Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 13, 2012 3:40pm
"Apart from long-period comets, only four known objects have orbits which suggest that they may belong to the Oort cloud: 90377 Sedna, 2000 CR[SUB]105[/SUB], 2006 SQ[SUB]372[/SUB] and 2008 KV[SUB]42[/SUB]. The first two, unlike scattered disc objects, have perihelia outside the gravitational reach of Neptune, and thus their orbits cannot be explained by perturbations from the gas giant planets."jmog;1084821 wrote:You know the whole thought process behind how an "Ort Cloud" came to as a theory?
I wish I was kidding.
"The Universe is 4.5 billion years old, comets can only survive for at most 10,000-20,000 years, and we still have comets. So, they must be created somewhere."
Jan Ort is the one that first had this idea, so it is called an Ort Cloud.
No scientific basis behind the theory at all, just conjecture and logic.
You have outdated info.
SnotBubbles
Posts: 4,492
Feb 13, 2012 3:42pm
I'm not denying that. I just hope I figure it out before I die if there is a God.jmog;1084834 wrote:You can ask the same question about what started the "Big Bang" in the atheistic view. What made the bang happen and how did the original material/energy get there?
To be honest, in the end believing in a supreme being that started it all and believing that it all came from nothing requires the same level of "faith" no matter how much many want to deny it.
Let's face it. Life makes no fucking sense anyway you look at it.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Feb 13, 2012 3:44pm
jmog;1084834 wrote:You can ask the same question about what started the "Big Bang" in the atheistic view...
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Feb 13, 2012 3:51pm
Wow that is simply bad ass.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Feb 13, 2012 3:53pm
No I do not, I was not talking about specific comets, I was talking about the idea/theory of an Ort Cloud and how it was generated.Commander of Awesome;1084841 wrote:"Apart from long-period comets, only four known objects have orbits which suggest that they may belong to the Oort cloud: 90377 Sedna, 2000 CR[SUB]105[/SUB], 2006 SQ[SUB]372[/SUB] and 2008 KV[SUB]42[/SUB]. The first two, unlike scattered disc objects, have perihelia outside the gravitational reach of Neptune, and thus their orbits cannot be explained by perturbations from the gas giant planets."
You have outdated info.
However, I'm sure glad you know how to use google and copy/paste.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Feb 13, 2012 4:28pm
SnotBubbles;1084829 wrote:I see what you're saying, and I've felt that exact sentiment. But then I keep going back to....well how did God get there?
Well I'll be the first to admit that I don't have a clue. That's why I count myself as an agnostic (I think?).WebFire;1084832 wrote:Then you think a supreme being has always just existed?
I just look at the complexity of it all and think maybe the idea of God is equal to the idea of no God. If that makes any sense. hah
This.jmog;1084834 wrote:To be honest, in the end believing in a supreme being that started it all and believing that it all came from nothing requires the same level of "faith" no matter how much many want to deny it.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 13, 2012 6:26pm
Yeah I know, I'm surprised you didn't use it before spouting off about how we have no evidence of Oort Cloud and can't see objects in it. Took me 3 seconds to find 4 objects that have been spotted in and confirmed in the Oort cloud region. That was my point, not to show off my l33t interwebs skillz.jmog;1084860 wrote:
However, I'm sure glad you know how to use google and copy/paste.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Feb 14, 2012 7:51am
You are incorrect, objects found where they think the Ort Cloud is, they have NOT seen any evidence of an Ort Cloud. This distinction makes a huge difference.Commander of Awesome;1084999 wrote:Yeah I know, I'm surprised you didn't use it before spouting off about how we have no evidence of Oort Cloud and can't see objects in it. Took me 3 seconds to find 4 objects that have been spotted in and confirmed in the Oort cloud region. That was my point, not to show off my l33t interwebs skillz.
That's just as viable as saying I believe God is sitting on my desk, and I found a computer on my desk, therefore God exists. Logically both would be retarded statements.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Feb 15, 2012 7:47am
404 error for me.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 15, 2012 8:05am
jmog;1085455 wrote:
That's just as viable as saying I believe God is sitting on my desk, and I found a computer on my desk, therefore God exists. Logically both would be retarded statements.
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Sonofanump
Mar 12, 2012 9:16pm
Interesting.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Mar 12, 2012 9:28pm
My bad