The Lebron James affect

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Feb 18, 2012 9:40am
GoPens;1089452 wrote:Then they should have just STFU instead of looking stupid like they do now.
Why do you care? It wouldnt be the first time somebody made a sports prediction that didn't pan out. I wonder if the 26 game losing streak or awful record had anything to do with the numbers dropping? If the Cavs have a solid draft and start winning the fans will return.
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Feb 18, 2012 10:05am
KR1245;1089456 wrote:Why do you care? It wouldnt be the first time somebody made a sports prediction that didn't pan out. I wonder if the 26 game losing streak or awful record had anything to do with the numbers dropping? If the Cavs have a solid draft and start winning the fans will return.
Definition of bandwagon fans.
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Feb 18, 2012 10:49am
Skyhook79;1089460 wrote:Definition of bandwagon fans.
Oh well

All the elite teams have them
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Feb 18, 2012 10:52am
KR1245;1089456 wrote:Why do you care? It wouldnt be the first time somebody made a sports prediction that didn't pan out. I wonder if the 26 game losing streak or awful record had anything to do with the numbers dropping? If the Cavs have a solid draft and start winning the fans will return.
Just friendly advice. Personally the delusional fans who said attendance wouldn't drop after Lebron left provided plenty of lulz.

These are the same fans who actually got their hopes up this week when Lebron said he could see himself returning to the Cavs...lol
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Feb 18, 2012 11:34am
GoPens;1089480 wrote:Just friendly advice. Personally the delusional fans who said attendance wouldn't drop after Lebron left provided plenty of lulz.

These are the same fans who actually got their hopes up this week when Lebron said he could see himself returning to the Cavs...lol
Got it. I dont know any fans that got their hopes up but I'll take your word for it
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Feb 18, 2012 12:03pm
KR1245;1089499 wrote:Got it. I dont know any fans that got their hopes up but I'll take your word for it
lol, yeah...I am pretty sure no one is buying anything that Lebron is selling. Also, I am sure there were a few, but why does everyone keep saying that most of the cavs fans said attendance wouldn't drop? I can't remember hardly anyone saying that....
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Feb 18, 2012 12:42pm
Thedyansty this years draft is actually no longer considered loaded. In fact most experts predict this to be one of the worst classes ever. This is mainly b/c there is virtually no overseas talent expected in this years draft. This leaves you with a top three of sullinger (will prolly be a good role player) barnes ( not a finished product but had upside) and Davis ( a freak).
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Feb 18, 2012 12:52pm
sportchampps;1089529 wrote:Thedyansty this years draft is actually no longer considered loaded. In fact most experts predict this to be one of the worst classes ever. This is mainly b/c there is virtually no overseas talent expected in this years draft. This leaves you with a top three of sullinger (will prolly be a good role player) barnes ( not a finished product but had upside) and Davis ( a freak).
I have to disagree with this.

This draft is going to be pretty solid.
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Feb 18, 2012 12:57pm
Skyhook79;1089196 wrote:Trailblazers sold out almost every game even when they sucked.
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You do realize the Trailblazers are the only major sports team in Portland/Oregon right?
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Feb 18, 2012 1:16pm
sportchampps;1089529 wrote:Thedyansty this years draft is actually no longer considered loaded. In fact most experts predict this to be one of the worst classes ever. This is mainly b/c there is virtually no overseas talent expected in this years draft.
I'm assuming this is sarcasm?

I haven't heard anybody who thinks this will be "one of the worst classes ever", and I'm not sure anybody has Sullinger in the top 3.
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Feb 18, 2012 1:16pm
sportchampps;1089529 wrote:Thedyansty this years draft is actually no longer considered loaded. In fact most experts predict this to be one of the worst classes ever. This is mainly b/c there is virtually no overseas talent expected in this years draft. This leaves you with a top three of sullinger (will prolly be a good role player) barnes ( not a finished product but had upside) and Davis ( a freak).

Lol @ you if you think that's gonna be.the top 3 drafted
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Feb 18, 2012 1:18pm
KR1245;1089456 wrote:Why do you care? It wouldnt be the first time somebody made a sports prediction that didn't pan out. I wonder if the 26 game losing streak or awful record had anything to do with the numbers dropping? If the Cavs have a solid draft and start winning the fans will return.
The prediction that attendance wouldn't drop was idiotic. Attendance will increase as the team improves, but it will never be at the Lebron era numbers. And there's nothing wrong with that.
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Feb 18, 2012 1:45pm
thedynasty1998;1089547 wrote:The prediction that attendance wouldn't drop was idiotic. Attendance will increase as the team improves, but it will never be at the Lebron era numbers. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm Ok with that. According to ESPN the Cavs are averaging about 16,000 a game. I'll take that when you compare it to where they were before Bron.
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Feb 18, 2012 4:15pm
KR1245;1089556 wrote:I'm Ok with that. According to ESPN the Cavs are averaging about 16,000 a game. I'll take that when you compare it to where they were before Bron.
I remember going to games in the Ricky Davis era and being apart of raucous crowds of under 10k...

A total rebuild and the Cavs are averaging 16K? That's fine with me. There were some people who thought attendance wouldn't drop, but there were also some who said it'd drop to how it was in the 90's and early 2000's...
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Feb 18, 2012 4:25pm
hoops23;1089619 wrote:I remember going to games in the Ricky Davis era and being apart of raucous crowds of under 10k...

A total rebuild and the Cavs are averaging 16K? That's fine with me. There were some people who thought attendance wouldn't drop, but there were also some who said it'd drop to how it was in the 90's and early 2000's...
Exactly. That was a horrible time to be a Cavs fan. Having to watch guys like Lamond Murray, Bobby Sura, Antonio Lang, Brevin Knight, Andrew Declerq etc...

I can remember being at games in the upper bowl and having ushers telling us to move down to the lower sections. That stuff doesnt happen anymore. I dont know if the Cavs will ever get back to the crowds of the Bron era but they're certainly on the right track
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Feb 18, 2012 5:18pm
hoops23;1089619 wrote:I remember going to games in the Ricky Davis era and being apart of raucous crowds of under 10k...

A total rebuild and the Cavs are averaging 16K? That's fine with me. There were some people who thought attendance wouldn't drop, but there were also some who said it'd drop to how it was in the 90's and early 2000's...
Yes there were but most of them (to my memory) said it would get to those levels (90's early 2000's) after 2-3 years of losing not after 1 year. I was in the camp of the attendance dropping significantly this year which it has. They have had 3-4 nights in the 12 to 13k range and that is not a good sign.
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Feb 18, 2012 5:32pm
Skyhook79;1089640 wrote:Yes there were but most of them (to my memory) said it would get to those levels (90's early 2000's) after 2-3 years of losing not after 1 year. I was in the camp of the attendance dropping significantly this year which it has. They have had 3-4 nights in the 12 to 13k range and that is not a good sign.
Not a good sign? Why not? Are the Cavs going to fold?

Stop trolling and just talk basketball for once. The Cavs attendance has dropped, but it's not that bad... They averaged a shade over 16K and have had some games over 17 and 18K as well...

It's not hurting Dan Gilbert nor the Cavs. They expected a drop off. Dan Gilbert has a couple of casino's opening up soon and he's already a billionaire... I think he's fine with 5K not showing up nightly.
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Feb 18, 2012 9:03pm
This draft is going to be loaded...far better than last year's draft. Sullinger in the top 3? He might not even go in the lottery...lots of players with booming stock who could move ahead of Jared. Even more if some guys don't stay back like many did a year ago.
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Feb 18, 2012 10:02pm
hoops23;1089648 wrote:Not a good sign? Why not? Are the Cavs going to fold?

Stop trolling and just talk basketball for once. The Cavs attendance has dropped, but it's not that bad... They averaged a shade over 16K and have had some games over 17 and 18K as well...

It's not hurting Dan Gilbert nor the Cavs. They expected a drop off. Dan Gilbert has a couple of casino's opening up soon and he's already a billionaire... I think he's fine with 5K not showing up nightly.

It has dropped about 25% in a year that is not good. It has nothing to do with whether Gilbert needs the money or not, he obviously doesn't, it has to do with the loyalty and fair weatherness of many Cavs fans. Look how many fewer Cavs fans post on here compared to previously. they start winning again and the board will be flooded with them.
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Feb 18, 2012 10:04pm
Skyhook79;1089772 wrote:It has dropped about 25% in a year that is not good. It has nothing to do with whether Gilbert needs the money or not, he obviously doesn't, it has to do with the loyalty and fair weatherness of many Cavs fans. Look how many fewer Cavs fans post on here compared to previously. they start winning again and the board will be flooded with them.
And if the Lakers were the Clippers you wouldn't like them.
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Feb 18, 2012 10:09pm
hoops23;1089774 wrote:And if the Lakers were the Clippers you wouldn't like them.
That makes no sense nor is it relevant.
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Feb 18, 2012 10:45pm
Skyhook79;1089787 wrote:That makes no sense nor is it relevant.
neither is anything you ever post...we'll call it a wash.

have never understood why you get so bent out of shape (other than to troll) about attendance but to each his own i guess. im going to enjoy the games and couldnt care less if the place is empty or full
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Feb 18, 2012 10:55pm
Skyhook79;1089787 wrote:That makes no sense nor is it relevant.
How does it not make sense? You continue to bring up "fair weather Cavs fans" and I mentioned that if the Lakers were the Clippers you wouldn't be a fan.

Is it hard to understand? That means you're a bandwagon fan. You have no ties to the Lakers.
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Feb 18, 2012 11:10pm
hoops23;1089941 wrote:How does it not make sense? You continue to bring up "fair weather Cavs fans" and I mentioned that if the Lakers were the Clippers you wouldn't be a fan.

Is it hard to understand? That means you're a bandwagon fan. You have no ties to the Lakers.
What "ties" do you have to the Cavs other than you happen to live in the same State they play in?
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Feb 18, 2012 11:13pm
Skyhook79;1089987 wrote:What "ties" do you have to the Cavs other than you happen to live in the same State they play in?
That would be 10 times the amount of ties you have to make you a Laker fan.