Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
May 6, 2012 12:55am
Like Dana White has any fucking right to call someone else greedyrobj55;1163564 wrote:Bob Arum is a fat greedy pig, just like Dana White said. Boxing is corrupt, they are very close to having big fights in the future and being inept.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
May 6, 2012 12:55am
PBF is a great fighter, but lets not act like he isn't scared of Paq. PBF's excuse about having to ensure his health for his families sake is hilarious!!
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 6, 2012 12:55am
A hometown fight for PBF would be DetroitTy Webb;1163570 wrote:Why the **** should Mayweather be the only one who decides on the date an venue?? Is he god?? There are three venues that would even work for this fight: Cowboys Stadium,Louisiana Superdome,and the Georgia Dome. A venue like MGM Grand would not be able to accomadate the crowd for this fight
Besides...Mayweather hasn't fought outside of LV since 2005. Manny would be ****ing stupid to agree to what would be a hometown fight for Floyd
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 6, 2012 12:56am
lol, what are you talking about? He's P4P the best boxer in the world...robj55;1163569 wrote:People need to stop with this Floyd Mayweather is the best fighter on the planet stuff. He is an amazing boxer, but he is not the baddest man on the planet, that's silly.
I don't think people are comparing him to Jon Jones?
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
May 6, 2012 12:56am
was the fight not at mgm grand tonight? were there not "cotto, cotto, cotto" chants?Ty Webb;1163570 wrote:Why the **** should Mayweather be the only one who decides on the date an venue?? Is he god?? There are three venues that would even work for this fight: Cowboys Stadium,Louisiana Superdome,and the Georgia Dome. A venue like MGM Grand would not be able to accomadate the crowd for this fight
Besides...Mayweather hasn't fought outside of LV since 2005. Manny would be ****ing stupid to agree to what would be a hometown fight for Floyd
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
May 6, 2012 12:56am
I trust Bert Sugar,who was only the most knowledgeable and respected boxing person in historyHb31187;1163561 wrote:Of course not, you'll go find someone Pro-Manny and try to justify them as being correct
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
May 6, 2012 12:57am
I think there's underlying reasons why the fight won't happen that nobody wants to talk about.
I've said it before, but look at this way...the only story line that keeps boxing (somewhat) relevant is "when will Pac and PBF fight?" If the fight happens...there is no more story line for boxing to cling to in order and the sport slips even further into obscurity. Basically, a PBF/Pac fight will end the sport, IMO. And nobody wants that to happen. So they take turns making the other look like they are ducking the fight so that the controversy can keep on keeping on and the sport can get some exposure. The fight won't happen because there will be no more "mega-fights" to look forward to afterwards and the casual fan will give up on boxing altogether.
I've said it before, but look at this way...the only story line that keeps boxing (somewhat) relevant is "when will Pac and PBF fight?" If the fight happens...there is no more story line for boxing to cling to in order and the sport slips even further into obscurity. Basically, a PBF/Pac fight will end the sport, IMO. And nobody wants that to happen. So they take turns making the other look like they are ducking the fight so that the controversy can keep on keeping on and the sport can get some exposure. The fight won't happen because there will be no more "mega-fights" to look forward to afterwards and the casual fan will give up on boxing altogether.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
May 6, 2012 12:57am
You do realize that he lives in Vegas now right??Hb31187;1163576 wrote:A hometown fight for PBF would be Detroit
Did you even understand the point I was trying to make?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 6, 2012 12:57am
Yeah they should say that then, because there are so many dudes out there that would beat him in a fight. He is one of the best boxers in the world no question though.Hb31187;1163573 wrote:Obviously they mean best boxer, which he def is.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 6, 2012 12:58am
they need to be specific, he is one of the best BOXERS in the world, not fightershoops23;1163577 wrote:lol, what are you talking about? He's P4P the best boxer in the world...
I don't think people are comparing him to Jon Jones?
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 6, 2012 12:58am
Thats obviously why hes a boxer? Lol nobodys trying to say hes a better all around fighter than MMA fightersrobj55;1163582 wrote:Yeah they should say that then, because there are so many dudes out there that would beat him in a fight. He is one of the best boxers in the world no question though.
Def has better hands than anyone in the UFC though, but obviously no ground game or anything along those lines
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 6, 2012 12:59am
Fact is, neither boxer is scared of the other. To think that is incredibly ignorant.
The politics are the reason the fight isn't happening. Bob Arum being the biggest.
The politics are the reason the fight isn't happening. Bob Arum being the biggest.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 6, 2012 12:59am
He developed a sport, promoters like Bob Arum killed one.Ty Webb;1163574 wrote:Like Dana White has any ****ing right to call someone else greedy
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
May 6, 2012 12:59am
You do make a good point sherm...sherm03;1163580 wrote:I think there's underlying reasons why the fight won't happen that nobody wants to talk about.
I've said it before, but look at this way...the only story line that keeps boxing (somewhat) relevant is "when will Pac and PBF fight?" If the fight happens...there is no more story line for boxing to cling to in order and the sport slips even further into obscurity. Basically, a PBF/Pac fight will end the sport, IMO. And nobody wants that to happen. So they take turns making the other look like they are ducking the fight so that the controversy can keep on keeping on and the sport can get some exposure. The fight won't happen because there will be no more "mega-fights" to look forward to afterwards and the casual fan will give up on boxing altogether.
I mean how many people could name the Heavyweight Champ without looking it up?
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 6, 2012 12:59am
I do realize the point you were attempting to make. Its still retarded.Ty Webb;1163581 wrote:You do realize that he lives in Vegas now right??
Did you even understand the point I was trying to make?
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
May 6, 2012 12:59am
Boxing stays more relevant with Pac and PBF not fighting. Right now, they have two major draws. If they fight, they have one major draw. Neither side wants to risk losing their cash-cow in a fight that could very easily go either way.
If there were more big PPV draws in boxing, there might be more incentive to make the fight, but there's not. These two are it.
If there were more big PPV draws in boxing, there might be more incentive to make the fight, but there's not. These two are it.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 6, 2012 1:00am
lol, exactly. PBF fights in Vegas because of the $$$ and Vegas IS boxing. However, he's rarely a crowd favorite.dazedconfused;1163578 wrote:was the fight not at mgm grand tonight? were there not "cotto, cotto, cotto" chants?
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
May 6, 2012 1:00am
And he must have taken the Don King class in fight promoting...because he has shorted and ripped off his fighters to do itrobj55;1163586 wrote:He developed a sport, promoters like Bob Arum killed one.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 6, 2012 1:01am
Yep, boxing is done, has been. They only have themselves to blame.sherm03;1163580 wrote:I think there's underlying reasons why the fight won't happen that nobody wants to talk about.
I've said it before, but look at this way...the only story line that keeps boxing (somewhat) relevant is "when will Pac and PBF fight?" If the fight happens...there is no more story line for boxing to cling to in order and the sport slips even further into obscurity. Basically, a PBF/Pac fight will end the sport, IMO. And nobody wants that to happen. So they take turns making the other look like they are ducking the fight so that the controversy can keep on keeping on and the sport can get some exposure. The fight won't happen because there will be no more "mega-fights" to look forward to afterwards and the casual fan will give up on boxing altogether.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
May 6, 2012 1:01am
You fuckers don't even get the point I was makinghoops23;1163590 wrote:lol, exactly. PBF fights in Vegas because of the $$$ and Vegas IS boxing. However, he's rarely a crowd favorite.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 6, 2012 1:02am
Well then he's not the baddest man on the planet, of the best fighter, that was my only point. Not trying to take anything from him, nothing he can control.Hb31187;1163584 wrote:Thats obviously why hes a boxer? Lol nobodys trying to say hes a better all around fighter than MMA fighters
Def has better hands than anyone in the UFC though, but obviously no ground game or anything along those lines
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 6, 2012 1:02am
Put PBF in the octagon, he loses. Put a MMA fighter in the ring against Floyd and he loses.robj55;1163583 wrote:they need to be specific, he is one of the best BOXERS in the world, not fighters
You're trying to pick a fight between MMA and boxing and nobody is even bringing anything like that up.
That's like picking beef against a baseball announcer because he called a baseball athlete the best player in the world... Would you hold beef with him over that in regards to comparing him to NFL or NBA players? lol.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 6, 2012 1:03am
Its apples to oranges. Like comparing a Marathon runner to Usain Bolt. Same general sport, completely different ways of competing and going about itrobj55;1163594 wrote:Well then he's not the baddest man on the planet, of the best fighter, that was my only point. Not trying to take anything from him, nothing he can control.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 6, 2012 1:03am
Nobody gives a fuck about the point you're making. PBF lives in Vegas, cool. It has nothing to do with a "hometown advantage."Ty Webb;1163593 wrote:You fuckers don't even get the point I was making
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
May 6, 2012 1:06am
Ok....keep thinking thathoops23;1163597 wrote:Nobody gives a fuck about the point your making. PBF lives in Vegas, cool. It has nothing to do with a "hometown advantage."