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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 2, 2012 3:27pm
I agree. I wasn't excusing the 4 day hold. Just that the comment didn't really make sense since speeding wouldn't have much affect on him.FatHobbit;1160123 wrote:Pot doesn't usually land you in a holding cell for four days with no food or water. Just sayin
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
May 2, 2012 3:27pm
justincredible;1160120 wrote:Wow, I can't believe people are fine with someone essentially being left in their cell to die for a non-violent crime. Hopefully no one you know or love is ever arrested for something minor and just left die.
Maybe all the bong water is clouding your judgement.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 2, 2012 3:27pm
I'm pretty sure there are probably laws on the books that don't allow for law enforcement to let people rot in a cell without food or water.WebFire;1160122 wrote:Whether you agree with a law or not, it is still a law until it is not.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 2, 2012 3:28pm
if you told me i had to go 4 days without water or food and then i could win a multi million dollar law suit against the gov't i'm game. Seriously, how do you get caught in a drug raid, you have to be pretty fucking stupid. Now he'll make out pretty well, no sympathy.justincredible;1160120 wrote:Wow, I can't believe people are fine with someone essentially being left in their cell to die for a non-violent crime. Hopefully no one you know or love is ever arrested for something minor and just left die.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
May 2, 2012 3:28pm
I agree with that, but the penalties must fit the crime. Just because he broke a law doesn't mean all bets are off.WebFire;1160122 wrote:Whether you agree with a law or not, it is still a law until it is not.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 2, 2012 3:28pm
Most likely.justincredible;1160127 wrote:I'm pretty sure there are probably laws on the books that don't allow for law enforcement to let people rot in a cell without food or water.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 2, 2012 3:28pm
Right. I wasn't addressing that part.FatHobbit;1160130 wrote:I agree with that, but the penalties must fit the crime. Just because he broke a law doesn't mean all bets are off.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 2, 2012 3:29pm
I'm glad my brother-in-law and his friend that were arrested the night of my bachelor party for public intox weren't left to die in their cell. According to a few on here it would've been justified, I guess.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
May 2, 2012 3:29pm
I agree with this. If he were more than a pot smoker most people wouldn't give a crap.Raw Dawgin' it;1160118 wrote:The the crime totally does matter - i think because people thing pot should be legal there is some outrage, if he were a dealer or gang muscle no one would care, IMO
Me too. But they still fucked up big time.Raw Dawgin' it;1160129 wrote:if you told me i had to go 4 days without water or food and then i could win a multi million dollar law suit against the gov't i'm game.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 2, 2012 3:30pm
LOL that's pretty funny.justincredible;1160133 wrote:I'm glad my brother-in-law and his friend that were arrested the night of my bachelor party for public intox weren't left to die in their cell. According to a few on here it would've been justified, I guess.
drunk in public < Smoking drugs and being caught in a drug raid.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
May 2, 2012 3:31pm
Agreed. however, this four day isolation wasn't his punishment, he wasn't sentenced to this. Someone locked him away and forgot about him. I think too many people are overthinking what really happened here.FatHobbit;1160130 wrote:I agree with that, but the penalties must fit the crime. Just because he broke a law doesn't mean all bets are off.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 2, 2012 3:31pm
"don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
So the time for smoking pot is in jail for 4 days with no food or water and being left to die? You guys are retarded if you think that.
So the time for smoking pot is in jail for 4 days with no food or water and being left to die? You guys are retarded if you think that.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 2, 2012 3:32pm
Nope, both offenses can land you in a cell.Raw Dawgin' it;1160135 wrote:LOL that's pretty funny.
drunk in public < Smoking drugs and being caught in a drug raid.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 2, 2012 3:32pm
You're right, it wasn't his punishment. It was negligence that was, apparently, okay.THE4RINGZ;1160137 wrote:Agreed. however, this four day isolation wasn't his punishment, he wasn't sentenced to this. Someone locked him away and forgot about him. I think too many people are overthinking what really happened here.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
May 2, 2012 3:33pm
Again, he wasn't sentenced to four days in jail.DeyDurkie5;1160139 wrote:"don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
So the time for smoking pot is in jail for 4 days with no food or water and being left to die? You guys are retarded if you think that.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 2, 2012 3:33pm
lol yeah just for pot...DeyDurkie5;1160139 wrote:"don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
So the time for smoking pot is in jail for 4 days with no food or water and being left to die? You guys are retarded if you think that.
Agents stormed in at 9 a.m. the next day and swept him up as one of nine suspects in a raid that netted 18,000 ecstasy pills, other drugs and weapons.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 2, 2012 3:34pm
THANK YOU...it's amazing that some people on here actually think that's all this kid was in jail for :rolleyes:FatHobbit;1160123 wrote:Pot doesn't usually land you in a holding cell for four days with no food or water. Just sayin
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
May 2, 2012 3:34pm
Some people are saying it was excessive because others are saying don't do the crime if you can't do the time.THE4RINGZ;1160137 wrote:Agreed. however, this four day isolation wasn't his punishment, he wasn't sentenced to this. Someone locked him away and forgot about him. I think too many people are overthinking what really happened here.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 2, 2012 3:34pm
Exactly. It's 100% the DEA's fault this happened. You/rawdawg were trying to argue otherwise. Which is just dumb.THE4RINGZ;1160143 wrote:Again, he wasn't sentenced to four days in jail.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 2, 2012 3:34pm
Felony > Misdemeanorjustincredible;1160140 wrote:Nope, both offenses can land you in a cell.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 2, 2012 3:35pm
Where does that say anything about him having ANY of that?
He wasn't charged with anything. He should have been released right away and he wasn't. Instead they "forgot" about him and let him sit in a cell for 4 days.
He wasn't charged with anything. He should have been released right away and he wasn't. Instead they "forgot" about him and let him sit in a cell for 4 days.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 2, 2012 3:35pm
Criminals still have basic rights, correct? Especially those who haven't been charged with anything. I'm not wrong on this, am I?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
May 2, 2012 3:36pm
Doesn't matter, both can land you in a cell which you can be forgot about and left for four days.Raw Dawgin' it;1160152 wrote:Felony > Misdemeanor
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 2, 2012 3:36pm
LOL he was in a house with 18,000 ecstasy pill and guns....wildcats20;1160153 wrote:Where does that say anything about him having ANY of that?
He wasn't charged with anything. He should have been released right away and he wasn't. Instead they "forgot" about him and let him sit in a cell for 4 days.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
May 2, 2012 3:36pm
The agents didn't charge him criminally and even told him they would drive him home, but apparently forgot about him in a holding cell, where he languished for days.
Doesn't sound like he was involved with more than pot.