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pmoney25

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Dec 16, 2009 1:55 AM
Anvil needs in also.
Dec 15, 2009 8:55pm
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cat_lover

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Dec 16, 2009 2:53 AM
Rush should be in as well as Cheap Trick
Dec 15, 2009 9:53pm
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Upper90

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Dec 16, 2009 4:19 AM
I like how every year, when there's a rapper, or pop artist nominated, people act shocked.

It hasn't been strictly for rock music in quite some time, guys. And it does music on the whole a disservice to split it up by genre, and then you have classification problems.

Though, I do agree some other rap acts need to be in before LL, the Beasties were nominated for induction in 2007, or 2008, if I recall.
Dec 15, 2009 11:19pm
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Elliot Stabler

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Dec 16, 2009 5:24 AM
The top three that aren't in that should be are:

Jimmy Buffett
Bon Jovi
bad Company
Dec 16, 2009 12:24am
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Dec 16, 2009 9:37 AM
I still can't believe KISS is not in the HOF.
I visited not long ago and saw many that are less qualified than KISS. IMO
Dec 16, 2009 4:37am
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Dec 16, 2009 4:47 PM
Kiss, Bon Jovi, Rush, and many others that should be in are not. My opinion of that dump went down forever when Madonna went into the ROCK and ROLL hall of fame. Place is a joke.
Dec 16, 2009 11:47am
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Dec 16, 2009 4:49 PM
Its a joke and until they get some new blood things will never change... so get used to seeing your favorite bands get screwed year after year after year....
Dec 16, 2009 11:49am
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Upper90

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Dec 16, 2009 5:10 PM
Why would Madonna NOT be in?

I mean, if it's because she's a pop act, then Michael Jackson, James Brown, The Temptations, etc. should be out.

Again, just a little over 1/2 of the artists in the HOF aren't traditional Rock/Roll artists. Madonna is a layup to be in, no doubt. With her body (of work), impact, etc.....easy choice.

What I find is, people tend to not look at the entire scope of the RR HOF, and just say "Well, if my favorite band isn't in, it's a joke", which admittedly, is fair in some ways. The biggest snub that I tend to agree with is KISS. I just don't get it. I'm not even a KISS fan, in the least, but they gotta be in. I don't think they made a high quality of music, but they've got the record/concert sales, they've got SOME influence (and some will argue that their influence wasn't for the greater good of music, but I suppose I lean towards influence for influence's sake in this case), and they had a cultural impact, which is what I think is most important when looking to induct someone. I can't fathom KISS getting snubbed much longer, it's one of the rare times I feel like the HOF isn't doing a group justice.

Otherwise, I'm not sure, I mean, yeah...I'd love to see Rush get in, as well as the Moody Blues, but I'm not sure they'll be there, at least not any time soon.
Dec 16, 2009 12:10pm
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Dec 16, 2009 5:26 PM
I doubt we will ever see the Moody Blues get in, they basically told the HOF to go to hell a few years back. I do think they belong, as well as some of the other bands mentioned such as Kiss, Rush, etc.. but I'm guessing they burned that bridge! I agree with you Upper, many bands/artists that have been admitted are pop, R&B, etc... and not rock acts, they really ought to take the Rock & Roll out of the name RR HOF.
Dec 16, 2009 12:26pm
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Dec 16, 2009 5:42 PM
Freaking ABBA??????? I understand all the arguments for and against various artists who should or shouldn't be in, but freaking ABBA??????? Are you kidding me? Wow.
Dec 16, 2009 12:42pm
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enigmaax

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Dec 16, 2009 5:56 PM
zambrown wrote: Freaking ABBA??????? I understand all the arguments for and against various artists who should or shouldn't be in, but freaking ABBA??????? Are you kidding me? Wow.
You do know that ABBA is one of a handful of artists to sell more than 300 million records worldwide? You are talking Presley, Beatles, Jackson, Sinatra............and ABBA!!!!

But this HOF is probably a step down for them, since they have their OWN museum.
Dec 16, 2009 12:56pm
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Dec 16, 2009 6:02 PM
You say it's a big fucking joke and you include LL in your list of snubs...LOL, talk about a fucking joke.

I have no issues with Kiss not being in--they suck anyways. They're marketing masterminds, not musical masterminds.
Dec 16, 2009 1:02pm
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Upper90

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Dec 16, 2009 6:08 PM
Why would LL not be considered for the HOF?

While, I'm unsure that he's a SNUB this early...he's no doubt going to get in, and deserves it. Just not before Public Enemy, as far as what he meant, but since he got a head start on P.E. career wise, and date of first release is a criteria, he'll likely get in first. I'm not sure if P.E. is even eligible yet.

And in some ways, record sales ARE a measure. The HOF beats the "influence and significance" drum, and I think sales play into the significance part, at the very least. KISS' impact and influence can't be ignored, IMO, and I think they made awful music. Pretty much every hair metal band swag jacked it's live show from KISS (and if you want to talk about a REAL mess, think about in a few years when the HOF is mulling over Motley Crue and Poison for their inductions)...after a while, it stops being, at least for me, about what I think is good music, and has to do with all other factors considered, which is why I would vote KISS in, and not think twice.
Dec 16, 2009 1:08pm
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Dec 16, 2009 6:09 PM
ccrunner609 wrote: If record sales were a measure then Kiss would go in.
From what I've seen, the most common estimate for Kiss' record sales is about 70 million records. That is in a class with New Kids on the Block, Meat Loaf, and Kenny G.
Dec 16, 2009 1:09pm
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Upper90

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Dec 16, 2009 6:11 PM
Yeah, I just checked...Public Enemy = not eligible until 2012.

Since that's when the world will explode...I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT.
Dec 16, 2009 1:11pm
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Dec 16, 2009 6:13 PM
Upper90 wrote: Why would LL not be considered for the HOF?

Because it's the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME.
Dec 16, 2009 1:13pm
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Upper90

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Dec 16, 2009 6:14 PM
And BTW, as far as current inductees, I am just THRILLED to see Jimmy Cliff get in. And I think this is a great class, ABBA makes me cringe a bit...but that's more for personal taste reasons.

The Stooges, The Hollies....great class.
Dec 16, 2009 1:14pm
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Upper90

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Dec 16, 2009 6:15 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Upper90 wrote: Why would LL not be considered for the HOF?

Because it's the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME.

You must not have read much of the thread.

Despite the title, it hasn't been such for quite some time. Only about 1/2 of the acts inducted are true Rock acts. I've made that point twice already. While founded on the basis of Rock and Roll, even the first couple of groups of inductees were filled with soul/R&B acts.

The line of thinking is that the roots of R&R are in all, or most music. Whether or not I agree, it makes a lot more sense to keep the format as is, as opposed to breaking everything up by genre.

Now, should they change the name? Yeah, maybe.
Dec 16, 2009 1:15pm
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Dec 16, 2009 6:17 PM
Yeah I didn't read most of the thread. But I still feel that way, and I know a lot of the acts in there aren't rock acts--and I don't like that either. They should either take them out or change the name IMO--but I don't really care at the same time. That place sucks anyways.
Dec 16, 2009 1:17pm
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Dec 16, 2009 9:10 PM
^Don't seem to agree with you often, but the Ramones--LMAO! Awful!
Dec 16, 2009 4:10pm
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Dec 16, 2009 9:14 PM
70 million albums.... that tells ya something....
Dec 16, 2009 4:14pm
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Dec 16, 2009 9:15 PM
Tells me what I already know--they're marketing masterminds. Their music is not that good.
Dec 16, 2009 4:15pm
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Upper90

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Dec 16, 2009 9:17 PM
I dislike the Ramones as well, but they fall under the "Impact/Influence" category.

It can't be all one thing, I think. The Ramones played such an important part in an entire scene of music that can't be ignored, and whether I like their music or not, it is what it is.

I think for me, when it comes to things like this, it's easy to look past the fact of whether I like a group/artist or not, vs. whether that group/artist did something necessary and positive to impact music. Or really, anything at all.
Dec 16, 2009 4:17pm
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darbypitcher22

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Dec 16, 2009 9:18 PM
You don't sell 70 million albums if you don't have one or two hits somewhere along the line.....
Dec 16, 2009 4:18pm
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SQ_Crazies

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Dec 16, 2009 9:20 PM
Very true, Upper.

On the same level as Elvis, the Beatles, Hendrix, Nirvana in that sense.
Dec 16, 2009 4:20pm