karen lotz
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May 16, 2012 10:41pm
Why wasn't Kobe suspended for his foul in the first round series?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 16, 2012 10:42pm
karen lotz;1173594 wrote:Why wasn't Kobe suspended for his foul in the first round series?
Because he's a star.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 16, 2012 10:45pm
Hb31187;1173593 wrote:Yeah the NBA really really needs to do something about this. It didnt always use to be this bad, I mean sure MJ got away with a few push offs ect...but the star treatment in the new Era is ridiculous
Yeah. A push off is one thing. But blatant flagrant fouls are another ball game.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 16, 2012 10:45pm
Stick a fork in the Lakers. They have no chance. Kobe doesn't have a prime Shaq or Gasol to carry him to a championship this year.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 16, 2012 10:47pm
You guys don't get it, the NBA is a star driven league. No one wants to watch games with role players on the floor and the stars on the bench in foul trouble, the ratings would be horrible. The superstars drive this league, and there aren't that many of them.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
May 16, 2012 10:49pm
Then get rid of the foul out rule. Don't compromise the integrity of the game by not calling a foul based on who commits it.robj55;1173604 wrote:You guys don't get it, the NBA is a star driven league. No one wants to watch games with role players on the floor and the stars on the bench in foul trouble, the ratings would be horrible. The superstars drive this league, and there aren't that many of them.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 16, 2012 10:53pm
sleeper;1173601 wrote:Stick a fork in the Lakers. They have no chance. Kobe doesn't have a prime Shaq or Gasol to carry him to a championship this year.
You said the same thing during the Nuggets series.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 16, 2012 10:53pm
I'm not saying I disagree with any of the points, it just is what it is. These guys have some diva in them, they have been stars since they were young and the "man" since high school or before. Nothing is going to change, if they are aggressive they are going to get the whistles.chicago510;1173605 wrote:Then get rid of the foul out rule. Don't compromise the integrity of the game by not calling a foul based on who commits it.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 16, 2012 10:58pm
I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is, Lakers are done. Kobe will never win another ring unless he joins the Cavs at the tail end of his career.wildcats20;1173607 wrote:You said the same thing during the Nuggets series.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 16, 2012 11:18pm
I know you said you don't necessarily agree with what you just said (just pointing that that's the way it is), but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You call fouls when it's a foul. Shouldn't matter if it's a superstar, star, good player, role player, or scrub. If the stars are on the bench in foul trouble, that's basketball. Not calling fouls on superstars isn't basketball.robj55;1173604 wrote:You guys don't get it, the NBA is a star driven league. No one wants to watch games with role players on the floor and the stars on the bench in foul trouble, the ratings would be horrible. The superstars drive this league, and there aren't that many of them.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 16, 2012 11:24pm
It may be stupid, and we all don't agree with it, but that's the way it is. The league has less than 10 superstars imo. They aren't going to be on the bench in foul trouble, especially during the playoffs. It probably will never change, it has always been that way. All about $$$.SportsAndLady;1173622 wrote:I know you said you don't necessarily agree with what you just said (just pointing that that's the way it is), but that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You call fouls when it's a foul. Shouldn't matter if it's a superstar, star, good player, role player, or scrub. If the stars are on the bench in foul trouble, that's basketball. Not calling fouls on superstars isn't basketball.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 16, 2012 11:26pm
Lakers can win this series, they just have to play THEIR game. No way they win running up and down with OKC, must keep it in the half court.
chicago510
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May 16, 2012 11:30pm
This quarter is painful.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
May 16, 2012 11:32pm
You honestly think if Wade got suspended for his shoulder check last night, that the ratings would take a dive?robj55;1173604 wrote:You guys don't get it, the NBA is a star driven league. No one wants to watch games with role players on the floor and the stars on the bench in foul trouble, the ratings would be horrible. The superstars drive this league, and there aren't that many of them.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 16, 2012 11:33pm
James Harden does the same move to the basket every time, starts one way and always cuts back across to the other hand.
robj55
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May 16, 2012 11:33pm
I think that people want to see stars perform, and they can't do that if they aren't playing.friendfromlowry;1173637 wrote:You honestly think if Wade got suspended for his shoulder check last night, that the ratings would take a dive?
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 16, 2012 11:39pm
Lol then they shouldnt commit flagrant 2 foulsrobj55;1173640 wrote:I think that people want to see stars perform, and they can't do that if they aren't playing.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
May 16, 2012 11:39pm
No kidding? That didn't really answer me.robj55;1173640 wrote:I think that people want to see stars perform, and they can't do that if they aren't playing.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 16, 2012 11:40pm
but F it, thats the way the leagues gonna be from now on out. Id rather watch a game where players dont get favoritism this blatantly but thatll never happen with Stern at the helm
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 16, 2012 11:41pm
Well that is the logic behind the whole thing, can't really say anything more than I already have on it.friendfromlowry;1173651 wrote:No kidding? That didn't really answer me.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 16, 2012 11:42pm
not arguing that factHb31187;1173650 wrote:Lol then they shouldnt commit flagrant 2 fouls
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 16, 2012 11:42pm
Or even if they get favoritism on drives where they get to go to the line id be borderline okay with that. But when stars make dirty plays like Kobe and like Wade, it shouldnt matter who the hell you are. You should get disciplined for that
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 16, 2012 11:43pm
Fans want to see a lot of things, doesn't mean they should change the game to satisfy them.robj55;1173640 wrote:I think that people want to see stars perform, and they can't do that if they aren't playing.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
May 16, 2012 11:44pm
Yeah I'm sure all 7 Miami fans aren't going to watch if Wade gets a game for being a total d-bag.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 16, 2012 11:44pm
People want to see stars perform, they want to see them do the amazing because they are capable of it. Only hard core fans of the game really care about seeing role players and watching the intricacies and nuances of the game.