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Dec 3, 2012 12:03 AM
Don't look now but here comes Tampa bay. They were down 31-13 with 6 min to go its not 31-23 with 2:30 to go
Dec 2, 2012 7:03pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:10 AM
Denver clinches AFC West, Houston clinches playoff spot... so NE, DEN, HOU in already

Atlanta clinches NFC south, only team in on that side
Dec 2, 2012 7:10pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:14 AM
SportsAndLady;1334797 wrote:Nooo..mayyyybe rg3 but Wilson? He's been pretty good for a rookie, but Luck is approaching MVP consideration.
RG3 has definitely been better than luck. Also, Luck is nowhere near the MVP convo.
Dec 2, 2012 7:14pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:19 AM
Rotinaj;1335025 wrote:RG3 has definitely been better than luck. Also, Luck is nowhere near the MVP convo.
Just remember the Colts were 1-15 last year.
Dec 2, 2012 7:19pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:21 AM
Rotinaj;1335025 wrote:RG3 has definitely been better than luck. Also, Luck is nowhere near the MVP convo.
When you compare the teams, its debatable. Numbers RG3 looks better. But the Colts are horribly on the line and rookies EVERYWHERE but Wayne.
Dec 2, 2012 7:21pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:25 AM
Pick6;1335035 wrote:Just remember the Colts were 1-15 last year.
With probably the worst qb in the last 10 years starting.
Dec 2, 2012 7:25pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:27 AM
Let's all take a moment and tell Norv and Rivers to GTFO.
Dec 2, 2012 7:27pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:32 AM
Pick6;1335035 wrote:Just remember the Colts were 1-15 last year.
They're this year's version of the 2011 Bengals. Only 1 win against a team above .500. Everyone knows they aren't really a legit team.
Laley23;1335042 wrote:When you compare the teams, its debatable. Numbers RG3 looks better. But the Colts are horribly on the line and rookies EVERYWHERE but Wayne.
RGIII has a rookie RB too, and he's been throwing to Joshua Morgan and Leonard Hankerson all year. The Colts TEs may be rookies, but they're both better than Logan Paulsen.

I would say Luck definitely has better weapons in the passing game (especially when Garcon wasn't healthy).
Dec 2, 2012 7:32pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:32 AM
Ironman92;1335056 wrote:Let's all take a moment and tell Norv and Rivers to GTFO.

That play calling at the end made lane kiffin and shurmur look good.
Dec 2, 2012 7:32pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:38 AM
Mulva;1335066 wrote:They're this year's version of the 2011 Bengals. Only 1 win against a team above .500. Everyone knows they aren't really a legit team.



RGIII has a rookie RB too, and he's been throwing to Joshua Morgan and Leonard Hankerson all year. The Colts TEs may be rookies, but they're both better than Logan Paulsen.

I would say Luck definitely has better weapons in the passing game (especially when Garcon wasn't healthy).
RG3 is sexier than Luck too...and has a bigger unit. /saidoutta'd
Dec 2, 2012 7:38pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:40 AM
wes_mantooth;1335073 wrote:RG3 is sexier than Luck too...and has a bigger unit. /saidoutta'd

Lol reps to you
Dec 2, 2012 7:40pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:48 AM
Luck looks like he just got thawed out of a block of ice. He's the real deal though.
Dec 2, 2012 7:48pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:50 AM
killer_ewok;1335085 wrote:Luck looks like he just got thawed out of a block of ice. He's the real deal though.
Yep. He might not win ROY but there isnt a QB in this class that I'm taking over him for the rest of their careers
Dec 2, 2012 7:50pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:52 AM
Mulva;1335066 wrote:They're this year's version of the 2011 Bengals. Only 1 win against a team above .500. Everyone knows they aren't really a legit team.



RGIII has a rookie RB too, and he's been throwing to Joshua Morgan and Leonard Hankerson all year. The Colts TEs may be rookies, but they're both better than Logan Paulsen.

I would say Luck definitely has better weapons in the passing game (especially when Garcon wasn't healthy).

I read an article awhile back that basically showed Luck is having the better year despite having worse numbers. Has to do with how far his passes travel in the air along with lowest % of passes to RBs and passes behind line of scrimmage. Essentially there is a much higher degree of difficulty to Lucks offense.
Dec 2, 2012 7:52pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:00 AM
Mulva;1335066 wrote:They're this year's version of the 2011 Bengals. Only 1 win against a team above .500. Everyone knows they aren't really a legit team.
Soooo. The same as RG3 and the Skins??? (I think they win tomorrow though...lol). The same as the Bears (whose only win against an over .500 team was Lucks very first game as a pro versus the Colts.)

Look, I think the schedule plays a HUGE part in wins and losses, obviously. But at the same time...its the NFL. They are all good. And the Skins and Colts are playing a similar schedule based on where the teams finished (though NFC E>>>AFC S). Your record is what your record is, especially this late in the year. Colts are 8-4 and have (essentially) a 2 game lead on the WC spot.

Most impressive, and it has a LOT to do with Luck if youve seen all the games, they are 8-1 in 1 possession games.
Dec 2, 2012 8:00pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:02 AM
Terry_Tate;1335089 wrote:I read an article awhile back that basically showed Luck is having the better year despite having worse numbers. Has to do with how far his passes travel in the air along with lowest % of passes to RBs and passes behind line of scrimmage. Essentially there is a much higher degree of difficulty to Lucks offense.
No question Bruce A has him running the entire playbook. Colts go downfield more than most teams in the NFL, it seems. Very few dink and dunks. They are vertical and no gimmick (not that RG3 is gimmick, but they run shorter routes, for sure).
Dec 2, 2012 8:02pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:07 AM
Laley23;1335097 wrote:Soooo. The same as RG3 and the Skins??? (I think they win tomorrow though...lol). The same as the Bears (whose only win against an over .500 team was Lucks very first game as a pro versus the Colts.)

Look, I think the schedule plays a HUGE part in wins and losses, obviously. But at the same time...its the NFL. They are all good. And the Skins and Colts are playing a similar schedule based on where the teams finished (though NFC E>>>AFC S). Your record is what your record is, especially this late in the year. Colts are 8-4 and have (essentially) a 2 game lead on the WC spot.

Most impressive, and it has a LOT to do with Luck if youve seen all the games, they are 8-1 in 1 possession games.

I'm not calling RGIII an MVP candidate either, to be fair. My point was there shouldn't be any way Luck even sniffs the MVP voting just because of the Colts record. His numbers don't back it up.
Dec 2, 2012 8:07pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:09 AM
Mulva;1335100 wrote:I'm not calling RGIII an MVP candidate either, to be fair. My point was there shouldn't be any way Luck even sniffs the MVP voting just because of the Colts record. His numbers don't back it up.
Oh God, I agree lol. I dont know why S&L thinks that. I was just comparing the two individually. Not MVP conversation lol.
Dec 2, 2012 8:09pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:17 AM
Laley23;1335104 wrote:Oh God, I agree lol. I dont know why S&L thinks that. I was just comparing the two individually. Not MVP conversation lol.
From 1-15 to 8-4. He's pretty damn valuable. And I'm not saying he's going to win MVP, more that he'll be in the talks.
Dec 2, 2012 8:17pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:19 AM
Slight change of topic.

Faith Hill has sensational legs.

SNF ready for kickoff.
Dec 2, 2012 8:19pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:21 AM
Ironman92;1335113 wrote:Slight change of topic.

Faith Hill has sensational legs.

SNF ready for kickoff.
yes, yes she does.
Dec 2, 2012 8:21pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:22 AM
The Bengals might be clearing a nice path for Pittsburgh.

Bengals beat San Diego, knocking them out. The Steelers get the Chargers next week.

Bengals play Dallas, if they win, they essentially knock Dallas out (for sure if they lose this week). The Steelers get the Cowboys in 2 weeks.
Dec 2, 2012 8:22pm
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Dec 3, 2012 1:33 AM
Azubuike24;1335120 wrote:The Bengals might be clearing a nice path for Pittsburgh.

Bengals beat San Diego, knocking them out. The Steelers get the Chargers next week.

Bengals play Dallas, if they win, they essentially knock Dallas out (for sure if they lose this week). The Steelers get the Cowboys in 2 weeks.

Would be more than a trade off for the Bengals to get Baltimore playing for nothing the final week.

The Cowboys hosting the Steelers will be a slobber-knocker regardless of records.
Dec 2, 2012 8:33pm
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Dec 3, 2012 2:29 AM
Dez Bryant...Damn
Dec 2, 2012 9:29pm
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Dec 3, 2012 2:30 AM
Azubuike24;1335120 wrote:The Bengals might be clearing a nice path for Pittsburgh.

Bengals beat San Diego, knocking them out. The Steelers get the Chargers next week.

Bengals play Dallas, if they win, they essentially knock Dallas out (for sure if they lose this week). The Steelers get the Cowboys in 2 weeks.

Philly may take care of Dallas's chances before the Bengals get them.
Dec 2, 2012 9:30pm