
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Mar 1, 2012 9:12am
+1. MANTOOTH IS JUST A MORAN!!!sjmvsfscs08;1101580 wrote:If I paid you his salary, would you make the same decision?

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 1, 2012 11:51am
Headline on ESPN "Happy Endings". ESPN is the worst.

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 1, 2012 11:56am
That's what I read. Hopefully, that's how it works, as keeping Wallace is kinda important for the team's success in the near future.Gblock;1101682 wrote:colbert said the other day we should be able to re-sign mike wallace due to restructuring of several deals including ben and woodley

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 1, 2012 11:57am
They plan to Tender him, problem is the cap room is the current offerHeretic;1101937 wrote:That's what I read. Hopefully, that's how it works, as keeping Wallace is kinda important for the team's success in the near future.

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Mar 1, 2012 4:13pm
Just read that the Steelers are also releasing Aaron Smith.

ichsnjb
Posts: 285
Mar 1, 2012 4:17pm
They are also releasing Aaron Smith and not franchise tagging Mike Wallace.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Mar 1, 2012 4:33pm
I think Larry Foote is on his way out too....all the vets are getting let go.
What is up w/ Hampton. Still hurt correct and I know he will be getting a hefty contract this coming year. I thought he might get released...I guess not.
What is up w/ Hampton. Still hurt correct and I know he will be getting a hefty contract this coming year. I thought he might get released...I guess not.

GoPens
Posts: 2,339
Mar 1, 2012 5:12pm
KDKA just said to expect Farrior to be released as well. The "old, slow" defense will definately be younger next year...less experienced too.
I expect Hampton to go too.
I expect Hampton to go too.
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Gblock
Mar 1, 2012 5:34pm
just heard gm said they aren t ruling out anything as far as hines is concerned so there is still a chance he comes back

hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Mar 1, 2012 5:35pm
Talking to my friends that are Steelers' fans, they all seem to be saying "hate to see our old favorites go, but the new crop is here." It makes sense.
Pisses me off, but the Steelers are great at making players lifers.
Pisses me off, but the Steelers are great at making players lifers.
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Gblock
Mar 1, 2012 5:36pm
honestly a lot of teams(including us at times when it comes to paying vets) would have let him go without paying him what we did on his last contractpnhasbeen;1102435 wrote:Talking to my friends that are Steelers' fans, they all seem to be saying "hate to see our old favorites go, but the new crop is here." It makes sense.
Pisses me off, but the Steelers are great at making players lifers.

hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Mar 1, 2012 5:55pm
Agreed. In all reality, Hines mentoring Wallace, Sanders, and Brown probably got him moved off the team.Gblock;1102436 wrote:honestly a lot of teams would have let him go without paying him what we did on his last contract
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Gblock
Mar 1, 2012 6:06pm
very truepnhasbeen;1102451 wrote:Agreed. In all reality, Hines mentoring Wallace, Sanders, and Brown probably got him moved off the team.

ichsnjb
Posts: 285
Mar 1, 2012 6:37pm
Chris Kemo released as well... DOUBLE YOY!
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Mar 1, 2012 8:57pm
Thats the difference between the greatest pro sports franchise and your team . Hines will always be a Steeler . We love him and if you read his comments he loves the Steelers organisation . We are a team and teammates help eachother out . If he were a selfish self centered person like yourself he may have been gone last year . Hines can fit in somewhere as a 3rd wideout . He is fearless over the middle and can teach younger wideouts work ethic and better ways to be a teammate. He helped our guys because its in his DNA . Its refreshing for a wideout to be so selfless. You rip him ,but youd be lucky to have him mentoring your guys . We will miss him and I wish he would still be with us because he is far to good a football player to go to 99% of the teams .St Louis should try to pick him up as they are young and have a young QB.pnhasbeen;1102451 wrote:Agreed. In all reality, Hines mentoring Wallace, Sanders, and Brown probably got him moved off the team.

hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Mar 1, 2012 9:01pm
what's my team thinthick?Thinthickbigred;1102562 wrote:Thats the difference between the greatest pro sports franchise and your team . Hines will always be a Steeler . We love him and if you read his comments he loves the Steelers organisation . We are a team and teammates help eachother out . If he were a selfish self centered person like yourself he may have been gone last year . Hines can fit in somewhere as a 3rd wideout . He is fearless over the middle and can teach younger wideouts work ethic and better ways to be a teammate. He helped our guys because its in his DNA . Its refreshing for a wideout to be so selfless. You rip him ,but youd be lucky to have him mentoring your guys . We will miss him and I wish he would still be with us because he is far to good a football player to go to 99% of the teams .St Louis should try to pick him up as they are young and have a young QB.
when did i say he wouldn't be a steeler for life? i'm pretty sure i said the steelers were good at making players "lifers"
selfish, self-centered? proof please.
he can teach a lot, eh? then he should become a coach.
i rip him? i merely called him a has been. which is true based on how the thing you say the most about him is he can teach. which means his skills as an actual receiver aren't there anymore.
he is far too good of a football player to go to other teams? wtf?
plz b honest
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Mar 1, 2012 10:01pm
^^^^ actully it doesnt matter who your team is . You called him a washed up has been . Then you later implied he shouldnt have been such a help to the younger wideouts. Your attitude is more in tune with a steel mill or factory worker who wont help the new guy out . Or in pro sports your attitude might be more in line with Randy Moss or T.O.
I think the guy has more to give and just because he is not as fast of athletically skilled as he once was doesnt mean he doesnt have significant atributes he can serve to another team . Im sad he is gone,we will misss him for sure .. He is the best blocking wideout in league history . The guy is what a team player is all about . Your attitude and comments you made towards Hines leads me to believe you are self centered and wouldnt be a good team player yourself . Dont worry you fit into most of the American mainstream ..
I think the guy has more to give and just because he is not as fast of athletically skilled as he once was doesnt mean he doesnt have significant atributes he can serve to another team . Im sad he is gone,we will misss him for sure .. He is the best blocking wideout in league history . The guy is what a team player is all about . Your attitude and comments you made towards Hines leads me to believe you are self centered and wouldnt be a good team player yourself . Dont worry you fit into most of the American mainstream ..

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 1, 2012 10:13pm
I don't like memories of Jerry Rice on the Raiders or Randy Moss on the Titans but I cannot fathom being a major D1 college star and a professional athlete with tremendous success for many years and think about not playing anymore. Seriously, like, hate or tolerate Ward....can anyone seriously argue this guy doesn't have some kind of special passion for football. I loved him being a Steeler all these years, but if he wants to keep playing what he has always done....why would anyone care?

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Mar 1, 2012 10:59pm
Shocked flags werent half staff in Weirton today.

hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Mar 2, 2012 1:43am
Thinthickbigred;1102620 wrote:^^^^ actully it doesnt matter who your team is . You called him a washed up has been . Then you later implied he shouldnt have been such a help to the younger wideouts.
actually, you're an idiot. I didn't imply that at all.
Oh and he is a washed up has been. Used to be good. Isn't anymore.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Mar 2, 2012 8:49am
I played HS and college ball and I forgot more football then you will ever know . Its real easy to call people names on the net isnt it . Instead of just argueing you want to revert to the 3rd grade level as usual .Ill try not to stoop to your level again and say Hines is still better than most Wideouts in the league . The Steelers are just loaded up now and he is at the end of his career . We let 4 mil a year go and now we are under the salary cap . Hines only lost his starting job last year and only because we have some studs at the position ... Why cant you understand that he would be a very nice assett to a young QB . There is more to being a wide out then the 40 yd dash . I cant remember a guy so fearless to go over the middle then him . What reciever blocks better than him downfield ? I know he isnt as good as he was but he still is NFL worthy and a team will pick him up . Try making an argument on your position next time instead of insulting me . Stick with the facts or the issue at hand.pnhasbeen;1102765 wrote:actually, you're an idiot. I didn't imply that at all.
Oh and he is a washed up has been. Used to be good. Isn't anymore.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 2, 2012 9:00am
Hines is washed up and not very good anymore.

hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Mar 2, 2012 10:28am
you called me selfish and self-centered. that isn't 3rd grade, but that is 4th grade insults.Thinthickbigred;1102841 wrote:I played HS and college ball and I forgot more football then you will ever know . Its real easy to call people names on the net isnt it . Instead of just argueing you want to revert to the 3rd grade level as usual .Ill try not to stoop to your level again and say Hines is still better than most Wideouts in the league . The Steelers are just loaded up now and he is at the end of his career . We let 4 mil a year go and now we are under the salary cap . Hines only lost his starting job last year and only because we have some studs at the position ... Why cant you understand that he would be a very nice assett to a young QB . There is more to being a wide out then the 40 yd dash . I cant remember a guy so fearless to go over the middle then him . What reciever blocks better than him downfield ? I know he isnt as good as he was but he still is NFL worthy and a team will pick him up . Try making an argument on your position next time instead of insulting me . Stick with the facts or the issue at hand.
And I played high school and college football. And I highly doubt you "forgot more about football than I'll ever know." I highly doubt that.
Do you want me to list all the receivers he's not better than? That's a pretty long list. This isn't 2004 buddy. And I mentioned the fact that he lost his job because Wallace, Sanders, and Brown are studs. If Hines was still the #1, the Steelers offense would NOT be explosive. Yeah, he's nice to have to block or to go over the middle, but at some point he needs to make huge plays and he can NOT do that ANYMORE. The fact of the matter, the biggest asset he is, is as a mentor. He might as well just become a damn coach.

hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Mar 2, 2012 10:36am
andre johnson
roddy white
greg jennings
hakeem nicks
calvin johnson
larry fitzgerald
mike wallace
vincent jackson
miles austin
desean jackson
dez bryant
dwayne bowe
mike williams(TB and SEA)
jeremy maclin
colston
lloyd
holmes
britt
wayne
stevie j
percy
welker
mario
boldin
sidney
santana
steve smith(both)
aj green
knox
malcom floyd
mike thomas
austin collie
ochocinco
lance moore
roy williams(and this one is sad because he sucks)
jordy nelson
meachem
garcon
braylon
julio jones
lee evans
and those are basially the "easy" picks. i'll name some 2nd and 3rd stringers i'd take over hines right now:
laurant robinson
cotchery
edelman
kyle williams (SF) - even though he fucked up in the NFC championship
eric decker
heyward-bey
torrey smith
eddie royal
ben obomanu
riley ooper
vincent brown
and i could keep going.
your argument: "hines can still be an asset. he's fearless. i slobber on his knob. he was great."
my argument: his only asset is now as a coach. might as well just retire and join the squad.
roddy white
greg jennings
hakeem nicks
calvin johnson
larry fitzgerald
mike wallace
vincent jackson
miles austin
desean jackson
dez bryant
dwayne bowe
mike williams(TB and SEA)
jeremy maclin
colston
lloyd
holmes
britt
wayne
stevie j
percy
welker
mario
boldin
sidney
santana
steve smith(both)
aj green
knox
malcom floyd
mike thomas
austin collie
ochocinco
lance moore
roy williams(and this one is sad because he sucks)
jordy nelson
meachem
garcon
braylon
julio jones
lee evans
and those are basially the "easy" picks. i'll name some 2nd and 3rd stringers i'd take over hines right now:
laurant robinson
cotchery
edelman
kyle williams (SF) - even though he fucked up in the NFC championship
eric decker
heyward-bey
torrey smith
eddie royal
ben obomanu
riley ooper
vincent brown
and i could keep going.
your argument: "hines can still be an asset. he's fearless. i slobber on his knob. he was great."
my argument: his only asset is now as a coach. might as well just retire and join the squad.
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Gblock
Mar 2, 2012 10:44am
braylon edwards=FAIL
Lee Evans=FAIL
Lee Evans=FAIL