robj55
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Jun 7, 2012 9:03pm
I shouldn't say everyone, most people.
Rotinaj
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Jun 7, 2012 9:05pm
Lebron disappears in the 4th quarters of playoff games against good teams. No brainwashing, that's a fact.robj55;1192478 wrote:People only remember what the media wants them to remember, we are all brainwashed by ESPN.
Pick6
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Jun 7, 2012 9:06pm
this.Rotinaj;1192481 wrote:Lebron disappears in the 4th quarters of playoff games against good teams. No brainwashing, that's a fact.
robj55
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Jun 7, 2012 9:06pm
At times he has, a few. He averages 30, 9 and 7 in elimination games, pretty clutch if you ask me.Rotinaj;1192481 wrote:Lebron disappears in the 4th quarters of playoff games against good teams. No brainwashing, that's a fact.
wildcats20
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Jun 7, 2012 9:08pm
His teams are a combined 2-6 in elimination games.robj55;1192484 wrote:At times he has, a few. He averages 30, 9 and 7 in elimination games, pretty clutch if you ask me.
Classyposter58
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Jun 7, 2012 9:08pm
Amenrobj55;1192478 wrote:People only remember what the media wants them to remember, we are all brainwashed by ESPN.
Classyposter58
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Jun 7, 2012 9:09pm
:laugh:That's what happens when Varejao is your 2nd best player for 7 yearswildcats20;1192485 wrote:His teams are a combined 2-6 in elimination games.
Rotinaj
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Jun 7, 2012 9:09pm
And all that comes in the first 3 quarters. Just imagine if he didn't get a sandy vag at the beginning of the 4th.
robj55
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Jun 7, 2012 9:10pm
Yes, it's a team sport. I was just saying that he has put up big numbers and shown up, people just remember the times that he didn't come through like he was supposed to rather than the many times he put up huge numbers.wildcats20;1192485 wrote:His teams are a combined 2-6 in elimination games.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 7, 2012 9:11pm
So what happened last year? With 2 of the best players in the NBA as his teammates??Classyposter58;1192487 wrote::laugh:That's what happens when Varejao is your 2nd best player for 7 years
robj55
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Jun 7, 2012 9:11pm
I can't prove or disprove that, but I would venture to say that a good chunk of those numbers came in the 4th as well as the other quarters.Rotinaj;1192488 wrote:And all that comes in the first 3 quarters. Just imagine if he didn't get a sandy vag at the beginning of the 4th.
robj55
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Jun 7, 2012 9:12pm
Everyone knows what happened in the finals, inexcusable.wildcats20;1192490 wrote:So what happened last year? With 2 of the best players in the NBA as his teammates??
chicago510
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Jun 7, 2012 9:12pm
LeBron will likely get skewered if the Heat lose, but Dwyane wade had 0 pts in the first quarter. He disappears for way too long.
chicago510
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Jun 7, 2012 9:13pm
Robj had me curious about MJ's early year playoff stats. So I'll just leave this here:
Jordan vs. Boston, 1986 Playoffs - 43.7 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.7 apg 2.3 spg 1.3 bpg 51% FG
Jordan vs. Cavs, 1988 Playoffs - 45.2 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.8 apg 2+ spg 1+ bpg 56% FG
Jordan vs. Cavs, 1989 Playoffs - 40.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 8.2 apg 2+ spg 1 bpg 53% FG
Jordan vs. Philly, 1990 Playoffs - 43.0 ppg 6.6 rpg 7.4 apg 3 spg 1+ bpg 55+% FG
Jordan vs. Miami, 1992 Playoffs - 45.0 ppg 9.7 rpg 6.7 apg 3 spg1 bpg 61% FG
Jordan vs. Phoenix, 1993 NBA Finals - 41.0 ppg 8.5 rpg 6.3 apg 2 spg 1 bpg 51% FG
Jordan vs. Boston, 1986 Playoffs - 43.7 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.7 apg 2.3 spg 1.3 bpg 51% FG
Jordan vs. Cavs, 1988 Playoffs - 45.2 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.8 apg 2+ spg 1+ bpg 56% FG
Jordan vs. Cavs, 1989 Playoffs - 40.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 8.2 apg 2+ spg 1 bpg 53% FG
Jordan vs. Philly, 1990 Playoffs - 43.0 ppg 6.6 rpg 7.4 apg 3 spg 1+ bpg 55+% FG
Jordan vs. Miami, 1992 Playoffs - 45.0 ppg 9.7 rpg 6.7 apg 3 spg1 bpg 61% FG
Jordan vs. Phoenix, 1993 NBA Finals - 41.0 ppg 8.5 rpg 6.3 apg 2 spg 1 bpg 51% FG
karen lotz
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Jun 7, 2012 9:13pm
Fresh argument!
wildcats20
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Jun 7, 2012 9:14pm
IF(and this is a pretty big if right now) Ray Ray can catch a little heat, the C's will get right back in this. I just don't know if his legs have it anymore.
Midstate01
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Jun 7, 2012 9:14pm
Wrong thread
Midstate01
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Jun 7, 2012 9:16pm
chicago510;1192496 wrote:Robj had me curious about MJ's early year playoff stats. So I'll just leave this here:
Jordan vs. Boston, 1986 Playoffs - 43.7 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.7 apg 2.3 spg 1.3 bpg 51% FG
Jordan vs. Cavs, 1988 Playoffs - 45.2 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.8 apg 2+ spg 1+ bpg 56% FG
Jordan vs. Cavs, 1989 Playoffs - 40.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 8.2 apg 2+ spg 1 bpg 53% FG
Jordan vs. Philly, 1990 Playoffs - 43.0 ppg 6.6 rpg 7.4 apg 3 spg 1+ bpg 55+% FG
Jordan vs. Miami, 1992 Playoffs - 45.0 ppg 9.7 rpg 6.7 apg 3 spg1 bpg 61% FG
Jordan vs. Phoenix, 1993 NBA Finals - 41.0 ppg 8.5 rpg 6.3 apg 2 spg 1 bpg 51% FG
He was alright
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 7, 2012 9:17pm
crazychicago510;1192496 wrote:Robj had me curious about MJ's early year playoff stats. So I'll just leave this here:
Jordan vs. Boston, 1986 Playoffs - 43.7 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.7 apg 2.3 spg 1.3 bpg 51% FG
Jordan vs. Cavs, 1988 Playoffs - 45.2 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.8 apg 2+ spg 1+ bpg 56% FG
Jordan vs. Cavs, 1989 Playoffs - 40.0 ppg 5.8 rpg 8.2 apg 2+ spg 1 bpg 53% FG
Jordan vs. Philly, 1990 Playoffs - 43.0 ppg 6.6 rpg 7.4 apg 3 spg 1+ bpg 55+% FG
Jordan vs. Miami, 1992 Playoffs - 45.0 ppg 9.7 rpg 6.7 apg 3 spg1 bpg 61% FG
Jordan vs. Phoenix, 1993 NBA Finals - 41.0 ppg 8.5 rpg 6.3 apg 2 spg 1 bpg 51% FG
robj55
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Jun 7, 2012 9:19pm
One thing I remember about Jordan in his younger days was how quick and explosive his first step was to the bucket, even though you know he primarily he could only go right, still tough to stop.
THE4RINGZ
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Jun 7, 2012 9:22pm
Rotinaj;1192481 wrote:Lebron disappears in the 4th quarters of playoff games against good teams. No brainwashing, that's a fact.
The Frozen One
chicago510
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Jun 7, 2012 9:22pm
Still blows my mind he scored 63 and 69 points in playoff games. If that happened today the world would stop.robj55;1192506 wrote:One thing I remember about Jordan in his younger days was how quick and explosive his first step was to the bucket, even though you know he primarily he could only go right, still tough to stop.
Edit---derp the 69 v Cleveland was regular season. I was thinking of his 63 v boston and his 55 v cleveland.
robj55
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Jun 7, 2012 9:23pm
Against Boston and Atlanta correct? Two really good teams of that era.chicago510;1192510 wrote:Still blows my mind he scored 63 and 69 points in playoff games. If that happened today the world would stop.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 7, 2012 9:25pm
Lebron is really bringing it tonight...so far.
Still cannot make a FT though
Still cannot make a FT though
wildcats20
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Jun 7, 2012 9:26pm
lol at JVG. "Look at all the defenders in his area."
There were 2.
There were 2.