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MontyBrunswick
Feb 19, 2013 2:49pm
I hope the Big Ten offers FAU. Hit them where it hurts.WebFire;1392341 wrote:Get used to to. They want the southern grab.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 19, 2013 2:49pm
Get used to it? We are at 14 teams, 16 is about as manageable as you can get. I don't want a 32 team conference.WebFire;1392341 wrote:Get used to to. They want the southern grab.
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MontyBrunswick
Feb 19, 2013 2:52pm
I'm really shocked that they turned Missouri away. I think they'd be a better fit than Buttgers or Maryland. I think that was an example of them putting cash ahead of everything else.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Feb 19, 2013 2:57pm
From some of what I've read, they possibly won't stop at 16.sleeper;1392347 wrote:Get used to it? We are at 14 teams, 16 is about as manageable as you can get. I don't want a 32 team conference.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Feb 19, 2013 3:08pm
So the plan is to expand to 20ish and have a full schedule of your division (play everyone) and have the two winners play in the Conference championship game so we're essentially left with "two" conferences who happen to have a private bowl game between their winners?WebFire;1392360 wrote:From some of what I've read, they possibly won't stop at 16.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 19, 2013 3:29pm
lol this. 16 is probably the max I'd want. You go to a 3 game non conference schedule. Play everyone in your division(7 games) and 2 rotating crossovers from the other division.Fly4Fun;1392371 wrote:So the plan is to expand to 20ish and have a full schedule of your division (play everyone) and have the two winners play in the Conference championship game so we're essentially left with "two" conferences who happen to have a private bowl game between their winners?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 19, 2013 3:32pm
Honestly if they go to 20, they won't even bother with separate divisions. They will go to a 9 game conference schedule; 2(or 1) fixed rival(s) per team that they play every year and a rotating schedule against 7(8) teams.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Feb 19, 2013 3:59pm
I have no idea what the plan is. I am not the commish.Fly4Fun;1392371 wrote:So the plan is to expand to 20ish and have a full schedule of your division (play everyone) and have the two winners play in the Conference championship game so we're essentially left with "two" conferences who happen to have a private bowl game between their winners?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Feb 19, 2013 3:59pm
Not saying I do either. I don't even like 14 or 16. I like many smaller conferences.sleeper;1392407 wrote:lol this. 16 is probably the max I'd want. You go to a 3 game non conference schedule. Play everyone in your division(7 games) and 2 rotating crossovers from the other division.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Feb 19, 2013 4:23pm
I wasn't directly soliciting a response from you. I was quoting you as the base for my post concerning moving past 16, which already is getting too large to manage for football in my opinion.WebFire;1392426 wrote:I have no idea what the plan is. I am not the commish.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Feb 19, 2013 4:29pm
And I agree with that.Fly4Fun;1392445 wrote:I wasn't directly soliciting a response from you. I was quoting you as the base for my post concerning moving past 16, which already is getting too large to manage for football in my opinion.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Feb 19, 2013 5:49pm
I think they'll try to get to 20. I have no basis for that. Just my opinion.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Feb 19, 2013 10:38pm
Larry Fedora has recruited well in his first two years at UNC. They would have been in the ACC title game (not saying much) if they weren't sanctioned. Great? No, but I see them in the same tier as Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Michigan State.ohiobucks1;1392336 wrote:UNC is a great program to add. Medicority in what? Football? Yeah maybe, even though they are a decent program . Hell of a basketball school. Great academics. Perfect fit.
Cat Food Flambe'
Posts: 1,230
Feb 19, 2013 11:13pm
If NC goes, I wonder if UVA will go with them?
Yeah, it's at best a sidewise move for football, at least for now, but both schools would be a perfect fit for the Big Ten in every other measure. I don't see us ever becoming the SEC equals in football - better to establish our own products and profile.
Yeah, it's at best a sidewise move for football, at least for now, but both schools would be a perfect fit for the Big Ten in every other measure. I don't see us ever becoming the SEC equals in football - better to establish our own products and profile.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 20, 2013 12:58pm
UVA makes a lot of sense. I wouldn't mind having UVA in the B1G.Cat Food Flambe';1392740 wrote:If NC goes, I wonder if UVA will go with them?
Yeah, it's at best a sidewise move for football, at least for now, but both schools would be a perfect fit for the Big Ten in every other measure. I don't see us ever becoming the SEC equals in football - better to establish our own products and profile.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 20, 2013 12:59pm
I think a solid play at Vanderbilt is worth considering as well.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 23, 2013 12:56am
Lets go back to where the conferences were in 2003 please
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Feb 23, 2013 9:32am
sleeper;1392995 wrote:I think a solid play at Vanderbilt is worth considering as well.
Why would Vanderbilt leave the SEC?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 23, 2013 9:47am
Because let's face it, the SEC is becoming synonymous with academic standards that even community colleges are starting to laugh at. Vanderbilt isn't good at sports, but they are an academic powerhouse so they fit in nicely with every B1G school not named Nebraska.jordo212000;1394635 wrote:Why would Vanderbilt leave the SEC?
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the_system
Posts: 465
Mar 2, 2013 10:37am
Wat?mucalum49;1392702 wrote:Larry Fedora has recruited well in his first two years at UNC. They would have been in the ACC title game (not saying much) if they weren't sanctioned. Great? No, but I see them in the same tier as Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Michigan State.
Michigan State maybe. Not Wisconsin and Nebraska.
UNC has lost at least 5+ games 14 out of the last 15 seasons. Sparty 11 of 15. Wisconsin 5 times in 15 years. Nebraska only 4 times, with 3 of those under the Callahan Catastrophe. Nebraska's "down" years the last decade are still much better than UNC has probably ever achieved.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Mar 4, 2013 6:47pm
You're right. I meant going forward I think they could be. UNC has shot themselves in the foot in recent years with getting their best talent suspended. With the way Fedora has started off his career there I think he could get them to that tier permitting he stays. Some SEC teams were already courting him for their openings..the_system;1398874 wrote:Wat?
Michigan State maybe. Not Wisconsin and Nebraska.
UNC has lost at least 5+ games 14 out of the last 15 seasons. Sparty 11 of 15. Wisconsin 5 times in 15 years. Nebraska only 4 times, with 3 of those under the Callahan Catastrophe. Nebraska's "down" years the last decade are still much better than UNC has probably ever achieved.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Mar 5, 2013 1:36am
From an article I read a few years ago before most of this even started happening it stated we would end up with 4 16 team super conferences. He also said these super conferences would eventually split off from the NCAA.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Apr 3, 2013 8:59pm
old Big East will be called the American Athletic Conference as of 7/1/13
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9130997/former-big-east-named-american-athletic-conference
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9130997/former-big-east-named-american-athletic-conference
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Sonofanump
Apr 3, 2013 9:23pm
Makes sense, AKA Conference USA.ts1227;1419305 wrote:old Big East will be called the American Athletic Conference as of 7/1/13
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9130997/former-big-east-named-american-athletic-conference
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Apr 3, 2013 9:35pm
According to WVU sources, Bigger 10 was actually a consideration.