scholarship to play football at UCLA and someone brought up the argument that he shouldn't have accepted it and that he should return it. Mike Wilbon mentioned it tonight on PTI and of course made it into a racial topic. He basically said that if the kid of a rich white celebrity was offered a scholarship no one would say anything. I personally don't think that is the majority opinion of the country but that is just me. What say you?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 1, 2012 1:02am
SMFH. This has nothing to do with race. The kid earned the scholarship who cares if he's rich or poor.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jun 1, 2012 1:08am
Well obviously it wouldn't be bought up if he was white, because white people aren't good athletes.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 1, 2012 1:18am
reps.2kool4skool;1186414 wrote:Well obviously it wouldn't be bought up if he was white, because white people aren't good athletes.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jun 1, 2012 2:34am
It wasn't that much of an issue for Jordan's son at Illinois, who although didn't pan out (and isn't white) was still considered a legit recruit. How many schools in the BCS were actively recruiting Combs? He was a 2 star at best playing in a crappy Westchester County league (note to people that don't know, many suburban leagues outside of NYC are notorious for awful football). If his notoriety got him on the team, I can see how some would be a bit put off that not only is he on the team, he gets a schollie.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jun 1, 2012 2:43am
Need to edit the above, Jeffrey walked on to Illinois (no schollie) it was his younger brother Marcus that was the more renowned recruit.
goosebumps
Posts: 1,058
Jun 1, 2012 5:49am
According to Rivals He had 2 other BCS offers (Illinois and Virginia) plus 3 additional FBS offers. According to Scout he also had offers from Iowa and WVU.Manhattan Buckeye;1186418 wrote:It wasn't that much of an issue for Jordan's son at Illinois, who although didn't pan out (and isn't white) was still considered a legit recruit. How many schools in the BCS were actively recruiting Combs? He was a 2 star at best playing in a crappy Westchester County league (note to people that don't know, many suburban leagues outside of NYC are notorious for awful football). If his notoriety got him on the team, I can see how some would be a bit put off that not only is he on the team, he gets a schollie.
He had legit offers, so it doesn't look like his notoriety got him on the team.
I don't have a problem with him accepting the scholarship
And btw, there are hundreds of "2 star" athletes in the NFL.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jun 1, 2012 6:01am
I don't think Combs will be one of them - just looking at his profile on rivals.com I can't believe he has nearly the physical presence to be a starting CB. I know on thesabre.com (the UVA sports board) people were laughing at him being offered over better athletes in the Hampton Roads/Richmond schools.
That said, if UCLA wants to give him the schollie, fine by me. I don't see him ever being a meaningful athlete given his track record. If I'm wrong, I owe you an internet coke.
That said, if UCLA wants to give him the schollie, fine by me. I don't see him ever being a meaningful athlete given his track record. If I'm wrong, I owe you an internet coke.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 1, 2012 6:28am
If the kid earned the scholarship, he earned it. SMH at anyone QQing about it, because his father is rich. They need to GTFO.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jun 1, 2012 7:11am
Can't stand Wilbon or Kornheiser - they absolutely suck. He makes things about race 1) because he's black and 2) it gets people talking.
If he said "yeah he earned it big deal move on" he doesn't get the same attention. But fuck those two.
If he said "yeah he earned it big deal move on" he doesn't get the same attention. But fuck those two.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 1, 2012 7:24am
2kool4skool;1186414 wrote:Well obviously it wouldn't be bought up if he was white, because white people aren't good athletes.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jun 1, 2012 7:28am
I don't think race has anything to do with it. Did Peyton and Eli Manning accept full schollies? I don't know but I would assume the answer is yes - even though Dad could have paid their way. The issue is whether Combs deserved the offer, which should be a matter for UCLA fans only.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jun 1, 2012 7:36am
The kid earned it, deserves it, keep it. It shouldn't matter that his father is a mogul. Also, race should not have even come up here. Just another opportunity for Wilbon to make an issue out of nothing.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jun 1, 2012 7:58am
:thumbup:sleeper;1186413 wrote:SMFH. This has nothing to do with race. The kid earned the scholarship who cares if he's rich or poor.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 1, 2012 7:58am
Manhattan Buckeye;1186443 wrote:I don't think race has anything to do with it. Did Peyton and Eli Manning accept full schollies? I don't know but I would assume the answer is yes - even though Dad could have paid their way. The issue is whether Combs deserved the offer, which should be a matter for UCLA fans only.
Based on his other offers, he earned it. Also let's not kid ourselves. Even if he didn't earn it let's not act like he is the first non blue chip athlete that received a scholarship due to connections.
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Gblock
Jun 1, 2012 8:14am
why in the hell would they give him a scholarship because of his dad?..what would they gain by it? i would think given their record the last 5-10 years they cant afford to waste a scholarship on anyone.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 1, 2012 8:22am
If people have an issue with him, then I guess every school shoudl investigate every kid and thier parents earnings per year before handiong out scholarships. I'm sure there are plenty of kids who parents are very wealthy on scholarships, just their parents are as high profile. The kid earned it (so to speak with football skill, not academic) so everyone should shut up about it.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 1, 2012 8:28am
Commander of Awesome;1186480 wrote:If people have an issue with him, then I guess every school shoudl investigate every kid and thier parents earnings per year before handiong out scholarships. I'm sure there are plenty of kids who parents are very wealthy on scholarships, just their parents are as high profile. The kid earned it (so to speak with football skill, not academic) so everyone should shut up about it.
Yup. There are a lot of football players on scholarship that are the sons of former players and its never been an issue before. What is Golic saying about this? He has two sons on scholarship at ND and his daughter will be a freshman next year on a swimming scholarship.
I think this whole thing started because people from UCLA were saying the money should go to underprivileged kids. They probably don't have a great concept of how athletic scholarships work.
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MontyBrunswick
Jun 1, 2012 8:46am
The big point about this is being overlooked: Puffy is an asshat
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 1, 2012 8:56am
Not to mention there are more than plenty of kids who get accepted to schools, because of their parents, even though they had no business going to those schools.karen lotz;1186485 wrote:Yup. There are a lot of football players on scholarship that are the sons of former players and its never been an issue before. What is Golic saying about this? He has two sons on scholarship at ND and his daughter will be a freshman next year on a swimming scholarship.
I think this whole thing started because people from UCLA were saying the money should go to underprivileged kids. They probably don't have a great concept of how athletic scholarships work.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 1, 2012 8:57am
[video=youtube;KJAgGB7jKZU][/video]dlazz;1186496 wrote:The big point about this is being overlooked: Puffy is an asshat
Disagree.
BORIStheCrusher
Posts: 1,893
Jun 1, 2012 9:18am
UCLA can most likely get that back plus a lot more if Ditty make contributions to the school since his son is playing there.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 1, 2012 9:34am
I agree with most on here. He earned it. Non-issue. People just like to bitch and moan.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 1, 2012 9:42am
Sounds familiar...justincredible;1186522 wrote:I agree with most on here. He earned it. Non-issue. People just like to bitch and moan.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jun 1, 2012 9:44am
I think you're about the only one. PTI is the best show on ESPN. Top 3 at worst.Raw Dawgin' it;1186437 wrote:Can't stand Wilbon or Kornheiser - they absolutely suck. He makes things about race 1) because he's black and 2) it gets people talking.
If he said "yeah he earned it big deal move on" he doesn't get the same attention. But fuck those two.