Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Dec 17, 2009 2:12pm
^Yes. The turnovers hurt, but they can be worked on.
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buckeyes_woowee
Posts: 512
Dec 17, 2009 2:38pm
If he wants to play QB he went to the wrong place
Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Dec 17, 2009 2:41pm
^Why? Tell me who else behind Pryor is proven at all??
*crickets*
*crickets*
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Dec 17, 2009 3:02pm
If he proves himself in camp he could instantly be the #2 QB for OSU and one play away from being the starting QB for OSU.buckeyes_woowee wrote: If he wants to play QB he went to the wrong place
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0311sdp
Posts: 580
Dec 17, 2009 3:25pm
I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Dec 17, 2009 3:38pm
Kenny Guiton is a pretty talented guy but has a lot of things working against him, such as arm strength.0311sdp wrote: I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
I love that he's from Texas and played at a big Texas HS program. I do think he can earn a starting job eventually, but Reed has way more upside.
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0311sdp
Posts: 580
Dec 17, 2009 3:47pm
Where does Graham fit in, he is OSU's top QB recruit. Everyone can't play. I think that they will redshirt both Reed and Graham then as redshirt sophomores they will battle for the starting job (unless next year they sign a really big time kid) Pryor will definitely be there for 2 more seasons. I don't see him ever being great but I also don't see any of these guys beating him out or forcing him to a new position.charliehustle14 wrote:Kenny Guiton is a pretty talented guy but has a lot of things working against him, such as arm strength.0311sdp wrote: I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
I love that he's from Texas and played at a big Texas HS program. I do think he can earn a starting job eventually, but Reed has way more upside.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Dec 17, 2009 4:13pm
Graham was injured most of the year and will have a lot to prove coming into OSU. Reed is more athletic and the way our offense is being ran, he fits the mold better than Graham.0311sdp wrote:Where does Graham fit in, he is OSU's top QB recruit. Everyone can't play. I think that they will redshirt both Reed and Graham then as redshirt sophomores they will battle for the starting job (unless next year they sign a really big time kid) Pryor will definitely be there for 2 more seasons. I don't see him ever being great but I also don't see any of these guys beating him out or forcing him to a new position.charliehustle14 wrote:Kenny Guiton is a pretty talented guy but has a lot of things working against him, such as arm strength.0311sdp wrote: I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
I love that he's from Texas and played at a big Texas HS program. I do think he can earn a starting job eventually, but Reed has way more upside.
OSU is in the running for two pretty damn good QB's next season in Miller and Jones.
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Dec 17, 2009 4:14pm
I really don't know about Graham. He was basically an unknown until he hit the camp circuits and started to impress some big time programs. He also has a history of injuries. With Pryor being a true sophomore who will probably stay all 4 years, there is definitely going to be a log jam at QB...especially if we get Brax Miller next year.0311sdp wrote:Where does Graham fit in, he is OSU's top QB recruit. Everyone can't play. I think that they will redshirt both Reed and Graham then as redshirt sophomores they will battle for the starting job (unless next year they sign a really big time kid) Pryor will definitely be there for 2 more seasons. I don't see him ever being great but I also don't see any of these guys beating him out or forcing him to a new position.charliehustle14 wrote:Kenny Guiton is a pretty talented guy but has a lot of things working against him, such as arm strength.0311sdp wrote: I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
I love that he's from Texas and played at a big Texas HS program. I do think he can earn a starting job eventually, but Reed has way more upside.
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Dec 17, 2009 4:26pm
I think Graham will get the 'Boeckman' treatment. Graham is an extremely smart kid (4.8 GPA/ 27 ACT) who has some pretty complex majors in front of him that will go beyond 4 years. So it wouldn't surprise me to see him gray shirted and red shirted because he's going to be in school that long anyway. That way, those additional 2 years will allow him to build himself up physically which will go a very long way in preventing further injuries that have plagued him basically his entire career. And of course, those 2 additional years will allow him to fully understand the system and what not.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 17, 2009 7:45pm
What exactly is that mold? It seems to change weekly.devil1197 wrote:Graham was injured most of the year and will have a lot to prove coming into OSU. Reed is more athletic and the way our offense is being ran, he fits the mold better than Graham.0311sdp wrote:Where does Graham fit in, he is OSU's top QB recruit. Everyone can't play. I think that they will redshirt both Reed and Graham then as redshirt sophomores they will battle for the starting job (unless next year they sign a really big time kid) Pryor will definitely be there for 2 more seasons. I don't see him ever being great but I also don't see any of these guys beating him out or forcing him to a new position.charliehustle14 wrote:Kenny Guiton is a pretty talented guy but has a lot of things working against him, such as arm strength.0311sdp wrote: I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
I love that he's from Texas and played at a big Texas HS program. I do think he can earn a starting job eventually, but Reed has way more upside.
OSU is in the running for two pretty damn good QB's next season in Miller and Jones.
Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Dec 18, 2009 12:45am
How the hell do you get a 4.8 GPA?? Are they on a 5.0 grading scale?charliehustle14 wrote: I think Graham will get the 'Boeckman' treatment. Graham is an extremely smart kid (4.8 GPA/ 27 ACT) who has some pretty complex majors in front of him that will go beyond 4 years. So it wouldn't surprise me to see him gray shirted and red shirted because he's going to be in school that long anyway. That way, those additional 2 years will allow him to build himself up physically which will go a very long way in preventing further injuries that have plagued him basically his entire career. And of course, those 2 additional years will allow him to fully understand the system and what not.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 18, 2009 12:47am
^Yeah, AP courses. I figured most schools had that...
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Dec 18, 2009 1:46am
Yes, 5.0 scale. Weighted AP classes. This is pretty common now a days.Red_Skin_Pride wrote:How the hell do you get a 4.8 GPA?? Are they on a 5.0 grading scale?charliehustle14 wrote: I think Graham will get the 'Boeckman' treatment. Graham is an extremely smart kid (4.8 GPA/ 27 ACT) who has some pretty complex majors in front of him that will go beyond 4 years. So it wouldn't surprise me to see him gray shirted and red shirted because he's going to be in school that long anyway. That way, those additional 2 years will allow him to build himself up physically which will go a very long way in preventing further injuries that have plagued him basically his entire career. And of course, those 2 additional years will allow him to fully understand the system and what not.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 18, 2009 7:55am
GPA doesn't show how smart you are, just how much you care about your grades IMO. ACT will show how smart you really are. 27 isn't a bad score, probably will be one of the higher ones on the team. He still has to avoid getting hurt and needs as many reps as possible, but it will be quite the fight for starting QB after Pryor leaves.
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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Dec 18, 2009 10:51am
27 is very impressive, especially for his first time taking it. He's supposed to take it again so we'll see how that goes.OneBuckeye wrote: GPA doesn't show how smart you are, just how much you care about your grades IMO. ACT will show how smart you really are. 27 isn't a bad score, probably will be one of the higher ones on the team. He still has to avoid getting hurt and needs as many reps as possible, but it will be quite the fight for starting QB after Pryor leaves.
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captvern
Posts: 833
Dec 18, 2009 3:45pm
I just don't see him playing quarterback. He will make a fine saftey tho. The bucks should be loaded with 5 star players wanting to get to the next level. I really feel JT cant figure what way he wants to go,3 yards and a cloud of dust or 5 wide and let the good times roll. Now I understand that there has been a ton of 5 star can't miss playeres that never developed and a lot of 2 and 3 star players go to the NFL but as a whole its the guidlines that they use today. I really like Verlon and think he will be a starter at saftey.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Dec 18, 2009 11:29pm
Bauserman transfer??? LOLOLOL He could give a shat about playing. He's 24, he played minor league baseball for 4 years and flunked out. He might be the only player to sign with Ohio State that has ZERO dreams about playing in the NFL. The ONLY thing he cares about is getting his education paid for and having the best seat in the house to watch Ohio State football games.0311sdp wrote: I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Dec 18, 2009 11:51pm
"The way our offense is being run."??? THINK ABOUT IT. Ohio State has 2 BIG tailbacks coming in next year. Carlos Hyde 6-1 230 and Roderick Smith 6-3 220. After Pryor, "They way our offense is being run", will be like when Beanie was in the backfield.devil1197 wrote:Graham was injured most of the year and will have a lot to prove coming into OSU. Reed is more athletic and the way our offense is being ran, he fits the mold better than Graham.0311sdp wrote:Where does Graham fit in, he is OSU's top QB recruit. Everyone can't play. I think that they will redshirt both Reed and Graham then as redshirt sophomores they will battle for the starting job (unless next year they sign a really big time kid) Pryor will definitely be there for 2 more seasons. I don't see him ever being great but I also don't see any of these guys beating him out or forcing him to a new position.charliehustle14 wrote:Kenny Guiton is a pretty talented guy but has a lot of things working against him, such as arm strength.0311sdp wrote: I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
I love that he's from Texas and played at a big Texas HS program. I do think he can earn a starting job eventually, but Reed has way more upside.
OSU is in the running for two pretty damn good QB's next season in Miller and Jones.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Dec 19, 2009 12:51am
Unless something incredible happens in training camp, those two players will not see the field and one could be red shirted.Big Gain wrote:"The way our offense is being run."??? THINK ABOUT IT. Ohio State has 2 BIG tailbacks coming in next year. Carlos Hyde 6-1 230 and Roderick Smith 6-3 220. After Pryor, "They way our offense is being run", will be like when Beanie was in the backfield.devil1197 wrote:Graham was injured most of the year and will have a lot to prove coming into OSU. Reed is more athletic and the way our offense is being ran, he fits the mold better than Graham.0311sdp wrote:Where does Graham fit in, he is OSU's top QB recruit. Everyone can't play. I think that they will redshirt both Reed and Graham then as redshirt sophomores they will battle for the starting job (unless next year they sign a really big time kid) Pryor will definitely be there for 2 more seasons. I don't see him ever being great but I also don't see any of these guys beating him out or forcing him to a new position.charliehustle14 wrote:Kenny Guiton is a pretty talented guy but has a lot of things working against him, such as arm strength.0311sdp wrote: I think Reed will be no higher than #3 unless the Bucks redshirt Graham. Bauserman should tranfer if he ever wants to play any college football because he is going to be buried behind younger more talented kids. What about the QB the bucks redshirted this year, where does he fit in? There are a lot more questions than answers when it comes to Ohio State's quarterbacking situation.
I love that he's from Texas and played at a big Texas HS program. I do think he can earn a starting job eventually, but Reed has way more upside.
OSU is in the running for two pretty damn good QB's next season in Miller and Jones.
OSU will continue with the read option look next seasonthat has been successful the last stretch of the season. Running that type of offense will need an athletic QB like Pryor as there must be some threat of a tuck and run. Saine and Herron will both be back along with Hall and Berry. So unless Hyde and Smith come into OSU and take PT away from starters which is highly unlikely.