like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 27, 2012 10:28am
zach24oz;1154918 wrote:Luck and RGIII should be more productive than Weeden since they were taken 1 and 2 in the draft.
The point is, even if all 3 have the same production, you can actually be patient with Luck and RG3, because they are young. Weeden will be hitting the downslope of his fucking prime in year 2.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Apr 27, 2012 10:28am
If he plays 3 years i'll be surprised. Your body doesn't recover the same at 29 as it does at 21shook_17;1154904 wrote:lol at all you guys being pissy because we are in a "win now mode" and trade 3 picks to get trent richardson and drafting our franchise qb. you guys wanted to get a rb/wr/ot and let colt mccoy be our qb and suck ass again next year then draft a qb next year, which is a joke. you play to win and compete for division titles, not to suck and hope for a top five pick next year to get our qb. what a joke.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 27, 2012 10:30am
Raw Dawgin' it;1154926 wrote:If he plays 3 years i'll be surprised. Your body doesn't recover the same at 29 as it does at 21
Apparently if you are in the NFL it does. Since his body has the same NFL mileage as every other rookie. Lolfail at that logic.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 27, 2012 10:34am
It's definitely a concern. But Warner did play 11 years.like_that;1154928 wrote:Apparently if you are in the NFL it does. Since his body has the same NFL mileage as every other rookie. Lolfail at that logic.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Apr 27, 2012 10:35am
passing on reiff and decastro is going to haunt us for a very long time (especially decastro then going to the steelers). i just want to know what the big hurry was in taking weeden so early? there's only about seven teams in the nfl that weren't completely sold on their qb going into the draft and that list dwindled on draft night. indy, washington and miami drafted their qbs in the first round so they were out. jax and minn aren't going to dump their first rounders from last season for a 28 year old rookie. seattle, kc and arizona have big money tied to their qbs and weeden isn't exactly a qb of the future. so with all that being said, who would have taken weeden? hell the browns could have probably got him in the third round
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 27, 2012 10:37am
Why?dazedconfused;1154937 wrote:passing on reiff and decastro is going to haunt us for a very long time (especially decastro then going to the steelers)
6 guards made pro bowl last year: 2 went undrafted, 1 went 3rd round, 1 4th, 1 5th...only Logan Mankins was taken in the 1st round. If there's any position you can get late/undrafted it's guard/right tackle
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 27, 2012 10:42am
lol @ you. you must be mad your parents didn't allow you to play sports. sorry for playing sports when i was young and not becoming a young punk like todays teenage kids. nice fail though.like_that;1154917 wrote:Lol right. So after winning 14 games the last 3 seasons all of sudden they are in WIN NOW mode? Excuse me while I lmao. Taking short cuts isn't WIN NOW mode, it's being desperate and hoping people like you will stop crying. They were going to be drafting the same position next year regardless of who our QB is. Lol at thinking Weeden will make this team a winner right away. Luck and RG3 will be more productive than him, and the good news for them is they won't be 30 going into their next season.
For a young person your desperation for a playoff team is comical. Maybe instead of playing in a fail youth league that played on Sundays (allegedly), you could have watches the Browns last playoff team.
you think taking a short cut is drafting weeden? excuse me while i lmao. a short cut would be signing jason campbell or trying to get peyton manning and over spending for free agents. you guys are a bunch of cry baby bitches. they are GMs for a reason. everybody sucks bernie kosars dick and he only played 7 years in cleveland. just because he is 28 doesn't mean he is going to suck. its funny you think youre a bad ass and talk all this shit but you sit behind a computer screen.
EDIT: if weeden was 21 he would be a top 10 pick. secondly he is our qb, get over yourself and your obession with watching a shitty team.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 27, 2012 10:47am
now now guys let's take it easy.
also, a special congrats to COA for being drafted 22nd last night. The OC is proud of you!
also, a special congrats to COA for being drafted 22nd last night. The OC is proud of you!
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Apr 27, 2012 10:48am
We're not talking about drinking/hangovers here haha.Raw Dawgin' it;1154926 wrote:If he plays 3 years i'll be surprised. Your body doesn't recover the same at 29 as it does at 21
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 27, 2012 10:50am
How many did Chris Weinke play?.....sighlhslep134;1154934 wrote:It's definitely a concern. But Warner did play 11 years.
I had to laugh at espn's coverage. When they showed all the Blackmon highlights when he was drafted...they were all terrible underthrows by Weeden. That's our guy..sigh. I hope I am wrong, but we will be sitting here in two years talking about who our next qb is...while discussing the new GM
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Apr 27, 2012 11:10am
I struggle with this as well but maybe the thought process is they still need to get a burner at WR to give the D something to consider with a big arm QB. With a RB/RT combo teams could still stack 7-8 in the box against us and force Colt to make throws which they could still defend due to his habit(necessity) to throw short.Y-Town Steelhound;1154920 wrote:Here's what makes no sense to me. If you're going to draft Weeden to be your QB of the future, that's fine.....but why draft Richardson instead of his favorite target in Blackmon!? And if you're gonna draft Richardson to be the focal point of your offense that's fine....But why not draft a RT and shore up the line to give him the best opportunity possible to succeed? The Richardson/Weeden combo doesn't make much sense to me.
A RT or WR could be had later in the draft as o-line still has value in mid rounds as well as this being a deep receiver draft.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Apr 27, 2012 11:18am
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 27, 2012 11:27am
Haha I laughed at that too.wes_mantooth;1154954 wrote: When they showed all the Blackmon highlights when he was drafted...they were all terrible underthrows by Weeden.
I wasn't comparing Weeden to Warner for skill, moreso that Warner, at 28/29, was able to handle being hit for 11 years.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2012 11:41am
I hope I'm wrong, but I agree with Wes here 100%. We will be picking another franchise QB in a year or two, except that time it will be without a top tier WR or top tier OG.wes_mantooth;1154954 wrote:How many did Chris Weinke play?.....sigh
I had to laugh at espn's coverage. When they showed all the Blackmon highlights when he was drafted...they were all terrible underthrows by Weeden. That's our guy..sigh. I hope I am wrong, but we will be sitting here in two years talking about who our next qb is...while discussing the new GM
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 27, 2012 12:13pm
Top tier OGs can be found all throughout the draft.sleeper;1155012 wrote:top tier OG.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Apr 27, 2012 12:13pm
Should be interesting to see but doesn't look promising. Would've rather gotten DeCastro then Russell Wilson in a later round. This is what H&H get paid the big bucks to evaluate though so let's see if they can do their jobs.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 27, 2012 1:01pm
he still needs somebody to throw it to.shook_17;1154890 wrote:glad the mccoy era is over. weeden will do just fine. it will be nice now knowing defenses cant stack the box against us because we will beat them deep now :thumbup:
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 27, 2012 1:04pm
I know this doesn't really matter because it's not speaking directly to Weeden or Decastro but statistically the odds of finding a legitimate lineman in later rounds is way higher than finding a legitimate quarterback. The chance are that Weeden/5th round OG will pan out better than Decastro/5th round QB.Y-Town Steelhound;1155057 wrote:Would've rather gotten DeCastro then Russell Wilson in a later round.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Apr 27, 2012 1:15pm
Or better than Decastro/McCoy.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Apr 27, 2012 2:17pm
There are many QB's that play into their mid to late 30's. I wish the would have gone another route with the pick, but it's not like they drafted a 28 year old running back.lhslep134;1154997 wrote:Haha I laughed at that too.
I wasn't comparing Weeden to Warner for skill, moreso that Warner, at 28/29, was able to handle being hit for 11 years.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 27, 2012 2:28pm
honestly i thought after the drafted richardson they would go wide receiver / best oline, then whatever they didn't take at 22 for the 37th pick. i was thought mccoy was the qb going into next year.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 27, 2012 2:53pm
So says the guy who posts a lie on his signature line. If I were you I'd be real careful in talking about percentages/odds and the like...because clearly, mathematics is not your long suit.lhslep134;1155130 wrote:I know this doesn't really matter because it's not speaking directly to Weeden or Decastro but statistically the odds of finding a legitimate lineman in later rounds is way higher than finding a legitimate quarterback. The chance are that Weeden/5th round OG will pan out better than Decastro/5th round QB.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 27, 2012 3:40pm
My sig is a lie how?Footwedge;1155234 wrote:So says the guy who posts a lie on his signature line. If I were you I'd be real careful in talking about percentages/odds and the like...because clearly, mathematics is not your long suit.
This was your direct quote:
Footwedge;1144951 wrote:
For everybody else...Drew Pomeranz....top 6 percentile as a pitching prospect. White not listed...no longer viewed as a prospect...because he has already pitched...
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/story/16531723/highlighting-top-pitcher-prospects-for-2012
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You said top 6 percentile for a person listed 6th in 25 person ranking. I'm lying how? My signature is 100% authentic and true to your stupidity. I've never ever seen someone continually bring up something in which they looked like a complete idiot and were 100% wrong about.
Why do you want to keep rehashing how dumb you are? Everyone has dropped the subject except you, which is just too funny.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Apr 27, 2012 4:38pm
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 27, 2012 4:50pm
Jeffery/Hill/Randle with their 37th pick and OL with their 67th pick possibly Allen from Illinois.Y-Town Steelhound;1154920 wrote:Here's what makes no sense to me. If you're going to draft Weeden to be your QB of the future, that's fine.....but why draft Richardson instead of his favorite target in Blackmon!? And if you're gonna draft Richardson to be the focal point of your offense that's fine....But why not draft a RT and shore up the line to give him the best opportunity possible to succeed? The Richardson/Weeden combo doesn't make much sense to me.
Problem solved.