dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Feb 20, 2012 1:15pm
i think so as well. would probably be the best fit next to kyrie. i wouldn't rule out lamb either. sure he's not as good without a pg but we dont have to worry about that. dude was really good last season next to kembalhslep134;1091154 wrote:I think he's the best SG in the draft.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Feb 20, 2012 1:36pm
Or Zach Randolphrobj55;1091160 wrote:Sully is most comparable to Kevin Love
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Feb 20, 2012 1:37pm
Which Zach Randolph?thedynasty1998;1091182 wrote:Or Zach Randolph
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 20, 2012 1:44pm
Him too, not a great athlete, understands positioning and how to use his body. Great feet and hands, face up game with range, can pass the ball, fundamentally sound. Sully will be fine at the next level, he won't be facing double teams and the floor is spaced much better at the NBA level because of the three point line(23'9") and talent at every position on the floor which disallows the defenses to sag off. He will be productive right away.thedynasty1998;1091182 wrote:Or Zach Randolph
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Feb 20, 2012 1:51pm
I love Sully but I think Randolphs better at the offensive end.robj55;1091190 wrote:Him too, not a great athlete, understands positioning and how to use his body. Great feet and hands, face up game with range, can pass the ball, fundamentally sound. Sully will be fine at the next level, he won't be facing double teams and the floor is spaced much better at the NBA level because of the three point line(23'9") and talent at every position on the floor which disallows the defenses to sag off. He will be productive right away.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 20, 2012 1:52pm
Right now yes definitely, just making a comparison of similar styles. He reminds me of Love more than Randolph but Dynasty made a good comparison.KR1245;1091197 wrote:I love Sully but I think Randolphs better at the offensive end.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Feb 20, 2012 1:52pm
probably, but I'd say Sully is closer to a Randolph than a Big Baby.KR1245;1091197 wrote:I love Sully but I think Randolphs better at the offensive end.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Feb 20, 2012 1:56pm
I agree with that.Pick6;1091201 wrote:probably, but I'd say Sully is closer to a Randolph than a Big Baby.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 20, 2012 2:14pm
Randolph had more offense at MSU as a freshman than Sully does in college. Randolph has improved a lot, and Im sure Sully will as well. But at a similar age, Randolph was better (imo, by a decent amount) on the offensive end.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 20, 2012 2:15pm
Also, its pretty early to be talking about specific players. Because I have no clue who will be leaving nor where the Cavs will be drafting. But they need a SG and Wing in the worst way.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 20, 2012 2:33pm
I think he's a good player but a bad fit. He needs the ball to be effective offensively, and with Kyrie running the show that isn't going to happen.Hb31187;1091107 wrote:Whats wrong with Rivers? he has a tailor made NBA game and has enough height to run the 2 along with Irving at point
At this point I think I would more expect him to return to Duke for another season anyway.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Feb 20, 2012 2:46pm
As a freshman at MSU Randolph averaged 11 ppg and 7 ppg while shooting 59%. So I don't think it's fair to say Randolph was better at the same age. I have concerns with Sullinger and I think his max potential is Randolph, but I think it's the best comparison.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 20, 2012 2:56pm
I just think he was more rounded with post moves and face up. I remember he played a pretty big role for that MSU team to the FF. Much like Marvin Williams did. It isnt always about production. He played less than half the game. Sullinger has better footwork, better shot, and is just a better player at this age. But I dont see hardly ANY moves out of him. Randolph displayed an array in his 1 year at MSU.thedynasty1998;1091276 wrote:As a freshman at MSU Randolph averaged 11 ppg and 7 ppg while shooting 59%. So I don't think it's fair to say Randolph was better at the same age. I have concerns with Sullinger and I think his max potential is Randolph, but I think it's the best comparison.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Feb 20, 2012 3:10pm
I agree with that. But I do think Sullinger is smart and a worker. So I believe he will find a way to adapt his game at the next level and be effective.Laley23;1091282 wrote:I just think he was more rounded with post moves and face up. I remember he played a pretty big role for that MSU team to the FF. Much like Marvin Williams did. It isnt always about production. He played less than half the game. Sullinger has better footwork, better shot, and is just a better player at this age. But I dont see hardly ANY moves out of him. Randolph displayed an array in his 1 year at MSU.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 20, 2012 4:48pm
Just give me a scorer next to kyrie
ichsnjb
Posts: 285
Feb 20, 2012 5:16pm
Crimson streak;1091362 wrote:Just give me a scorer next to kyrie
Than Rivers is your answer.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 20, 2012 5:22pm
I also understand the lack of need for a PG in this draft. But in the 2nd round when everything is a crapshoot anyway, Id say take a flyer on Scott Machado of Iona or Damian Lillard of Weber State if either are still there. I think both have the games to be really solid back-up PGs for a long time in the league. Like a Speedy Claxton, Bobby Jackson, etc. Strong PG play is a big part of NBA 2nd teams, imo.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Feb 20, 2012 5:52pm
Thenichsnjb;1091379 wrote:Than Rivers is your answer.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Feb 20, 2012 7:04pm
I'm probably being a homer, but I would LOVE to see Thomas Robinson in a Cavs uniform next season. Kid is a beast and looks NBA ready to me.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 20, 2012 7:53pm
Cavs wont lose enough games to realistically be looking at Anthony Davis or T-Rob or etc.
Id exect them to (barring the lottery win) be picking around 10.
Id exect them to (barring the lottery win) be picking around 10.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Feb 20, 2012 8:08pm
Your forgetting David stern is the commish right? 
he will rig it
he will rig it
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Feb 21, 2012 12:51am
Under just about any other offensive scheme, I'd agree.. However, Byron likes to have two guards who can handle the ball in his princeton style of offense.Mulva;1091260 wrote:I think he's a good player but a bad fit. He needs the ball to be effective offensively, and with Kyrie running the show that isn't going to happen.
At this point I think I would more expect him to return to Duke for another season anyway.
I just think Austin is a horrible fit @ Duke, though he has been playing much better lately -- I think his game excels in the NBA.
He's probably not my 1st or 2nd choice, but I'm not going to be mad if we take him.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 21, 2012 7:52am
Why do you think he's a bad fit at Duke? Haven't seen many Duke games this season, so looking for some insight.