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MontyBrunswick
Feb 23, 2012 6:38pm
Jack Johnson seems pretty innocent to me.Thinthickbigred;1093796 wrote:You pick here is ten
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Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Feb 23, 2012 8:33pm
James J Braddock. Duh.
No but seriously its Ali.
No but seriously its Ali.
password
Posts: 2,360
Feb 23, 2012 9:03pm
In an actual fight I would put Bruce Lee up against any of the MMA fighters and Boxers.robj55;1093929 wrote:You missed my point again lol, I can name several MMA fighters who would put an ass whooping on these heavyweights in an actual fight which is what you asked, who is the best HW FIGHTER of all time. There are better fighters than boxers.
The greatest boxer of all time would be Ali and the toughest would be Tyson.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 23, 2012 9:12pm
You would put a 135 lb man who couldn't grapple against a 230 lb man who knew all the martial arts and trained in them all?password;1094243 wrote:In an actual fight I would put Bruce Lee up against any of the MMA fighters and Boxers.
The greatest boxer of all time would be Ali and the toughest would be Tyson.
The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
Feb 23, 2012 9:36pm
Tyson Pre-King. When the old man ran the show and kept his head on straight he was a machine.
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Feb 23, 2012 9:47pm
No way, Bruce Lee gets destroyed by modern fighters, especially bigger ones.password;1094243 wrote:In an actual fight I would put Bruce Lee up against any of the MMA fighters and Boxers.
The greatest boxer of all time would be Ali and the toughest would be Tyson.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 23, 2012 9:52pm
thank youZoltan;1094285 wrote:No way, Bruce Lee gets destroyed by modern fighters, especially bigger ones.
password
Posts: 2,360
Feb 23, 2012 10:16pm
Yes I would. Why would he have to grapple with them, it is a fight. So, now all the MMA fighters are better trained in martial arts than Bruce Lee?robj55;1094256 wrote:You would put a 135 lb man who couldn't grapple against a 230 lb man who knew all the martial arts and trained in them all?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 23, 2012 10:18pm
Once they got their hands on him it would be over, this is a different era. I have heard and read from many sources that Bruce Lee would not even be able to compete in an organization like the UFC.password;1094305 wrote:Yes I would. Why would he have to grapple with them, it is a fight. So, now all the MMA fighters are better trained in martial arts than Bruce Lee?
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Feb 23, 2012 10:49pm
I thought more of you people for sure would have put Rocky on here
password
Posts: 2,360
Feb 23, 2012 11:08pm
It is just my opinion. I think they would have a hard time touching him before he knocked them out, but you are right if they got a hold of him, it might be trouble, not sure for who.robj55;1094310 wrote:Once they got their hands on him it would be over, this is a different era. I have heard and read from many sources that Bruce Lee would not even be able to compete in an organization like the UFC.
Here is a little story about him you might want to read, very interesting.
http://www.mikementzer.com/blee.html
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Feb 23, 2012 11:18pm
Klitcjiko sp?
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Feb 24, 2012 1:50am
I believe thinthick meant "BOXING", not kickboxing or mma. So based off of this I would say Ali. For the MMA fans, of course in the MMA world an MMA fighter would beat a boxer but in my opinion the boxers would win against the mma fighters in a boxing match.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Feb 24, 2012 2:29am
That's really a good idea.password;1094243 wrote:In an actual fight I would put Bruce Lee up against any of the MMA fighters and Boxers.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 24, 2012 4:50am
Chuck Norris
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Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Feb 24, 2012 8:10am
Its OBVIOUS he meant boxing but of course Robj decided 2 be a douche about it. Ill go with Ali.rmolin73;1094405 wrote:I believe thinthick meant "BOXING", not kickboxing or mma.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Feb 24, 2012 8:58am
Bruce Lee could land a devastating punch with AN INCH of room. Yea good luck trying to grapple him.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Feb 24, 2012 10:47am
I don't doubt Bruce Lee was bad ass, but he was a movie star. You don't think there is a difference between fighting in movies and MMA?Y-Town Steelhound;1094495 wrote:Bruce Lee could land a devastating punch with AN INCH of room. Yea good luck trying to grapple him.
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Feb 24, 2012 12:49pm
Dude Bruce Lee was kicking dudes asses in street fights long before he started acting. That's why his parents sent him to the US.FatHobbit;1094590 wrote:I don't doubt Bruce Lee was bad ass, but he was a movie star. You don't think there is a difference between fighting in movies and MMA?
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Feb 24, 2012 12:51pm
If you ever watch the UFC, those are the best fighters in the world, fighting with the best styles and tactics in the world. There has been a huge evolution in the last 20 years with people starting to integrate boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, BJJ, Judo, etc.
password
Posts: 2,360
Feb 24, 2012 12:53pm
He was the real deal. You are saying because he did a couple of movies showing his abilities, he was not real? You should read some articles about him and you will understand.FatHobbit;1094590 wrote:I don't doubt Bruce Lee was bad ass, but he was a movie star. You don't think there is a difference between fighting in movies and MMA?
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Feb 24, 2012 1:15pm
wtf, time for you to leave the thread and never talk about Bruce Lee againFatHobbit;1094590 wrote:I don't doubt Bruce Lee was bad ass, but he was a movie star. You don't think there is a difference between fighting in movies and MMA?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeet_Kune_Do
He combined many martial art styles, techniques, philosophy and made them into one called Jeet Kune Do
Movie stars don't just come around and make their own fucking martial arts system
He was a master of martial arts, none of these mma guys are even close to his level
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Feb 24, 2012 1:19pm
Yes. Lee was a pioneer but the sport has far surpassed where it was.password;1094305 wrote:Yes I would. Why would he have to grapple with them, it is a fight. So, now all the MMA fighters are better trained in martial arts than Bruce Lee?
If we transplanted a living Bruce to today and let him train I'm sure he would excel. But if we just straight up took the Bruce from back then and put him up against today's fighters he would be beaten handily.
password
Posts: 2,360
Feb 24, 2012 1:33pm
I Wear Pants;1094702 wrote:Yes. Lee was a pioneer but the sport has far surpassed where it was.
If we transplanted a living Bruce to today and let him train I'm sure he would excel. But if we just straight up took the Bruce from back then and put him up against today's fighters he would be beaten handily.
I don't agree, but that is just my opinion. You are not talking about some golf competition where the high tech golf club has made guys better, by the way I think golf is a joke anyway. What has changed when it comes to a fight? His power and speed are still unmatched, peole are still trying to duplicate what he was able to do and still can't do it, so I think he still wins.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Feb 24, 2012 1:38pm
That makes sense. We can see how well street fighting prepared Kimbo Slice for MMA.rmolin73;1094681 wrote:Dude Bruce Lee was kicking dudes asses in street fights long before he started acting. That's why his parents sent him to the US.
Bruce Lee would have gotten his ass kicked by even a little guy like Royce Gracie.
You have no idea what you are talking about.2quik4u;1094701 wrote: He was a master of martial arts, none of these mma guys are even close to his level