karen lotz
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Feb 21, 2012 8:12pm
karen lotz has reported a post.
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Forum: College Football
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Post: Notre Dame 2012Troll
Forum: College Football
Assigned Moderators: Fab1b, Trueblue23
Posted by: vball10set
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19964+karen lotz;1092296 wrote:Do you have anything of any relevance to add to the conversation about Notre Dame or are you going to continue with your trolling?
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 9:14pm
That thread has turned into a wreck.
I seriously have no idea what to do. Ohio State and Notre Dame fans here have shown that they are just too goddamn dumb to post normally on one anothers' threads. How in the hell do you fix full retard?
I seriously have no idea what to do. Ohio State and Notre Dame fans here have shown that they are just too goddamn dumb to post normally on one anothers' threads. How in the hell do you fix full retard?
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 9:17pm
I would shut the thread down and start a new one.....with a stern "no tolerance"warning to everyone.
wildcats20
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Feb 21, 2012 9:18pm
We need to actually start enforcing the rules. The basement is a joke and needs to be gone. There is no point in having rules if all we are going to do is put people in the basement.
It's basically giving a kid an ice cream cone while in timeout.
If they break a rule, give an infraction. If they are trolling, give them a troll point infraction. Whenever it gets to the magic number(which should be NO more than 2 IMO), give them a vacation. If they come back and do it again, permaban.
It's basically giving a kid an ice cream cone while in timeout.
If they break a rule, give an infraction. If they are trolling, give them a troll point infraction. Whenever it gets to the magic number(which should be NO more than 2 IMO), give them a vacation. If they come back and do it again, permaban.
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 9:23pm
Do we flat out not allow them to cross-post in another team's thread, or just go zero tolerance in anything remotely related to trolling?
I'd just give straight up infractions, the troll points have zero value unless Justin manually relegates them to the basement.
I'd just give straight up infractions, the troll points have zero value unless Justin manually relegates them to the basement.
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 9:26pm
Nah, just infract for anything and the retaliation. Shit needs straightened around in a hurry....that is why I went nuts on the obvious trolls
wildcats20
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Feb 21, 2012 9:26pm
I'd say allow them to post, just with zero tolerance.
I mean sometimes Skyhook would make decent points in Cavs threads. But then he would just be a dumb fuck and troll.
I mean sometimes Skyhook would make decent points in Cavs threads. But then he would just be a dumb fuck and troll.
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 9:28pm
I'd agree. Lotz is a good example in CFB too... he legitimately does like to talk about all of the teams in general, but it's 50/50 on whether he'll post normal or sneak in a snide comment to start the shitstorm.wildcats20;1092388 wrote:I'd say allow them to post, just with zero tolerance.
I mean sometimes Skyhook would make decent points in Cavs threads. But then he would just be a dumb fuck and troll.
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 9:30pm
ts1227;1092391 wrote:I'd agree. Lotz is a good example in CFB too... he legitimately does like to talk about all of the teams in general, but it's 50/50 on whether he'll post normal or sneak in a snide comment to start the shitstorm.
Exactly....when he does, infraction.
Then we need to infract the people that tear into him....sucks, but we need to clean it up some
wildcats20
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Feb 21, 2012 9:31pm
Exactly.wes_mantooth;1092394 wrote:Exactly....when he does, infraction.
Then we need to infract the people that tear into him....sucks, but we need to clean it up some
And it needs to be done across the board. Serious Business included.
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 9:32pm
I'm going to sticky a general warning shot to the CFB (and maybe CBB?) forum, basically saying if you have nothing nice to say, return to your own teams' thread. If you choose to continue on, it'll lead to immediate infractions, repeating = bans.
I'll also reset that ND thread with a warning shot fired in the first post of the new one too
I'll also reset that ND thread with a warning shot fired in the first post of the new one too
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 9:34pm
yeah, good ideats1227;1092397 wrote:I'm going to sticky a general warning shot to the CFB (and maybe CBB?) forum, basically saying if you have nothing nice to say, return to your own teams' thread. If you choose to continue on, it'll lead to immediate infractions, relepating = bans.
I'll also reset that ND thread with a warning shot fired in the first post of the new one too
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 9:36pm
Yeah, if you guys see posts that are sketchy in there....report them so the rest of us see them. I would rather mods report them....especially since I am guilty of not reading very many threads.wildcats20;1092396 wrote:Exactly.
And it needs to be done across the board. Serious Business included.
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 9:48pm
How is this?
dear CFB posters, GFY, kthxbai wrote:This forum has pretty much become unreadable since you all just choose to attack one another instead of have discussion. Considering it's the OFFSEASON, this is sad. Obviously there is going to, and there should be some banter and disagreements between rivals, but you all either take it too seriously or have an amazingly easy defense mechanism to trigger.
From this point forward, you can expect a more aggressive enforcement of the existing rules. Here's what is expected to keep discussions on here tolerable:
We expect you will post on the threads of other teams beside yours, as we are mostly all fans of college football in general. HOWEVER, if you are going over simply to cause trouble or make a post that is obviously meant to push the buttons of another fanbase, the post will be immediately removed, you will be thread banned, and you will receive an infraction. It's simple... if you don't have anything nice to say, just retreat back to your teams' thread and don't say it at all.
On that note, for the more sensitive posters, the mere presence of a fan of another team on your thread is NOT trolling. There is an obvious difference between general posting, lighthearted rivalry jabs, and then the crap you all pull on OSU/ND threads.
If you continue to cause problems, the infractions will result in bans, and if it would keep going, the bans will just get longer and longer.
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 9:49pm
looks good
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 9:52pm
also, I would sticky it, but lock it up. We don't need everyone telling us of how they aren't doing anything.
Fab1b
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Feb 21, 2012 9:53pm
I know I am in the minority here but do any of us really expect it to stop? We can infract, ban, dah dah dah, however they will either leave and more people will follow because we are becoming harsh like JJ's or they will come back with a vengance! Now I don't know about you guys but I don't have the time to deal and go through these threads and infract/ban all day long. I have always said keep the HS stuff seperate and clean, the others leave it to no porn, gore, racism, sexism, stuff like that. They are grown people's forums and if they can't take the heat get out the kitchen, people need to use their ignore list, etc....or just flat out ignore posters, stop baiting trolls and read and reply to post relevant to the their thoughts. I hate banning and even infracting, as you can see I've hardly done it, but I think we need let be people be grown and if they can't deal with the a post on an internet forum, then GTFO!!
Hell does anyone think that if they are allowed to troll, etc...it won't actually be fun? Their fun comes when we get involved!
Hell does anyone think that if they are allowed to troll, etc...it won't actually be fun? Their fun comes when we get involved!
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 9:53pm
Good idea, because we don't fucking carewes_mantooth;1092424 wrote:also, I would sticky it, but lock it up. We don't need everyone telling us of how they aren't doing anything.
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 9:56pm
I remember when we had this discussion before the season, and most of the mods agreed with you. After this season I think you may have lost your fanbase. We can sit back and hope that one day they grow up, but after 2 years of that not working whatsoever and the thing going completely to shit, we have to at least make a damn effort. It's easy to say "man up", but no one's going to.Fab1b;1092425 wrote:I know I am in the minority here but do any of us really expect it to stop? We can infract, ban, dah dah dah, however they will either leave and more people will follow because we are becoming harsh like JJ's or they will come back with a vengance! Now I don't know about you guys but I don't have the time to deal and go through these threads and infract/ban all day long. I have always said keep the HS stuff seperate and clean, the others leave it to no porn, gore, racism, sexism, stuff like that. They are grown people's forums and if they can't take the heat get out the kitchen, people need to use their ignore list, etc....or just flat out ignore posters, stop baiting trolls and read and reply to post relevant to the their thoughts. I hate banning and even infracting, as you can see I've hardly done it, but I think we need let be people be grown and if they can't deal with the a post on an internet forum, then GTFO!!
Also, it would be just actually enforcing our existing rules that we were lazy as hell about in the past, it's not like we made anything up.
Fab1b
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Feb 21, 2012 10:00pm
I just don't see the problem with it I guess, I mean yes there are things over the line we need to get on top of, but simple trolling, razzing one another, etc....seriously?? It's the fucking internet! God damn people take this place and forums way too seriously!
OK end rant
do what you will I'll play along
OK end rant
do what you will I'll play along
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 10:03pm
lol, I agree they take it too seriously, but unfortunately there's nothing we can do about that.Fab1b;1092433 wrote:I just don't see the problem with it I guess, I mean yes there are things over the line we need to get on top of, but simple trolling, razzing one another, etc....seriously?? It's the fucking internet! God damn people take this place and forums way too seriously!
OK end rant
do what you will I'll play along
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 10:04pm
I am just hoping that if we ruffle feathers a little here...people won't be so quick to push the limits.
Fab1b
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Feb 21, 2012 10:06pm
I also then think we need to define what trolling offenses are, I mean there are people that report post as trolling for a view from the other side, a simple raz, they don't think that person's post adds anything to the thread, etc...
I mean lets say ND just gets blown out by a team and Sleeper goes in there and says see ND sucks, well heck he is right! But that would be trolling because it is sleeper, if I said ND sucks no one would probably throw a fit because I haven't done that. That is the type of shit that kills me here! I don't get pissed when OSU loses to SEC, etc...and I have to read all about it here!
Hell I think we should infract those that report stupid ass shit????
I mean lets say ND just gets blown out by a team and Sleeper goes in there and says see ND sucks, well heck he is right! But that would be trolling because it is sleeper, if I said ND sucks no one would probably throw a fit because I haven't done that. That is the type of shit that kills me here! I don't get pissed when OSU loses to SEC, etc...and I have to read all about it here!
Hell I think we should infract those that report stupid ass shit????
wes_mantooth
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Feb 21, 2012 10:09pm
I get sick of the reported shit...but no way would I infract them for it. I think this board just needs cleaned up a little...let people know that they can't just ruin every thread that they want to...it makes some threads unreadable. I don't even bother reading college forums because it is awful with the ND/OSU bullshit.Fab1b;1092444 wrote:I also then think we need to define what trolling offenses are, I mean there are people that report post as trolling for a view from the other side, a simple raz, they don't think that person's post adds anything to the thread, etc...
Hell I think we should infract those that report stupid ass shit????
ts1227
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Feb 21, 2012 10:10pm
I'd rather them overreport then try to handle it themselves. The overreporting doesn't bother me in the least (unless it's sleeper trolling the mods).
on Fab1's example... lets say ND loses by 50. I think there is a big difference between going over and saying "Holy shit, did they dress the cheerleaders?" and "HURRRRRR ND SUCKS". First one comes off as lighthearted to me, second one is obviously someone with the IQ of a brick looking for a rise.
on Fab1's example... lets say ND loses by 50. I think there is a big difference between going over and saying "Holy shit, did they dress the cheerleaders?" and "HURRRRRR ND SUCKS". First one comes off as lighthearted to me, second one is obviously someone with the IQ of a brick looking for a rise.