
End of Line
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Jul 19, 2010 12:14am
RelsonGracieBJJ;426630 wrote:Anderson Has no one left except Sonnen.. Who will take Anderson down.. and we will see how good the Spiders ground game really is.
Belfort?

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jul 19, 2010 4:51am
I don't think Sonnen has much of a chance of beating Silva.
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jmog
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Jul 19, 2010 11:03am
bigdaddy2003;426960 wrote:I don't think Sonnen has much of a chance of beating Silva.
Silva has shown his wrestling sucks. He has good BJJ, but if Sonnen wrestles and play defense against submissions, he can beat Silva.
Silva's weakness against wrestling is exactly why I think GSP would beat him if they ever were paired up.

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jul 19, 2010 12:20pm
jmog;427062 wrote:Silva has shown his wrestling sucks. He has good BJJ, but if Sonnen wrestles and play defense against submissions, he can beat Silva.
Silva's weakness against wrestling is exactly why I think GSP would beat him if they ever were paired up.
Point well taken. I just personally think Silva will beat Sonnen and could beat GSP.
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jmog
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Jul 19, 2010 8:13pm
bigdaddy2003;427102 wrote:Point well taken. I just personally think Silva will beat Sonnen and could beat GSP.
Oh I think Silva can beat GSP, but he better learn some TD defense before that matchup, because GSP might have the best wrestling in the UFC.

RelsonGracieBJJ
Posts: 528
Jul 19, 2010 8:53pm
I forgot about Vitor. Vitor could definitely beat Anderson.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jul 19, 2010 10:18pm
Silva fights best when people think he can be beat or when people talk trash. When is he fighting people with lil to no chance he shows off. He will teach Sonnen a lessen and I think he would beat GSP. Belfort and his fast hands probably have a decent chance.

RelsonGracieBJJ
Posts: 528
Jul 19, 2010 10:25pm
You are selling Sonnen way to short. Travis Lutter had mount on Anderson and gassed.. He lost to Ryan Chona via Heel Hook.. and to Daiju Takase via. Triangle choke. His Ground game is very suspect and Sonnen has a win against a much better grappler in Paulo Filho. I agree if it stays standing, Anderson wins via Vicous KO. On the ground. could go either way.

End of Line
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Jul 20, 2010 1:30am
Jake Shields signs with UFC, meets Martin Kampmann at UFC 121
http://mmajunkie.com/news/19975/jake-shields-signs-with-ufc-meets-martin-kampmann-at-ufc-121.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/19975/jake-shields-signs-with-ufc-meets-martin-kampmann-at-ufc-121.mma

End of Line
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Jul 20, 2010 1:30am
The_Crosby_Show;426363 wrote:Shields/Kampmann should happen at UFC 121
I called it. Haha.

Tiny285Joey
Posts: 260
Jul 20, 2010 6:29am
He beat Paulo Filho who was coked up or otherwise not caring. Filho/Sonnen (R) II wasn't even a fight. Filho just plodded around the cage, he missed weight etc. Filho's having mental issues. I don't think you can glean a lot from that, although I do agree with your reasoning as to why Sonnen (R) wins. I don't think Silva is a true BJJ black belt...he's like a Rashad Evans black belt.

bigdaddy2003
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Jul 20, 2010 8:43am
I agree with everything that has been said about Silva but I just don't see this guy losing to anyone. I think Belfort has the best chance of anyone left.
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jmog
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Jul 20, 2010 10:28am
RelsonGracieBJJ;427569 wrote:You are selling Sonnen way to short. Travis Lutter had mount on Anderson and gassed.. He lost to Ryan Chona via Heel Hook.. and to Daiju Takase via. Triangle choke. His Ground game is very suspect and Sonnen has a win against a much better grappler in Paulo Filho. I agree if it stays standing, Anderson wins via Vicous KO. On the ground. could go either way.
I agree with your post (that Sonnen can beat Silva), but lets be fair. Silva was beating the snot out of RYO CHONAN before Ryo got desparate and landed possible the coolest looking flying submission of all time in MMA.
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jmog
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Jul 20, 2010 10:32am
Anyone who doesn't think GSP has a shot at beating Silva hasn't watched Silva v Lutter or Silva v Hendo. GSP has better freestyle/folkstyle wrestling (leg takedowns) than both of those 2 by FAR, and they both got Silva on the ground EASY.

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Jul 20, 2010 10:57am
I think GSP has a chance of beating Silva. I just don't give him as big of a chance as most.

Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Jul 20, 2010 12:11pm
Upcoming cards with big fights listed:
UFC on Versus 2 - August 1st on Versus from San Diego, California
Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matuyshenko
Mark Munoz vs. Yushin Okami
John Howard vs. Jake Ellenberger
Tyson Griffin vs. Takanori Gomi
UFC 117 - August 7th on PPV from Oakland, California
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen for Middleweight Title
Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
Junior dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
Thiago Silva vs. Tim Boetsch
WEC 50 - August 18th on Versus from Las Vegas, Nevada
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Joseph Benavidez II for Bantamweight Title
Anthony Pettis vs. Shane Roller
Cub Swanson vs. Chad Mendes
Strikeforce: Houston - August 21st on ??? from Houston, Texas
Muhammad Lawal (c) vs. Rafael Cavalcante for Light Heavyweight Title
Ronaldo Souza vs. Tim Kennedy for vacant Middleweight Title
Bobby Lashley vs. Chad Griggs
Antonio Silva vs. Sergei Kharitonov
UFC 118 - August 28th on PPV from Boston, Massachusetts
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. B.J. Penn II for Lightweight Title
Randy Couture vs. James Toney
Nate Marquardt vs. Rousimar Palhares
Kenny Florian vs. Gray Maynard
Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis
WEC 51 - September 8th on Versus from Broomfield, Colorado
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Manny Gamburyan for Featherweight Title
Jamie Varner vs. Donald Cerrone
Miguel Torres vs. Charlie Valencia
George Roop vs. Chan Sung Jung
Mark Hominick vs. Leonard Garcia
UFC Fight Night 22 - September 15th on Spike TV from Austin, Texas
Demian Maia vs. Alan Belcher
Matt Wiman vs. Mac Danzig
Jim Miller vs. Gleison Tibau
Cole Miller vs. Ross Pearson
UFC 119 - September 25th on PPV from Indianapolis, Indiana
Frank Mir vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira II
Ryan Bader vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Sean Sherk vs. Evan Dunham
Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle
Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens
C.B. Dollaway vs. Joe Doerksen
WEC 52 - October 13th on Versus from ???
???
UFC 120 - October 16th on PPV/Spike TV from London, England
Michael Bisping vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
Dan Hardy vs. Carlos Condit
John Hathaway vs. Mike Pyle
Cheick Kongo vs. Travis Browne
James Wilks vs. Claude Patrick
UFC 121 - October 23rd on PPV from Anaheim, California
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Cain Velasquez for the Heavyweight Title
Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Paul Taylor vs. Sam Stout
Court McGee vs. Ryan Jensen
UFC 122 - November 13th on PPV from Oberhausen, Germany
Vitor Belfort vs. ???
WEC 52 - November 24th on Versus from ???
???
The Ultimate Fighter 12 finale - December 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Lightweight Finalist #1 vs. Lightweight Finalist #2
UFC 123 - December 11th on PPV from ???
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Josh Koscheck II for Welterweight Title
UFC on Versus 2 - August 1st on Versus from San Diego, California
Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matuyshenko
Mark Munoz vs. Yushin Okami
John Howard vs. Jake Ellenberger
Tyson Griffin vs. Takanori Gomi
UFC 117 - August 7th on PPV from Oakland, California
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen for Middleweight Title
Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
Junior dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
Thiago Silva vs. Tim Boetsch
WEC 50 - August 18th on Versus from Las Vegas, Nevada
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Joseph Benavidez II for Bantamweight Title
Anthony Pettis vs. Shane Roller
Cub Swanson vs. Chad Mendes
Strikeforce: Houston - August 21st on ??? from Houston, Texas
Muhammad Lawal (c) vs. Rafael Cavalcante for Light Heavyweight Title
Ronaldo Souza vs. Tim Kennedy for vacant Middleweight Title
Bobby Lashley vs. Chad Griggs
Antonio Silva vs. Sergei Kharitonov
UFC 118 - August 28th on PPV from Boston, Massachusetts
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. B.J. Penn II for Lightweight Title
Randy Couture vs. James Toney
Nate Marquardt vs. Rousimar Palhares
Kenny Florian vs. Gray Maynard
Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis
WEC 51 - September 8th on Versus from Broomfield, Colorado
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Manny Gamburyan for Featherweight Title
Jamie Varner vs. Donald Cerrone
Miguel Torres vs. Charlie Valencia
George Roop vs. Chan Sung Jung
Mark Hominick vs. Leonard Garcia
UFC Fight Night 22 - September 15th on Spike TV from Austin, Texas
Demian Maia vs. Alan Belcher
Matt Wiman vs. Mac Danzig
Jim Miller vs. Gleison Tibau
Cole Miller vs. Ross Pearson
UFC 119 - September 25th on PPV from Indianapolis, Indiana
Frank Mir vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira II
Ryan Bader vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Sean Sherk vs. Evan Dunham
Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle
Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens
C.B. Dollaway vs. Joe Doerksen
WEC 52 - October 13th on Versus from ???
???
UFC 120 - October 16th on PPV/Spike TV from London, England
Michael Bisping vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
Dan Hardy vs. Carlos Condit
John Hathaway vs. Mike Pyle
Cheick Kongo vs. Travis Browne
James Wilks vs. Claude Patrick
UFC 121 - October 23rd on PPV from Anaheim, California
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Cain Velasquez for the Heavyweight Title
Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Paul Taylor vs. Sam Stout
Court McGee vs. Ryan Jensen
UFC 122 - November 13th on PPV from Oberhausen, Germany
Vitor Belfort vs. ???
WEC 52 - November 24th on Versus from ???
???
The Ultimate Fighter 12 finale - December 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Lightweight Finalist #1 vs. Lightweight Finalist #2
UFC 123 - December 11th on PPV from ???
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Josh Koscheck II for Welterweight Title

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Jul 20, 2010 1:52pm
If Silva and GSP ever happens, I favor Silva. One two advantages: Size, and reach. No doubt GSP holds the edge in the grappling department. Silva's accuracy coupled with his reach might keep GSP at distance. I would love to see this fight but only at a catch weight or at most 185. I think the problem with this matchup is Silva's size though. He cuts roughly from anywhere 205 - 220 to 185. That creates a big problem for GSP.

End of Line
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Jul 21, 2010 12:32am

End of Line
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Jul 21, 2010 3:47am
"Rampage" Jackson verbally agrees to face Lyoto Machida at Nov. 20 UFC event
http://mmajunkie.com/news/19996/rampage-jackson-verbally-agrees-to-face-lyoto-machida-at-nov-20-ufc-event.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/19996/rampage-jackson-verbally-agrees-to-face-lyoto-machida-at-nov-20-ufc-event.mma

Ender Wiggin
Posts: 1,124
Jul 21, 2010 7:01am
I dont know what fight that guy was watching, but Chonan was winning that entire fight with Silva even before the miracle sub.

End of Line
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Jul 22, 2010 2:04am
Report: Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago on tap for UFC 121
http://mmajunkie.com/news/20006/report-diego-sanchez-vs-paulo-thiago-on-tap-for-ufc-121.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/20006/report-diego-sanchez-vs-paulo-thiago-on-tap-for-ufc-121.mma

Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Jul 22, 2010 10:06am
Upcoming cards with big fights listed:
UFC on Versus 2 - August 1st on Versus from San Diego, California
Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matuyshenko
Mark Munoz vs. Yushin Okami
John Howard vs. Jake Ellenberger
Tyson Griffin vs. Takanori Gomi
UFC 117 - August 7th on PPV from Oakland, California
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen for Middleweight Title
Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
Junior dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
Thiago Silva vs. Tim Boetsch
WEC 50 - August 18th on Versus from Las Vegas, Nevada
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Joseph Benavidez II for Bantamweight Title
Anthony Pettis vs. Shane Roller
Cub Swanson vs. Chad Mendes
Strikeforce: Houston - August 21st on ??? from Houston, Texas
Muhammad Lawal (c) vs. Rafael Cavalcante for Light Heavyweight Title
Ronaldo Souza vs. Tim Kennedy for vacant Middleweight Title
Bobby Lashley vs. Chad Griggs
Antonio Silva vs. Sergei Kharitonov
UFC 118 - August 28th on PPV from Boston, Massachusetts
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. B.J. Penn II for Lightweight Title
Randy Couture vs. James Toney
Nate Marquardt vs. Rousimar Palhares
Kenny Florian vs. Gray Maynard
Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis
UFC Fight Night 22 - September 15th on Spike TV from Austin, Texas
Demian Maia vs. Alan Belcher
Matt Wiman vs. Mac Danzig
Jim Miller vs. Gleison Tibau
Cole Miller vs. Ross Pearson
UFC 119 - September 25th on PPV from Indianapolis, Indiana
Frank Mir vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira II
Ryan Bader vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Sean Sherk vs. Evan Dunham
Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle
Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens
C.B. Dollaway vs. Joe Doerksen
WEC 51 - September 8th on Versus from Broomfield, Colorado
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Manny Gamburyan for Featherweight Title
Jamie Varner vs. Donald Cerrone
Chris Horodecki vs. Ed Ratcliff
Miguel Torres vs. Charlie Valencia
George Roop vs. Chan Sung Jung
Mark Hominick vs. Leonard Garcia
WEC 52 - October 13th on Versus from ???
???
UFC 120 - October 16th on PPV/Spike TV from London, England
Michael Bisping vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
Dan Hardy vs. Carlos Condit
John Hathaway vs. Mike Pyle
Cheick Kongo vs. Travis Browne
James Wilks vs. Claude Patrick
UFC 121 - October 23rd on PPV from Anaheim, California
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Cain Velasquez for the Heavyweight Title
Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Patrick Cote vs. Tom Lawlor
Paul Taylor vs. Sam Stout
Court McGee vs. Ryan Jensen
UFC 122 - November 13th on PPV from Oberhausen, Germany
Vitor Belfort vs. ???
UFC 123 - November 20th on PPV from ???
Rampage Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida
WEC 52 - November 24th on Versus from ???
???
The Ultimate Fighter 12 finale - December 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Lightweight Finalist #1 vs. Lightweight Finalist #2
UFC 124 - December 11th on PPV from ???
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Josh Koscheck II for Welterweight Title
UFC on Versus 2 - August 1st on Versus from San Diego, California
Jon Jones vs. Vladimir Matuyshenko
Mark Munoz vs. Yushin Okami
John Howard vs. Jake Ellenberger
Tyson Griffin vs. Takanori Gomi
UFC 117 - August 7th on PPV from Oakland, California
Anderson Silva (c) vs. Chael Sonnen for Middleweight Title
Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
Junior dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
Thiago Silva vs. Tim Boetsch
WEC 50 - August 18th on Versus from Las Vegas, Nevada
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Joseph Benavidez II for Bantamweight Title
Anthony Pettis vs. Shane Roller
Cub Swanson vs. Chad Mendes
Strikeforce: Houston - August 21st on ??? from Houston, Texas
Muhammad Lawal (c) vs. Rafael Cavalcante for Light Heavyweight Title
Ronaldo Souza vs. Tim Kennedy for vacant Middleweight Title
Bobby Lashley vs. Chad Griggs
Antonio Silva vs. Sergei Kharitonov
UFC 118 - August 28th on PPV from Boston, Massachusetts
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. B.J. Penn II for Lightweight Title
Randy Couture vs. James Toney
Nate Marquardt vs. Rousimar Palhares
Kenny Florian vs. Gray Maynard
Nate Diaz vs. Marcus Davis
UFC Fight Night 22 - September 15th on Spike TV from Austin, Texas
Demian Maia vs. Alan Belcher
Matt Wiman vs. Mac Danzig
Jim Miller vs. Gleison Tibau
Cole Miller vs. Ross Pearson
UFC 119 - September 25th on PPV from Indianapolis, Indiana
Frank Mir vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira II
Ryan Bader vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Sean Sherk vs. Evan Dunham
Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle
Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens
C.B. Dollaway vs. Joe Doerksen
WEC 51 - September 8th on Versus from Broomfield, Colorado
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Manny Gamburyan for Featherweight Title
Jamie Varner vs. Donald Cerrone
Chris Horodecki vs. Ed Ratcliff
Miguel Torres vs. Charlie Valencia
George Roop vs. Chan Sung Jung
Mark Hominick vs. Leonard Garcia
WEC 52 - October 13th on Versus from ???
???
UFC 120 - October 16th on PPV/Spike TV from London, England
Michael Bisping vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
Dan Hardy vs. Carlos Condit
John Hathaway vs. Mike Pyle
Cheick Kongo vs. Travis Browne
James Wilks vs. Claude Patrick
UFC 121 - October 23rd on PPV from Anaheim, California
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Cain Velasquez for the Heavyweight Title
Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Patrick Cote vs. Tom Lawlor
Paul Taylor vs. Sam Stout
Court McGee vs. Ryan Jensen
UFC 122 - November 13th on PPV from Oberhausen, Germany
Vitor Belfort vs. ???
UFC 123 - November 20th on PPV from ???
Rampage Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida
WEC 52 - November 24th on Versus from ???
???
The Ultimate Fighter 12 finale - December 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Lightweight Finalist #1 vs. Lightweight Finalist #2
UFC 124 - December 11th on PPV from ???
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Josh Koscheck II for Welterweight Title

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Jul 22, 2010 3:28pm
Matt Hamill vs Tito Ortiz added to UFC 121:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/20019/matt-hamill-vs-tito-ortiz-added-to-ufc-121-in-october.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/20019/matt-hamill-vs-tito-ortiz-added-to-ufc-121-in-october.mma

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 22, 2010 3:29pm
Wonder when Tito backs out of this one lol

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Jul 22, 2010 4:35pm
Gabriel Gonzaga v Brendon Schaub also added to UFC 121
http://mmajunkie.com/news/20020/gabriel-gonzaga-vs-brendan-schaub-meet-at-ufc-121.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/20020/gabriel-gonzaga-vs-brendan-schaub-meet-at-ufc-121.mma