hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 21, 2012 7:16am
Dan Gilbert owns the Cavs, the Monsters, and the Gladiators. Oh, and the Canton Charge.
He's obviously committed to the community and he's done more for the city as an owner than any previous owner I can remember.
He's also put his money where his mouth is. Cleveland appreciates Gilbert and it shows.
He's obviously committed to the community and he's done more for the city as an owner than any previous owner I can remember.
He's also put his money where his mouth is. Cleveland appreciates Gilbert and it shows.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 21, 2012 7:27am
jordo212000;1177275 wrote:The Cavs were trending upwards when Gilbert bought them. They already had Lebron.
Where the hell did I say anything about the team when he bought them.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 21, 2012 7:51am
lol I was wondering the same thing. No idea what he is even responding to.wildcats20;1177279 wrote:Where the hell did I say anything about the team when he bought them.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 21, 2012 8:17am
Translation (Jordo to english): Gilbert just bought the team because they were good, he didn't actually care about them or the city, just saw the extra opportunity to make an extra buck.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 21, 2012 8:20am
SportsAndLady;1177302 wrote:Translation (Jordo to english): Gilbert just bought the team because they were good, he didn't actually care about them or the city, just saw the extra opportunity to make an extra buck.
Pretty much spot on, except you forgot the "haha" at the beginning of the post.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 21, 2012 8:23am
I'm not even talking about when he bought the team.
Which is why I said WILL HAVE. As in the future.
Which is why I said WILL HAVE. As in the future.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
May 21, 2012 8:46am
wes_mantooth;1177223 wrote:Yeah, and Cuban spending without a cap unlike the NBA....lol, that would be crazy.
He spends like there is no salary cap anyway since it's a soft one lol (unless that changed in the new CBA?)
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 21, 2012 9:31am
I actually think both sides of this argument have merit (those who think it's pathetic fans aren't showing up and those who justify not showing up), but I will say it's bullsh*t the way ownership has handled this team. You can't expect to win fans over when you trade away the guys they did, but I'm torn about how much effect I think that it should have on attendance.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 21, 2012 9:36am
Ownership has never influenced my decision to go to a game or not.
I don't care who owns the team. I either like the product or I don't. I enjoy the current team and I go when I want to.
I don't care who owns the team. I either like the product or I don't. I enjoy the current team and I go when I want to.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
May 21, 2012 9:43am
Shane Ryan of Grantland.com wrote this today. Thought it was pretty funny.
Indians pitcher Chris Perez called out the home fans for their lack off attendance, saying, "It's just a slap in the face when you're in first place and last in attendance." Indians manager Manny Acta helped calm Perez down, reassuring him that the early numbers are just a fluke, and that soon they'll be last in both categories. "So cheer up," said Acta. "Let's all take a little break from the stress and go watch the river burn."
Indians pitcher Chris Perez called out the home fans for their lack off attendance, saying, "It's just a slap in the face when you're in first place and last in attendance." Indians manager Manny Acta helped calm Perez down, reassuring him that the early numbers are just a fluke, and that soon they'll be last in both categories. "So cheer up," said Acta. "Let's all take a little break from the stress and go watch the river burn."
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 21, 2012 9:51am
Yeah, a river burning joke is very original.TBone14;1177414 wrote:Shane Ryan of Grantland.com wrote this today. Thought it was pretty funny.
Indians pitcher Chris Perez called out the home fans for their lack off attendance, saying, "It's just a slap in the face when you're in first place and last in attendance." Indians manager Manny Acta helped calm Perez down, reassuring him that the early numbers are just a fluke, and that soon they'll be last in both categories. "So cheer up," said Acta. "Let's all take a little break from the stress and go watch the river burn."
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
May 21, 2012 9:55am
So Chris was scheduled to be on 92.3 at 12:20pm today.... and he/indians just cancled.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 21, 2012 9:57am
No shit. Didn't find any humor in that at all. Couldn't they have at least worked in a "mistake by the lake" reference? :rolleyes: (and that was a diss on the author, not you T-Bone14)like_that;1177418 wrote:Yeah, a river burning joke is very original.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 21, 2012 9:59am
After that, they can throw in a "if it's brown flush it down" reference. That's always very original.BR1986FB;1177424 wrote:No shit. Didn't find any humor in that at all. Couldn't they have at least worked in a "mistake by the lake" reference? :rolleyes: (and that was a diss on the author, not you T-Bone14)
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 21, 2012 10:01am
And then they can can the author's name to "Capone." LOLlike_that;1177426 wrote:After that, they can throw in a "if it's brown flush it down" reference. That's always very original.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 21, 2012 11:57am
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 21, 2012 12:02pm
reps to lofton.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 21, 2012 12:21pm
female genitalia/cat reference :thumbdown:OneBuckeye;1177423 wrote:So Chris was scheduled to be on 92.3 at 12:20pm today.... and he/indians just cancled.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
May 21, 2012 12:50pm
Commander of Awesome;1177602 wrote:reps to lofton.
But like the article said, look at when Lofton played here by and large. It's easy for him to say.
Perez is still a dumbass, but Lofton (mostly) had sellouts every damn day and Jacobs still owned the team
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 21, 2012 6:15pm
But like Lofton said, just win and stop disappointing the fans.ts1227;1177636 wrote:But like the article said, look at when Lofton played here by and large. It's easy for him to say.
Perez is still a dumbass, but Lofton (mostly) had sellouts every damn day and Jacobs still owned the team
There is no denying that the Cleveland fans despise Dolan. The best way to win them back is to actually show you're committed to winning.
Not many people trust this years team and they don't trust in the plan moving forward.
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
May 21, 2012 6:44pm
Do the Indians even have any young players that could eventually be stars? Choo is a bit old to become anything more than what he is, which is very good. Maybe Santana? I don't follow the Indians as much as I used to so I'm genuinely curious. Is there ANYONE in the minors that is making people circle a certain future year on their calandar?
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
May 21, 2012 6:45pm
I agree with that, but can understand why a guy on the team like Perez would be pissed. You're a guy who's been with a team for a couple years and aren't getting much fan support even though you're winning right now. While a good part of the reality of the situation is that fans are pissed at ownership and don't want to support a franchise that isn't showing the desire to regularly compete; I doubt things like that matter to players on the team unless said player has been with the team for a long time and knows first-hand why fans are pissed. Probably for a guy like Perez who's only been there a couple years, the reaction to the Dolan hate is more like, "Okay...but we're fucking leading the division, so what the fuck?!?!"hoops23;1177901 wrote:But like Lofton said, just win and stop disappointing the fans.
There is no denying that the Cleveland fans despise Dolan. The best way to win them back is to actually show you're committed to winning.
Not many people trust this years team and they don't trust in the plan moving forward.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 21, 2012 6:51pm
Was probably mentioned but this is pretty easy for a guy like Perez to say. With his contract he's pretty much sheltered from the economy where the "Average Every Day Joe" might not be able to afford to take the kids to the ballpark.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 21, 2012 6:53pm
Asdrubal is probably considered a star at SS. Hits for good power, average, and has a flashy glove.Mooney44Cards;1177910 wrote:Do the Indians even have any young players that could eventually be stars? Choo is a bit old to become anything more than what he is, which is very good. Maybe Santana? I don't follow the Indians as much as I used to so I'm genuinely curious. Is there ANYONE in the minors that is making people circle a certain future year on their calandar?
Santana has a ton of potential though. His OBP (last I looked) was amazing and his ability to draw walks is uncanny. He needs to bring the average up a bit, though I'm not a stickler for BA's as I think it's a bit overrated in terms of judging a hitter.
Then you have Jason Kipnis who will likely be a star 2B.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 21, 2012 7:09pm
The marketing is terrible down here. You have a good product? Advertise it. A few blurbs from Johnny Wharf on 100.9 will not get it done.Commander of Awesome;1177086 wrote:A better argument would be Marietta College Baseball team. Despite winning the Div III record 5th College World Series Championship, no one goes to the game. I'm not sure why, they have a great program there and tons of up and coming talent. Their football team isn't nearly as good or marketable, infact they didn't even the Div III championship game last season yet tons of students still go in larger numbers than the students/Alumni that go the baseball games.