Any Buckeye victory is better than a loss, but I would feel better if it was pretty decisive on the home floor. Say around 20 or so.

vball10set;1068400 wrote:THIS!!!!

And big fucking deal that Matta didn't offer Burke..he knows a helluva lot better than any of us the wants and needs of his team. If he wanted Burke, he would have offered Burke-period.

I bet you Matta regrets not offering Burke now. You agree?

SportsAndLady;1068460 wrote:I bet you Matta regrets not offering Burke now. You agree?

Nope Aaron Craft is God's gift to PGs.

wildcats20;1068462 wrote:Nope Aaron Craft is God's gift to PGs.

His motor just doesnt stop
What he does doesnt show up on the stat sheet
Another random cliche comment about hustle players

I mean even if you're going off point guards who don't look to score first, I'd still take Kendall Marshall over Aaron Craft.

I just don't understand the obsession w/ Aaron Craft. Good player, but I'd take quite a few players over him at the pg position.

SportsAndLady;1068467 wrote:I just don't understand the obsession w/ Aaron Craft. Good player, but I'd take quite a few players over him at the pg position.

My feelings exactly.

People just like to talk up hustle players that play defense. Hes nothing more than Chris Kramer version 2.0

Personally in the big 10 id take, Taylor, Appling and Burke over Craft

SportsAndLady;1068460 wrote:I bet you Matta regrets not offering Burke now. You agree?

I don't. Hindsight is 20/20 and like someone already said, OSU has Scott on the team.

Hb31187;1068487 wrote:People just like to talk up hustle players that play defense. Hes nothing more than Chris Kramer version 2.0

Personally in the big 10 id take, Taylor, Appling and Burke over Craft

I agree. It's because you don't see many players with a "motor" like his.....lol such a played out term.

I've only watched one UM game, the last vs Purdue. They played well and I was surprised they got the W on that court. That being said I think they get rolled tomorrow. Who will stop the beast in the paint?

Automatik;1068494 wrote:I don't. Hindsight is 20/20 and like someone already said, OSU has Scott on the team.

Come on..

Scott's 11 mpg and 1.8 ppg? Over Burke?

I like Craft. I don't feel like he is the best point guard in the country but he does a pretty good job.

I'm also happy with how Thomas has been playing this year.

SportsAndLady;1068460 wrote:I bet you Matta regrets not offering Burke now. You agree?

Not at all. He's a good player, but not only does he have Craft, but Scott as well. Now, a year or two from now if Scott doesn't pan out and Burke becomes all-everything, then yes, he may look back and realize that he under estimated his talents. There's reasons Matta didn't offer, and whatever these reasons were are good enough for me.

I'm LOL at the morons downgrading Craft because he doesn't put up points like his 'more athletic' peers--he's one of the best, if not THE BEST, defensive player in the country. That, and he's as good as any PG in the country at breaking the press, and defenses as well. Is he the best PG in the country? That's up for debate, but I'm damn glad he's wearing scarlet and gray.

SportsAndLady;1068499 wrote:Come on..

Scott's 11 mpg and 1.8 ppg? Over Burke?

I didn't say I would take him over him. Just stating the obvious OSU has 2 viable PGs on the team and I can guarantee you that Matta does not give a shit about not offering Burke.

SportsAndLady;1068499 wrote:Come on..

Scott's 11 mpg and 1.8 ppg? Over Burke?

Scott comes in behind Craft--Burke walked into that position at tsun 'cause they had nobody else. Come on, S&L, is that all you got? lol

Automatik;1068506 wrote:I didn't say I would take him over him. Just stating the obvious OSU has 2 viable PGs on the team and I can guarantee you that Matta does not give a shit about not offering Burke.

Yeahhhhh, but that's like me saying Withey is a viable C, so I wouldn't want Jared Sullinger.

It's a cop out...Clearly Matta missed on Burke's evaluation and I'd say even on Scott's evaluation and would take Burke looking back at it..you can have 3 viable PGs on a team you know lol

Nobody said hes not athletic or quick. Just that hes overrated by OSU fans because hes one of those lovable hustle players. He's good, but nothing to write home about

vball10set;1068507 wrote:Scott comes in behind Craft--Burke walked into that position at tsun 'cause they had nobody else. Come on, S&L, is that all you got? lol

What?

I'm not saying their numbers should be similar, but clearly if Scott was any good he'd be getting more PT and more opportunities to shoot.

Hb31187;1068509 wrote:Nobody said hes not athletic or quick. Just that hes overrated by OSU fans because hes one of those lovable hustle players. He's good, but nothing to write home about

Then he's overrated by all the experts too. They praise him as much as the fans do. The espn guys constantly say he's the best defender in the country and one of the top pg's.

Hb31187;1068509 wrote:Nobody said hes not athletic or quick. Just that hes overrated by OSU fans because hes one of those lovable hustle players. He's good, but nothing to write home about

lol--overrated by OSU fans? I'll bet that Burke won't think he's so 'loveable' tomorrow afternoon

Is he the best PG in the country? That's up for debate,

No, it's absolutely not.

OSU fans debate that, I have never ever seen any fan outside of OSU consider him one of the best PGs.

And hell I like the guy, I think he's damn good. But come on lol

How come OSU fans, more than any other it seems (maybe not as much as Purdue with Painter), never criticize anything Matta does. Like he doesnt ever make mistakes? Either coaching, recruiting, whatever? Its always, "if it was good enough for him, its good enough for me." I dont get that. Why ever have an opinion if its just going to be because the coach did it.

Now, if YOU believe something to be true, than thats fine. But to disagree with others because "the coach has his reasons" is such a lame cop out/argument. I stand by my belief that Burke would be on the bench behind Craft, but would be putting up better numbers than Scott in a back-up role. So Im not sure how he wouldnt help OSU this year, and moving forward.

SportsAndLady;1068508 wrote:Yeahhhhh, but that's like me saying Withey is a viable C, so I wouldn't want Jared Sullinger.

It's a cop out...Clearly Matta missed on Burke's evaluation and I'd say even on Scott's evaluation and would take Burke looking back at it..you can have 3 viable PGs on a team you know lol

It's not a cop out....just a dumbass argument. Like saying Tressel regrets not offering Eric Page. :laugh:

SportsAndLady;1068510 wrote:What?

I'm not saying their numbers should be similar, but clearly if Scott was any good he'd be getting more PT and more opportunities to shoot.

I'm sure Matta knows what he's doing in his handling of Scott, who I'm pretty sure he thinks is 'any good'--time will tell

Automatik;1068518 wrote:It's not a cop out....just a dumbass argument. Like saying Tressel regrets not offering Eric Page. :laugh:

Well, he was recruited by the big boys. He was just too dumb to get in.

Midstate01;1068511 wrote:Then he's overrated by all the experts too. They praise him as much as the fans do. The espn guys constantly say he's the best defender in the country and one of the top pg's.

One of the best defenders id def agree with. One of the top pgs? LOL. Top what? 20 maybe?

Laley23;1068517 wrote:How come OSU fans, more than any other it seems (maybe not as much as Purdue with Painter), never criticize anything Matta does. Like he doesnt ever make mistakes? Either coaching, recruiting, whatever? Its always, "if it was good enough for him, its good enough for me." I dont get that. Why ever have an opinion if its just going to be because the coach did it.

Now, if YOU believe something to be true, than thats fine. But to disagree with others because "the coach has his reasons" is such a lame cop out/argument. I stand by my belief that Burke would be on the bench behind Craft, but would be putting up better numbers than Scott in a back-up role. So Im not sure how he wouldnt help OSU this year, and moving forward.

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vball10set;1068520 wrote:I'm sure Matta knows what he's doing in his handling of Scott, who I'm pretty sure he thinks is 'any good'--time will tell

LOL