sleeper;1158763 wrote:Why waste the effort?

Well, you could use some face-saving. I know you get that it's futile at this point tho.

sleeper;1158763 wrote:I can post every study in the world, it won't get through to a broken mind like yours who thinks journalism is a valuable degree or that sales is a desirable position or that OU is a school that anyone with a brain attends.

I'll settle for just one. One. It should take a brilliant mind like yours all of 5 minutes.

sleeper;1158763 wrote:All I can do is sit here and laugh at the ignorance that is displayed time and time again by those who think the above. Small minds are incapable of anything other than small acheivements; and there's not much smaller than graduating from OU with a journalism degree.

Cool. The rest of us are laughing at you. Still impressive that The Smartest Man on the Internetz still can't manage to turn on his browser spell check.

achievements*

FatHobbit;1158764 wrote:You're argument was that there are far more OU grads that are unemployed or underemployed.



This was your "proof".





I.e. you have no proof.

The proof doesn't exist. When no proof exists, you can use a proxy to provide a correlation with your claim.

I realize that is above your head, enjoy!

fish82;1158766 wrote:Well, you could use some face-saving. I know you get that it's futile at this point tho.




I'll settle for just one. One. It should take a brilliant mind like yours all of 5 minutes.



Cool. The rest of us are laughing at you. Still impressive that The Smartest Man on the Internetz still can't manage to turn on his browser spell check.

achievements*

I did. OU ranked #124. What a joke of a school enjoy!

Journalism, per your link, median salary = 32k LOL

What a joke. Enjoy!

sleeper;1158770 wrote:The proof doesn't exist. When no proof exists, you can use a proxy to provide a correlation with your claim.

I realize that is above your head, enjoy!

Can you do the same thing with god and religion?

FatHobbit;1158777 wrote:Can you do the same thing with god and religion?

Yes. I'd love to see your correlated evidence.

sleeper;1158778 wrote:Yes. I'd love to see your correlated evidence.

Did you have correlated evidence?

sleeper;1158771 wrote:I did. OU ranked #124. What a joke of a school enjoy!

Extremely poor deflect, even for someone as practiced as you. The request was for you to back your idiotic claim that most journalism majors end up in inside sales.

I know about 50 people who graduated from the Scripps School of Journalism and not a single one of them have a job in sales or even started in a sales position. I would say about half of them went into advertising as copywriters. There salaries do suck though I think most started somewhere between 24-30k. I know about 5-10 of them left the field all together and went into corporate retail with jobs like merchandising and logistics. I know most of them make between 45-70 k. I know 2 got jobs for ESPN behind the scenes and a few others who are news broadcasters in small cities. Journalism isn t usually a very high paying field but the best in the business can make wonderful money. Just look at how many OU graduates have went on to become big names in the journalism world. If you watch NBC ABC CBS ESPN or read SI Maxim and the New York Times you are reading or watching a few OU Graduates.

I graduated HS in 2002 right around the time OSU was raising admission standards and was accepted to both of their business schools. I choose OU because I wanted to be outside of the Columbus area. OSU is for sure the better school today in 90% of the programs but as long as a student chooses the right major and gets good grades there are good paying jobs out there.

FatHobbit;1158784 wrote:Did you have correlated evidence?

I don't see a need to provide correlated evidence to define common sense.

fish82;1158789 wrote:Extremely poor deflect, even for someone as practiced as you. The request was for you to back your idiotic claim that most journalism majors end up in inside sales.

What else are they going to do? Work for the almost extinct newspaper and magazine industry? LOL

sportchampps;1158812 wrote:I know about 50 people who graduated from the Scripps School of Journalism and not a single one of them have a job in sales or even started in a sales position. I would say about half of them went into advertising as copywriters. There salaries do suck though I think most started somewhere between 24-30k. I know about 5-10 of them left the field all together and went into corporate retail with jobs like merchandising and logistics. I know most of them make between 45-70 k. I know 2 got jobs for ESPN behind the scenes and a few others who are news broadcasters in small cities. Journalism isn t usually a very high paying field but the best in the business can make wonderful money. Just look at how many OU graduates have went on to become big names in the journalism world. If you watch NBC ABC CBS ESPN or read SI Maxim and the New York Times you are reading or watching a few OU Graduates.

I graduated HS in 2002 right around the time OSU was raising admission standards and was accepted to both of their business schools. I choose OU because I wanted to be outside of the Columbus area. OSU is for sure the better school today in 90% of the programs but as long as a student chooses the right major and gets good grades there are good paying jobs out there.

Yeah, sounds like you been fed bs too. OU is not a good school, no matter what their pamphlet says.

Also to attend Palmer Fest or Halloween you don't have to be invited all you have to do is drive down to Athens park and walk down the street.

sleeper;1158814 wrote:I don't see a need to provide correlated evidence to define common sense.

So you have no proof or evidence. Only assumptions.

FatHobbit;1158847 wrote:So you have no proof or evidence. Only assumptions.

I have common sense. You do realize the claim you making is that students with lower grades are more successful than student with higher grades? I find that outright hilarious.

sleeper;1158818 wrote:What else are they going to do? Work for the almost extinct newspaper and magazine industry? LOL

Wow...an even worse deflect. Since no source is forthcoming, let's move on. I think you've had enough on this particular point.


Next question:

If being #124 out of 4500 "sucks," at what rank does a college/university cease sucking? Is it safe to assume we can tell the alumni of UK, Louisville, DePaul, Seton Hall, Temple, George Mason, Kansas State, Rutgers, St. Johns, Maryland, UMass, et al to just pack it in?

sleeper;1158850 wrote:I have common sense. You do realize the claim you making is that students with lower grades are more successful than student with higher grades? I find that outright hilarious.

The only claim I'm making is that you have proved nothing and provided no evidence.

fish82;1158856 wrote:Wow...an even worse deflect. Since no source is forthcoming, let's move on. I think you've had enough on this particular point.


Next question:

If being #124 out of 4500 "sucks," at what rank does a college/university cease sucking? Is it safe to assume we can tell the alumni of UK, Louisville, DePaul, Seton Hall, Temple, George Mason, Kansas State, Rutgers, St. Johns, Maryland, UMass, et al to just pack it in?

There are plenty of mediocre paper pushing jobs from those beyond the top 100. They need positions too. Enjoy boring work for low pay the rest of your life.

FatHobbit;1158858 wrote:The only claim I'm making is that you have proved nothing and provided no evidence.

I would agree with your claim. I don't need to provide evidence of common sense just like I don't need to provide evidence that water is wet.

I find it hilarious you are trying to play faux intellectual and keep running your head into a brick wall. Carry on.

Well the school worked great for me and my girlfriend. I make around 70 k a year as a CPA and my girlfriend makes about 60k as a planner for express. As a couple who are both under the age of 30 I'll take our salaries and my shitty piece of paper from OU. Your salary has more to do with your chosen profession Then your college choice.

sportchampps;1158865 wrote:Your salary has more to do with your chosen profession Then your college choice.

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sportchampps;1158865 wrote:Well the school worked great for me and my girlfriend. I make around 70 k a year as a CPA and my girlfriend makes about 60k as a planner for express. As a couple who are both under the age of 30 I'll take our salaries and my shitty piece of paper from OU. Your salary has more to do with your chosen profession Then your college choice.

Before tax?

sleeper;1158864 wrote:I would agree with your claim. I don't need to provide evidence of common sense just like I don't need to provide evidence that water is wet.

I find it hilarious you are trying to play faux intellectual and keep running your head into a brick wall. Carry on.

I am embarrassed that you claim to be associated with OSU.

FatHobbit;1158869 wrote:I am embarrassed that you claim to be associated with OSU.

I'm embarrassed that you lack common sense.

Also, 70k is pretty good money. That is the exception not the rule though, at least at OU. Plus, depending on how long you've been out of school, 70k is peanuts. If someone offered me 70k I'd laugh and I've only been out of school for a little bit.