hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
May 23, 2012 9:55pm
Who say's you have a right to enjoy an establishment?WebFire;1180162 wrote:If it directly affected my health and my right to enjoy the establishment? Yes.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 23, 2012 9:57pm
I knew that would be the response. I think anyone who is open and serves the public should be treated like a public place. Otherwise, make it a private establishment.pnhasbeen;1180167 wrote:Who say's you have a right to enjoy an establishment?
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
May 23, 2012 10:00pm
A private establishment? Meaning a members only club? Or how about a public establishment that has certain procedures that keep some of the public away?WebFire;1180175 wrote:I knew that would be the response. I think anyone who is open and serves the public should be treated like a public place. Otherwise, make it a private establishment.
You have the right to go to an establishment I own, but that doesn't mean I have to make sure you enjoy your stay. If you don't like it, don't come back. Free market.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 23, 2012 10:02pm
I'd be fine with that if we weren't talking about health issues. Passing a law to ensure good waitress service would be retarded.pnhasbeen;1180183 wrote:A private establishment? Meaning a members only club? Or how about a public establishment that has certain procedures that keep some of the public away?
You have the right to go to an establishment I own, but that doesn't mean I have to make sure you enjoy your stay. If you don't like it, don't come back. Free market.
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Sonofanump
May 23, 2012 10:09pm
So the employees have no rights?pnhasbeen;1180165 wrote:that's reasonable. But as long as the smoke isn't near the cooking and there are sections, like most restaurants used to do, I don't think it should matter.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
May 23, 2012 10:12pm
Who says you have to work in a smoking environment? I'm okay with not allowing smoking in restaurants/bars as long as it is decided by the free market.Sonofanump;1180219 wrote:So the employees have no rights?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 23, 2012 10:16pm
Well it was decided by vote. That's close enough for me.pnhasbeen;1180225 wrote:Who says you have to work in a smoking environment? I'm okay with not allowing smoking in restaurants/bars as long as it is decided by the free market.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
May 23, 2012 10:19pm
touche'WebFire;1180232 wrote:Well it was decided by vote. That's close enough for me.
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Sonofanump
May 23, 2012 10:20pm
I guess you could sit at home on your ass and collect from the government or die a slow death from cancer poison from second hand smoke. Sounds reasonable enough in today's socialist society.pnhasbeen;1180225 wrote:Who says you have to work in a smoking environment? I'm okay with not allowing smoking in restaurants/bars as long as it is decided by the free market.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
May 23, 2012 10:21pm
Let's have the government control every aspect of our lives. That's better. We shouldn't fuck because we could breed murderers.Sonofanump;1180245 wrote:I guess you could sit at home on your ass and collect from the government or die a slow death from cancer poison from second hand smoke. Sounds reasonable enough in today's socialist society.
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Sonofanump
May 23, 2012 10:26pm
Where did we go from protecting us from cancerous poison to eugenics? I guess I find no logic in that comparison. </SPAN>
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
May 23, 2012 10:36pm
I don't need or want protection. If I want to go to a restaurant and eat with smoke in the air, I should be allowed to be that dumb.Sonofanump;1180257 wrote:Where did we go from protecting us from cancerous poison to eugenics? I guess I find no logic in that comparison.
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mella
Posts: 647
May 23, 2012 10:40pm
totally agree, that's why I directed it at smokers. I had an aunt die from lung cancer and her sister was so upset that she smoked all the way to the cemetary in the same car with my uncle. My uncle was really pissed off and it almost caused a huge scene at the burial.Fab1b;1179920 wrote:Lung cancer is not just caused by smoking. People get lung cancer that never smoked in their life and I am not defending I hate cig
smoke!!
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Sonofanump
May 23, 2012 10:40pm
I see that this is going nowhere. Have a good night.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
May 23, 2012 10:43pm
Cigarette smoking is one thing I just never understood. Are there any smokers here?
Early Cuyler
Posts: 1,097
May 23, 2012 11:33pm
Chew > Cigarettes
#realtalk
#realtalk
martyirish
Posts: 490
May 24, 2012 9:39am
this was a good SMART decision
Big_Mirg_ZHS
Posts: 2,079
May 24, 2012 12:02pm
Let's continue to treat us as second class citizens. That's real nice of ya supreme court.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 24, 2012 12:10pm
That's like begging Isadore to come here. Don't do that.Sonofanump;1180245 wrote:I guess you could sit at home on your ass and collect from the government or die a slow death from cancer poison from second hand smoke. Sounds reasonable enough in today's socialist society.
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Gblock
May 24, 2012 12:38pm
there are plenty of bars that just plain dont respect this law especially in smaller towns
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
May 24, 2012 12:44pm
This is true that a lot of bars don't enforce this law, so the smokers can go to those bars. Nobody is forcing them to go to the ones that enforce it.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 24, 2012 1:04pm
Big_Mirg_ZHS;1180577 wrote:Let's continue to treat us as second class citizens. That's real nice of ya supreme court.
Big_Mirg_ZHS
Posts: 2,079
May 24, 2012 1:25pm
Whats so confusing??vball10set;1180647 wrote:
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
May 24, 2012 1:28pm
Hallelujah!dlazz;1179823 wrote:http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/05/23/smoke-free-workplace-act-is-constitutional.html
The high court’s 7-0 decision affirmed a ruling by the Franklin County Court of Appeals upholding the Ohio Smoke Free Workplace Act, approved by Ohio voters in 2006.
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
May 24, 2012 1:35pm
Leave your fairy tale gods out of this.Scarlet_Buckeye;1180723 wrote:Hallelujah!
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