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Apr 27, 2012 12:17 PM
Classyposter58;1155023 wrote:I like what Numbers Never Lie showed about RG3 and Luck. Basically showed how RG3 owned him in every category when it came to throwing in the pocket. More accurate, more TD's, less interceptions and 12% more accurate with the deep ball. I'm telling you guys I really think he's better
Did the numbers that don't lie say how much of this was due to RG3 having vastly better receivers?
Apr 27, 2012 12:17pm
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Apr 27, 2012 12:36 PM
sleeper;1155027 wrote:RGIII will bust out. Guy played in a conference with bad defense. He's a system QB. The only difference between him and Weeden is RGIII is an athlete and can run if necessary.
Same conference as Weeden...and McCoy...and Seneca Wallace.

Come to think of it, who was the last Big 12 QB to do well in the NFL? Bradford is doing ok, Landry Jones should do well, Gabbert..not so much.
Apr 27, 2012 12:36pm
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Apr 27, 2012 12:39 PM
Commander of Awesome;1155061 wrote:Andrew Brandt @adbrandt 10h As per agent @MikeMcCartney7, someone made a prank call to tell Mohamed Sanu he was being drafted first round by Bengals.
saw that. such a dick move. someone must really have axe to grind with sanu
Apr 27, 2012 12:39pm
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Apr 27, 2012 12:57 PM
sportswizuhrd;1155092 wrote:Same conference as Weeden...and McCoy...and Seneca Wallace.

Come to think of it, who was the last Big 12 QB to do well in the NFL? Bradford is doing ok, Landry Jones should do well, Gabbert..not so much.
i thought gabbert showed flashes of good play its hard to be successful when your on your back all game. same goes for mccoy two years ago.
Apr 27, 2012 12:57pm
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Apr 27, 2012 12:59 PM
sportswizuhrd;1155092 wrote:Same conference as Weeden...and McCoy...and Seneca Wallace.

Come to think of it, who was the last Big 12 QB to do well in the NFL? Bradford is doing ok, Landry Jones should do well, Gabbert..not so much.
Exactly. Weeden won't be good either.
Apr 27, 2012 12:59pm
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Apr 27, 2012 1:11 PM
sleeper;1155027 wrote:RGIII will bust out. Guy played in a conference with bad defense. He's a system QB.
Luck played in the Pac-12. I doubt their defense was a lot better than the Big-12.

I believe both Luck and rgiii will be around the NFL for a while. We will see who has the better career.
Apr 27, 2012 1:11pm
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Apr 27, 2012 1:41 PM
Gblock;1155122 wrote:i thought gabbert showed flashes of good play its hard to be successful when your on your back all game. same goes for mccoy two years ago.
Gabbert was the worst QB I have ever seen. He didnt even look like he should be on the field. Looked more scared than anything.
Apr 27, 2012 1:41pm
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Apr 27, 2012 1:42 PM
Classyposter58;1155023 wrote:I like what Numbers Never Lie showed about RG3 and Luck. Basically showed how RG3 owned him in every category when it came to throwing in the pocket. More accurate, more TD's, less interceptions and 12% more accurate with the deep ball. I'm telling you guys I really think he's better
Lucks wideouts were TEs. He didnt even play with WRs. That offense was ridiculous. Im amazed at how well the numbers he put up were actually.
Apr 27, 2012 1:42pm
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Apr 27, 2012 1:44 PM
Laley23;1155158 wrote:Gabbert was the worst QB I have ever seen. He didnt even look like he should be on the field. Looked more scared than anything.
Didn't watch much of Ryan Leaf, did you? THAT guy was an absolute trainwreck his first year.

9 games started, 45.3% completion, 1,289 yards, 2 TD, 15 INT, 4 lost fumbles. 39.0 QB rating
Apr 27, 2012 1:44pm
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Apr 27, 2012 1:46 PM
gorocks99;1155163 wrote:Didn't watch much of Ryan Leaf, did you?
Lol, I was 11 when he was a rookie.

But now, even if I had watched a lot of him, I dont remember anything. I wouldnt know what bad was then either.
Apr 27, 2012 1:46pm
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Apr 27, 2012 1:47 PM
Laley23;1155158 wrote:Gabbert was the worst QB I have ever seen. He didnt even look like he should be on the field. Looked more scared than anything.
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Never saw Trent Dilfer/Charlie Frye/Jake FAILhomme play for the browns I take it.
Apr 27, 2012 1:47pm
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Apr 27, 2012 1:49 PM
Commander of Awesome;1155172 wrote:]

Never saw Trent Dilfer/Charlie Frye/Jake FAILhomme play for the browns I take it.
Yeah, and they were bad. But I dont know. Gabbert mightve been worse lol. He was really bad. Like, I dont remember seeing glimpses of anything from him.

Dilfer was way better than Gabbert and so was Delhomme. Frye was really bad though, but even he had moments.
Apr 27, 2012 1:49pm
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Apr 27, 2012 1:53 PM
Commander of Awesome;1155172 wrote:]

Never saw Trent Dilfer/Charlie Frye/Jake FAILhomme play for the browns I take it.
Or Jamarcus the Hutt Russell.
Apr 27, 2012 1:53pm
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Apr 27, 2012 3:32 PM
I was just searching to see if this was posted...well done
Apr 27, 2012 3:32pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:05 PM
Round 2 underway

Rams take Brian Quick WR App State
Apr 27, 2012 7:05pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:06 PM
Good, another WR not named Stephen Hill or Reuben Randle taken.
Apr 27, 2012 7:06pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:09 PM
Colts gonna keep Luck happy.
Apr 27, 2012 7:09pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:10 PM
Great pick for them
Apr 27, 2012 7:10pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:13 PM
Love the pick by the Rams. And knew all along if Fleener was there the Colts were taking him.
Apr 27, 2012 7:13pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:14 PM
That's a good pick for the Ravens.
Apr 27, 2012 7:14pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:18 PM
yeah, Upshaw nice fit there

darn
Apr 27, 2012 7:18pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:20 PM
Wolfe goes in the high second round. From Beaver Local, OH
Apr 27, 2012 7:20pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:31 PM
Woah.....there goes Jenkins
Apr 27, 2012 7:31pm
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Apr 27, 2012 7:37 PM
Really love that pick for the Rams. They are having a great draft.
Apr 27, 2012 7:37pm