Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 2, 2012 7:03pm
Don't look now but here comes Tampa bay. They were down 31-13 with 6 min to go its not 31-23 with 2:30 to go
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Dec 2, 2012 7:10pm
Denver clinches AFC West, Houston clinches playoff spot... so NE, DEN, HOU in already
Atlanta clinches NFC south, only team in on that side
Atlanta clinches NFC south, only team in on that side
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 2, 2012 7:14pm
RG3 has definitely been better than luck. Also, Luck is nowhere near the MVP convo.SportsAndLady;1334797 wrote:Nooo..mayyyybe rg3 but Wilson? He's been pretty good for a rookie, but Luck is approaching MVP consideration.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 2, 2012 7:19pm
Just remember the Colts were 1-15 last year.Rotinaj;1335025 wrote:RG3 has definitely been better than luck. Also, Luck is nowhere near the MVP convo.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 2, 2012 7:21pm
When you compare the teams, its debatable. Numbers RG3 looks better. But the Colts are horribly on the line and rookies EVERYWHERE but Wayne.Rotinaj;1335025 wrote:RG3 has definitely been better than luck. Also, Luck is nowhere near the MVP convo.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 2, 2012 7:25pm
With probably the worst qb in the last 10 years starting.Pick6;1335035 wrote:Just remember the Colts were 1-15 last year.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 2, 2012 7:27pm
Let's all take a moment and tell Norv and Rivers to GTFO.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 2, 2012 7:32pm
They're this year's version of the 2011 Bengals. Only 1 win against a team above .500. Everyone knows they aren't really a legit team.Pick6;1335035 wrote:Just remember the Colts were 1-15 last year.
RGIII has a rookie RB too, and he's been throwing to Joshua Morgan and Leonard Hankerson all year. The Colts TEs may be rookies, but they're both better than Logan Paulsen.Laley23;1335042 wrote:When you compare the teams, its debatable. Numbers RG3 looks better. But the Colts are horribly on the line and rookies EVERYWHERE but Wayne.
I would say Luck definitely has better weapons in the passing game (especially when Garcon wasn't healthy).
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 2, 2012 7:32pm
Ironman92;1335056 wrote:Let's all take a moment and tell Norv and Rivers to GTFO.
That play calling at the end made lane kiffin and shurmur look good.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 2, 2012 7:38pm
RG3 is sexier than Luck too...and has a bigger unit. /saidoutta'dMulva;1335066 wrote:They're this year's version of the 2011 Bengals. Only 1 win against a team above .500. Everyone knows they aren't really a legit team.
RGIII has a rookie RB too, and he's been throwing to Joshua Morgan and Leonard Hankerson all year. The Colts TEs may be rookies, but they're both better than Logan Paulsen.
I would say Luck definitely has better weapons in the passing game (especially when Garcon wasn't healthy).
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 2, 2012 7:40pm
wes_mantooth;1335073 wrote:RG3 is sexier than Luck too...and has a bigger unit. /saidoutta'd
Lol reps to you
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Dec 2, 2012 7:48pm
Luck looks like he just got thawed out of a block of ice. He's the real deal though.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Dec 2, 2012 7:50pm
Yep. He might not win ROY but there isnt a QB in this class that I'm taking over him for the rest of their careerskiller_ewok;1335085 wrote:Luck looks like he just got thawed out of a block of ice. He's the real deal though.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Dec 2, 2012 7:52pm
Mulva;1335066 wrote:They're this year's version of the 2011 Bengals. Only 1 win against a team above .500. Everyone knows they aren't really a legit team.
RGIII has a rookie RB too, and he's been throwing to Joshua Morgan and Leonard Hankerson all year. The Colts TEs may be rookies, but they're both better than Logan Paulsen.
I would say Luck definitely has better weapons in the passing game (especially when Garcon wasn't healthy).
I read an article awhile back that basically showed Luck is having the better year despite having worse numbers. Has to do with how far his passes travel in the air along with lowest % of passes to RBs and passes behind line of scrimmage. Essentially there is a much higher degree of difficulty to Lucks offense.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 2, 2012 8:00pm
Soooo. The same as RG3 and the Skins??? (I think they win tomorrow though...lol). The same as the Bears (whose only win against an over .500 team was Lucks very first game as a pro versus the Colts.)Mulva;1335066 wrote:They're this year's version of the 2011 Bengals. Only 1 win against a team above .500. Everyone knows they aren't really a legit team.
Look, I think the schedule plays a HUGE part in wins and losses, obviously. But at the same time...its the NFL. They are all good. And the Skins and Colts are playing a similar schedule based on where the teams finished (though NFC E>>>AFC S). Your record is what your record is, especially this late in the year. Colts are 8-4 and have (essentially) a 2 game lead on the WC spot.
Most impressive, and it has a LOT to do with Luck if youve seen all the games, they are 8-1 in 1 possession games.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 2, 2012 8:02pm
No question Bruce A has him running the entire playbook. Colts go downfield more than most teams in the NFL, it seems. Very few dink and dunks. They are vertical and no gimmick (not that RG3 is gimmick, but they run shorter routes, for sure).Terry_Tate;1335089 wrote:I read an article awhile back that basically showed Luck is having the better year despite having worse numbers. Has to do with how far his passes travel in the air along with lowest % of passes to RBs and passes behind line of scrimmage. Essentially there is a much higher degree of difficulty to Lucks offense.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 2, 2012 8:07pm
Laley23;1335097 wrote:Soooo. The same as RG3 and the Skins??? (I think they win tomorrow though...lol). The same as the Bears (whose only win against an over .500 team was Lucks very first game as a pro versus the Colts.)
Look, I think the schedule plays a HUGE part in wins and losses, obviously. But at the same time...its the NFL. They are all good. And the Skins and Colts are playing a similar schedule based on where the teams finished (though NFC E>>>AFC S). Your record is what your record is, especially this late in the year. Colts are 8-4 and have (essentially) a 2 game lead on the WC spot.
Most impressive, and it has a LOT to do with Luck if youve seen all the games, they are 8-1 in 1 possession games.
I'm not calling RGIII an MVP candidate either, to be fair. My point was there shouldn't be any way Luck even sniffs the MVP voting just because of the Colts record. His numbers don't back it up.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 2, 2012 8:09pm
Oh God, I agree lol. I dont know why S&L thinks that. I was just comparing the two individually. Not MVP conversation lol.Mulva;1335100 wrote:I'm not calling RGIII an MVP candidate either, to be fair. My point was there shouldn't be any way Luck even sniffs the MVP voting just because of the Colts record. His numbers don't back it up.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 2, 2012 8:17pm
From 1-15 to 8-4. He's pretty damn valuable. And I'm not saying he's going to win MVP, more that he'll be in the talks.Laley23;1335104 wrote:Oh God, I agree lol. I dont know why S&L thinks that. I was just comparing the two individually. Not MVP conversation lol.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 2, 2012 8:19pm
Slight change of topic.
Faith Hill has sensational legs.
SNF ready for kickoff.
Faith Hill has sensational legs.
SNF ready for kickoff.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 2, 2012 8:21pm
yes, yes she does.Ironman92;1335113 wrote:Slight change of topic.
Faith Hill has sensational legs.
SNF ready for kickoff.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 2, 2012 8:22pm
The Bengals might be clearing a nice path for Pittsburgh.
Bengals beat San Diego, knocking them out. The Steelers get the Chargers next week.
Bengals play Dallas, if they win, they essentially knock Dallas out (for sure if they lose this week). The Steelers get the Cowboys in 2 weeks.
Bengals beat San Diego, knocking them out. The Steelers get the Chargers next week.
Bengals play Dallas, if they win, they essentially knock Dallas out (for sure if they lose this week). The Steelers get the Cowboys in 2 weeks.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 2, 2012 8:33pm
Azubuike24;1335120 wrote:The Bengals might be clearing a nice path for Pittsburgh.
Bengals beat San Diego, knocking them out. The Steelers get the Chargers next week.
Bengals play Dallas, if they win, they essentially knock Dallas out (for sure if they lose this week). The Steelers get the Cowboys in 2 weeks.
Would be more than a trade off for the Bengals to get Baltimore playing for nothing the final week.
The Cowboys hosting the Steelers will be a slobber-knocker regardless of records.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 2, 2012 9:29pm
Dez Bryant...Damn
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 2, 2012 9:30pm
Azubuike24;1335120 wrote:The Bengals might be clearing a nice path for Pittsburgh.
Bengals beat San Diego, knocking them out. The Steelers get the Chargers next week.
Bengals play Dallas, if they win, they essentially knock Dallas out (for sure if they lose this week). The Steelers get the Cowboys in 2 weeks.
Philly may take care of Dallas's chances before the Bengals get them.