Drivers will see red arrows on left turns

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sportchampps
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May 8, 2012 11:33pm
As long as they don't get any more red light cameras that send money out of Ohio and to arizona
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sherm03
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May 8, 2012 11:35pm
The only thing that I don't like about this is that the federal government is forcing local governments into spending money they don't have. There have been a lot of times that I've been in a left-turn lane with a red light, while the other lane going straight has a green light...oncoming traffic has a green light but there are no cars approaching...and have had people laying on the horn behind me and pulling into the right lane and turning left in front of me because I wasn't moving. People are stupid. I'm not even sure if this will solve that problem, though.
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ManO'War
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May 8, 2012 11:37pm
LED's are terrible.

Everywhere that I've seen them they have a bunch of the individual lights burned out.
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Sykotyk
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May 9, 2012 12:28am
ts1227;1165821 wrote:I think the turn arrow cycles to flashing yellow when both directions have green lights. Then, it goes solid yellow, red along with the rest of the lights when it cycles.



Some intersections have left on green arrow only. The red arrow signifies you can't.

The problem with the Red circle compared to the red arrow is that the red circle signifies 'stop' entirely. Not just one way. No where in the vehicular code is there a 'light per lane' rule. So, a solid red means stop. And stop always trumps go. Just a blip in the rules that is finally being corrected. If there's three lanes (one left, on thru, and one thru-or-right-turn) and three lights, they're supposed to all work in tandem with eachother. There's a reason there's a green arrow instead of giving a third solid green for turns. Why? Because it signifies specifically just for the left turn lane.

It didn't always used to be that way. Hell, it took a long time before the left turn signal became a standard.
ManO'War;1165830 wrote:LED's are terrible.

Everywhere that I've seen them they have a bunch of the individual lights burned out.
Part of the beauty of LEDs. The diode has a long half-life. But, they also have a failure rate, just like a bulb (although much longer). The thing is, instead of one bulb out of one blowing, it's one diode out of 20+ going. If it's a regular bulb, a repair would need to be made immediately. At a much greater cost. One diode, or even a few, is inconsequential to the operation of the light. And it's a hell of a lot cheaper than incandescent bulbs. And the technology is improving. It won't be long until most roadway-related lights are switched to LEDs, including headlamps.
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WebFire
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May 9, 2012 1:19pm
Sykotyk;1165849 wrote:Some intersections have left on green arrow only. The red arrow signifies you can't.

The problem with the Red circle compared to the red arrow is that the red circle signifies 'stop' entirely. Not just one way. No where in the vehicular code is there a 'light per lane' rule. So, a solid red means stop. And stop always trumps go. Just a blip in the rules that is finally being corrected. If there's three lanes (one left, on thru, and one thru-or-right-turn) and three lights, they're supposed to all work in tandem with eachother. There's a reason there's a green arrow instead of giving a third solid green for turns. Why? Because it signifies specifically just for the left turn lane.

It didn't always used to be that way. Hell, it took a long time before the left turn signal became a standard.
Yet somehow we managed.
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WebFire
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May 9, 2012 1:20pm
sherm03;1165827 wrote:The only thing that I don't like about this is that the federal government is forcing local governments into spending money they don't have. There have been a lot of times that I've been in a left-turn lane with a red light, while the other lane going straight has a green light...oncoming traffic has a green light but there are no cars approaching...and have had people laying on the horn behind me and pulling into the right lane and turning left in front of me because I wasn't moving. People are stupid. I'm not even sure if this will solve that problem, though.
Never had it happen. Never seen it happen. Been driving for 20 years.
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justincredible
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May 9, 2012 1:26pm
WebFire;1165943 wrote:Never had it happen. Never seen it happen. Been driving for 20 years.
Same here. I've only been driving for 13 years, but I've yet to see anything like this.
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sherm03
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May 9, 2012 1:32pm
WebFire;1165943 wrote:Never had it happen. Never seen it happen. Been driving for 20 years.
justincredible;1165951 wrote:Same here. I've only been driving for 13 years, but I've yet to see anything like this.
Guess I'm just the lucky one. I would also venture to say that I'm in the car and on the road more often. I basically live in my car.
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hoops23
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May 9, 2012 3:18pm
We've had a couple of these in Sandusky for some time now.
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yobro08
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May 9, 2012 4:14pm
hell if its red in a turning lane here in columbus and theres no traffic i go everytime
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MontyBrunswick
May 9, 2012 5:34pm
yobro08;1166133 wrote:hell if its red in a turning lane here in columbus and theres no traffic i go everytime
That is illegal.
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ernest_t_bass
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May 9, 2012 5:43pm
dlazz;1166172 wrote:That is illegal.

Your mom's illegal.
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MontyBrunswick
May 9, 2012 5:54pm
ernest_t_bass;1166176 wrote:Your mom's illegal.
roasted
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ts1227
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May 9, 2012 6:01pm
yobro08;1166133 wrote:hell if its red in a turning lane here in columbus and theres no traffic i go everytime
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yobro08
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May 9, 2012 6:19pm
yea i like to be a toughbutt
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sherm03
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May 9, 2012 6:21pm
yobro08;1166187 wrote:yea i like to be a toughbutt
Tough guys don't refer to themselves as a "toughbutt."
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ernest_t_bass
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May 9, 2012 6:22pm
sherm03;1166191 wrote:Tough guys don't refer to themselves as a "toughbutt."

This guys a comedian over here.
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friendfromlowry
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May 9, 2012 6:31pm
SportsAndLady;1165820 wrote:One of the few things I liked about that place..don't pump your own gas is another good one
Lol, yeah all old women hate pumping their own gas.
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WebFire
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May 9, 2012 7:21pm
yobro08;1166133 wrote:hell if its red in a turning lane here in columbus and theres no traffic i go everytime
Do you do it outside of Columbus?
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Sykotyk
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May 9, 2012 8:04pm
friendfromlowry;1166201 wrote:Lol, yeah all old women hate pumping their own gas.
Only Oregon and New Jersey require non-commercial pumps to be attended by gas jockeys to pump the gas.
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sherm03
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May 9, 2012 8:23pm
ernest_t_bass;1166193 wrote:This guys a comedian over here.
Thank you for remembering.