Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 31, 2012 9:47am
I would hardly call Ariza, Ron Artest, and Michel Redd "Star" FAs. The point being is that the Cavs team was tailored to LBJ (like the bulls are to Rose, Magic are to Howard), and remove him and the team will now be pretty bad. No one is lining up to sign long term deals in Chicago as FAs or in Orlando either. Not surprised you ignore this fact for your typical failsponse.Skyhook79;1185733 wrote:None of that mattered. Star FA players do not want to play in Cleveland period regardless if Lebron talks to them or not.
Also star FAs in the NBA are a rare thing, the yr of LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare was a one time thing. I can't name the last star in NBA other than those that hit FA. Nice troll fail.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 31, 2012 9:53am
LBJ wasn't the only player that left the Cavs the year he signed with Miami. Cleveland could have competed in the Eastern Conf if it was just Lebron that left. Way to ignore the facts.Commander of Awesome;1185745 wrote:I would hardly call Ariza, Ron Artest, and Michel Redd "Star" FAs. The point being is that the Cavs team was tailored to LBJ (like the bulls are to Rose, Magic are to Howard), and remove him and the team will now be pretty bad. No one is lining up to sign long term deals in Chicago as FAs or in Orlando either. Not surprised you ignore this fact for your typical failsponse.
Also star FAs in the NBA are a rare thing, the yr of LBJ, Bosh, Wade, and Amare was a one time thing. I can't name the last star in NBA other than those that hit FA. Nice troll fail.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 31, 2012 10:00am
Who else left? Shaq? LMAO what a dipshit. Not to mention the injuries to players like Anderson Varejao.Skyhook79;1185756 wrote:LBJ wasn't the only player that left the Cavs the year he signed with Miami. Cleveland could have competed in the Eastern Conf if it was just Lebron that left. Way to ignore the facts.
The cavs team was built with shooters around LBJ to space the floor. He was the main player outside of Mo Williams that could create his own shot and pretty much the only one that could drive and kick the ball out. Once that threat was gone, the shooters were guarded much closer and thus harder to pass them and give them better looks. The entire team was built around the best player in the league (3x MVP). Once he's gone the team was in full rebuild mode, and you're delusional if you think the team without LBJ should contend in the East.
Talk about spin control, just stop talking and let the adults talk. Thanks.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
May 31, 2012 10:14am
2kool4skool;1185623 wrote:If Durant, Westbrook, and Harden have a party in the offseason and guarauntee 8 championships, perhaps they'll start taking the same criticism when they come up short in big moments.
Is it completely objective? No. Did Lebron bring it all on himself? Yes. Are you a gigantic tool if you're rooting for the Miami Heat currently? Yes.
Bingo.
It's hardly just Cav fans that want to see the Heat not win a title, it's almost anyone that is a sports fan. I don't know a single real NBA fan in Cincinnati but everyone talks about it when Lebron chokes and they want to see the Heat not win a title because of the big show when Lebron took his talents to South Beach. Kevin Durant has always done the right things, seems like a great teammate, seems genuine and you never hear a bad thing about him, that's why people don't get on him for a bad 4th quarter. If he leaves OKC for LA or wherever and makes a big deal about it then he'll get the exact same treatment Lebron is getting, guaranteed.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 31, 2012 10:20am
tim legler made a good point on NBA Today Podcast. OKC really needs Jeff Green in this series, an athletic four that can guard the perimiter and knock down some 3s, and Bos really needs Perkins to guard the paint against the Heat.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 31, 2012 10:24am
Still scratch my head over why the Celts dealt Perkins. It was like Ainge was trying not to win a title.Commander of Awesome;1185791 wrote:tim legler made a good point on NBA Today Podcast. OKC really needs Gerald Green in this series, an athletic four that can guard the perimiter and knock down some 3s, and Bos really needs Perkins to guard the paint against the Heat.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 31, 2012 10:34am
This x10. Perkins is exactly what Boston needs right now, I don't know if OKC really needs freaking Jeff Green.BR1986FB;1185795 wrote:Still scratch my head over why the Celts dealt Perkins. It was like Ainge was trying not to win a title.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2012 11:10am
No I didn't elude to it at all, I eluded to the fact that he has shrank in the playoffs(last year shot like 35% in the conference finals) and has shrank in the 4th quarters of this series and not one word has been spoken about it on here. This place is a bunch of hypocrites. Like I said, people on here aren't objective if they don't like you. Yes I realize I'm not always objective about Lebron but at least I back up my arguments with basketball related details and not just hating bias bullshit.Commander of Awesome;1185716 wrote:rob eluded to it. Probably bc he's the biggest LBJ "supporter"/excuse maker/apologist on this site along with Jordo. Great company he keeps. He can be as delusional as a kobe supporter when it comes to LBJ and any player that is perceieved to be close to his level.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 31, 2012 11:18am
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 31, 2012 11:19am
When you're on the baseline about 5 feet away it sure should berobj55;1185608 wrote:no it wasn't, not on first glance
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2012 11:24am
For them yes, I was referring to all of us watching the game. I don't think one person on here that was posting last night saw it on first glance.Hb31187;1185847 wrote:When you're on the baseline about 5 feet away it sure should be
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2012 11:29am
Not at all, you're just trying to put words in my mouth. Durant is a great player, anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know much about this sport.Commander of Awesome;1185844 wrote:
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 31, 2012 11:32am
I cleaned up that post a bit for you.robj55;1185837 wrote: Yes I realize I'm never objective about Lebron
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 31, 2012 11:37am
robj55;1185600 wrote:shh, don't let the cat out of the bag. We only hate on people we don't like. Durant seems like a good kid so it's okay.
Yeah you're right. 50% shooting, 41% from 3, 91% FT, 9 rebs, 3 ast, 1.5 blk, 2 stls, and 29 pts over his last 5 games is REALLY falling off. Get over it. You're kidding yourself if you think he's having a poor playoffs.robj55;1185858 wrote:Not at all, you're just trying to put words in my mouth. Durant is a great player, anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know much about this sport.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2012 11:40am
He has taken like 4 shots total in the 4th quarters of this series so far. Like I said he shot about 35% against the Mavs in the conference finals last year. Not a word was spoken about coming up short.Commander of Awesome;1185861 wrote:Yeah you're right. 50% shooting, 41% from 3, 91% FT, 9 rebs, 3 ast, 1.5 blk, 2 stls, and 29 pts over his last 5 games is REALLY falling off. Get over it. You're kidding yourself if you think he's having a poor playoffs.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2012 11:42am
That's fine, but I at least back up my statements with basketball related arguments, not nonsensical hatred bs.BR1986FB;1185860 wrote:I cleaned up that post a bit for you.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
May 31, 2012 11:44am
Tiger2003;1185504 wrote:Where was the foul?
You didn't post this until after the replay was shown.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 31, 2012 12:09pm
What, you mean like "Lebron isn't clutch and tends to choke in defining/late moments of the game" or "he tends to avoid taking the ball in the lane late when he knows he may get fouled and have to make clutch free throws?" Not hatred...ANYONE can see this. I don't like the guy, as a person, but these are things that can't be ignored.robj55;1185868 wrote:That's fine, but I at least back up my statements with basketball related arguments, not nonsensical hatred bs.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 31, 2012 12:10pm
Not playoff related but WTF? If this has been posted already, apologies...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/deshawn-stevenson-atm-in-kitchen_n_1558565.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/deshawn-stevenson-atm-in-kitchen_n_1558565.html
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
May 31, 2012 12:23pm
Yeah the pic was already posted... but SVP was talking about this the other day and brought up a good point. If you're doing any gambling sometimes youll have that dude who will always be like I don't have the money well now they can always pay up.BR1986FB;1185885 wrote:Not playoff related but WTF? If this has been posted already, apologies...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/deshawn-stevenson-atm-in-kitchen_n_1558565.html
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 31, 2012 12:59pm
Excuse me while I LMAO. You are selling yourself short there little guy.robj55;1185837 wrote:No I didn't elude to it at all, I eluded to the fact that he has shrank in the playoffs(last year shot like 35% in the conference finals) and has shrank in the 4th quarters of this series and not one word has been spoken about it on here. This place is a bunch of hypocrites. Like I said, people on here aren't objective if they don't like you. Yes I realize I'm not always objective about Lebron but at least I back up my arguments with basketball related details and not just hating bias bullshit.
Reps, because you beat me to it.BR1986FB;1185860 wrote:I cleaned up that post a bit for you.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 31, 2012 1:04pm
Little guy? Wtflike_that;1185928 wrote:Excuse me while I LMAO. You are selling yourself short there little guy.
Reps, because you beat me to it.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 31, 2012 3:58pm
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
May 31, 2012 4:04pm
Got any clever pics of LeBron in a Duke Blue Devil hat? Maybe he and Carlos Boozer hugging? That would be uber lolz
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 31, 2012 4:08pm
