Archive Suspect with crowbar shot by police

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Gblock

Jan 26, 2012 3:34pm

just saw the video...wtf? dude is a moron but certainly they didnt need to shoot him 10 times

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WebFire

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Jan 26, 2012 4:04pm

Gblock;1066748 wrote:just saw the video...wtf? dude is a moron but certainly they didnt need to shoot him 10 times

Again, do you think they should have shot at all?

FatHobbit

Posts: 8,651

Jan 26, 2012 4:15pm

Gblock;1066748 wrote:just saw the video...wtf? dude is a moron but certainly they didnt need to shoot him 10 times

I can't see what the suspect is doing when they fire the second set of shots. If he was laying on the ground I would agree that was too much. But we can't tell from that video.

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Gblock

Jan 26, 2012 4:24pm

WebFire;1066788 wrote:Again, do you think they should have shot at all?

i wouldnt put them in jail for it but they certainly couldve gave him some space and tried to talk him down...he was walking away from them they couldve kept a safer distance to keep from having to shoot him...and 5 shot bursts are nuts for a guy with a crowbar

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jan 26, 2012 4:25pm

Ladies and Gents, I give you, thinthick:

[video=youtube;n3wuSO59OdM][/video]

LJ

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Jan 26, 2012 4:27pm

Gblock;1066812 wrote:i wouldnt put them in jail for it but they certainly couldve gave him some space and tried to talk him down...he was walking away from them they couldve kept a safer distance to keep from having to shoot him...and 5 shot bursts are nuts for a guy with a crowbar

You never just fire one shot.

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Gblock

Jan 26, 2012 4:34pm

LJ;1066819 wrote:You never just fire one shot.

tru its a double tap but ..10 shots?? and plus the guy he was going to hit wasnt the guy that fired..

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Gblock

Jan 26, 2012 4:36pm

was he still a threat when he was on the ground?

Fly4Fun

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Jan 26, 2012 4:36pm

Gblock;1066828 wrote:tru its a double tap but ..10 shots?? and plus the guy he was going to hit wasnt the guy that fired..

To me it seemed 5 shots from each. I could be wrong on that.

I agree there is some question as to the amount of shots, but I don't think this will end up being an issue.

And it doesn't matter that the guy he was advancing was not the one that shot first. People (especially cops) are allowed to use deadly force when another's life is at risk.

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Gblock

Jan 26, 2012 4:39pm

Fly4Fun;1066834 wrote:To me it seemed 5 shots from each. I could be wrong on that.

I agree there is some question as to the amount of shots, but I don't think this will end up being an issue.

And it doesn't matter that the guy he was advancing was not the one that shot first. People (especially cops) are allowed to use deadly force when another's life is at risk.

i get it but just because your allowed doesnt mean you should...people were making the point that maybe they wouldnt have time to get their gun out this and that but they had him lined up for the kill shot so i dont think you had to rush it which is why the guy he was going to swing at hadnt fired yet imo

Pick6

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Jan 26, 2012 4:40pm

Gblock;1066828 wrote:tru its a double tap but ..10 shots?? and plus the guy he was going to hit wasnt the guy that fired..

point? it's his partner.

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Gblock

Jan 26, 2012 4:43pm

Pick6;1066843 wrote:point? it's his partner.

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so are you saying they had NO CHOICE except shoot this guy? it couldnt have been handled any other way?

SnotBubbles

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Jan 26, 2012 4:48pm

FatHobbit;1066800 wrote:I can't see what the suspect is doing when they fire the second set of shots. If he was laying on the ground I would agree that was too much. But we can't tell from that video.

What would you be doing after taking 5 shots to the chest from point blank range? I'm guessing he wasn't on the phone talking to his girlfriend or reaching in his backpack for a firearm.

LJ

Posts: 16,351

Jan 26, 2012 4:52pm

SnotBubbles;1066850 wrote:What would you be doing after taking 5 shots to the chest from point blank range? I'm guessing he wasn't on the phone talking to his girlfriend or reaching in his backpack for a firearm.

5 shots means nothing.

Glory Days

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Jan 26, 2012 6:53pm

Gblock;1066748 wrote:just saw the video...wtf? dude is a moron but certainly they didnt need to shoot him 10 times

Gblock;1066828 wrote:tru its a double tap but ..10 shots?? and plus the guy he was going to hit wasnt the guy that fired..

Gblock;1066832 wrote:was he still a threat when he was on the ground?

SnotBubbles;1066850 wrote:What would you be doing after taking 5 shots to the chest from point blank range? I'm guessing he wasn't on the phone talking to his girlfriend or reaching in his backpack for a firearm.

why do you assume all "10" shots hit the suspect?

Fab1b

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Jan 26, 2012 7:07pm

The way I see it is he was a threat period, the threat was taken care of! If he doesn't take the pipe, crowbar, etc....into the place and start smashing it up and turn to the cop after failing to listen to them he doesn't get shot or die. How can some of you defend him or slap the cops in the face. What if they didn't shoot him and he got off a shot with that pipe to someone's face or head and killed them? You would all be screaming why didn't they just shoot him and stop him, dah dah dah! Jesus what is the matter with you, if there is no criminal here there is no shooting, see the link?

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Thinthickbigred

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Jan 26, 2012 8:26pm

SportsAndLady;1066705 wrote:Thanks, I've been looking for a signature to use

your welcome loser My job is done here LOL Why dont you make your own material

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Thinthickbigred

Posts: 4,148

Jan 26, 2012 8:27pm

SportsAndLady;1066814 wrote:Ladies and Gents, I give you, thinthick:

[video=youtube;n3wuSO59OdM][/video]

that doesnt look like my bus stop bench

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Thinthickbigred

Posts: 4,148

Jan 26, 2012 8:34pm

All jokes aside . This was totally over excessive force period . Those cops wernt worth there salt . Again they had a dog . they had mace ,the perp was outside away from people WTF How can anybody with any compassion what so ever condone that killing . Rodney King got beaten down severly after going on a high speed chase and was high as a kite on PCP and it was on cameras . Those cops got punished like they did and riots ensued . They killed this guy and all they did was misfire on a taeser one time . They had multiple other choices and nobody deserves to die because they smash a store up with a crowbar . Ill tell you one thing I am for . How about when someone is convicted of something like the perp did ,they get flogged or whipped .

Iliketurtles

Posts: 8,191

Jan 26, 2012 8:43pm

SnotBubbles;1066599 wrote:Compied? That sounds dirty! Where do I get one?

Haha I was trying to dumb it down for him and using words he would hopefully understand.... or I was posting at work and just messed up and forgot the l.

Glory Days

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Jan 26, 2012 8:51pm

Thinthickbigred;1067066 wrote:All jokes aside . This was totally over excessive force period . Those cops wernt worth there salt . Again they had a dog . they had mace ,the perp was outside away from people WTF How can anybody with any compassion what so ever condone that killing

how far and how long do you let the guy walk around freely? and outside away from people? the people with the camera were like 75-100ft away.

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WebFire

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Jan 26, 2012 8:55pm

Thinthickbigred;1067066 wrote:All jokes aside . This was totally over excessive force period . Those cops wernt worth there salt . Again they had a dog . they had mace ,the perp was outside away from people WTF How can anybody with any compassion what so ever condone that killing . Rodney King got beaten down severly after going on a high speed chase and was high as a kite on PCP and it was on cameras . Those cops got punished like they did and riots ensued . They killed this guy and all they did was misfire on a taeser one time . They had multiple other choices and nobody deserves to die because they smash a store up with a crowbar . Ill tell you one thing I am for . How about when someone is convicted of something like the perp did ,they get flogged or whipped .

King didn't have a lethal weapon. Derp.

DeadliestWarrior34

Posts: 3,101

Jan 26, 2012 8:57pm

Thinthickbigred;1067056 wrote:your welcome loser My job is done here LOL Why dont you make your own material

Because he has a high school education.

sej

Posts: 540

Jan 26, 2012 9:51pm

Play the video again. The subject is still standing and not neutralized after the first 5 shots. If it only takes 1 shot, Snot, why didn't he drop after the first shot? You probably also thought the exotic animals that had to be killed in Zanesville could have all been tranquilized.

If I'm a gun owning Nazi Pig/Nazi Pig lover, I'm ok with that. You're pretty off in thinking that I'm of the conservative, right wing ilk though.

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Gblock

Jan 27, 2012 12:04am

Glory Days;1066973 wrote:why do you assume all "10" shots hit the suspect?

ur saying they missed from 5 feet away?