robj55;1699768 wrote:I just saw a GIF and there was a very significant head clash that occurred when Rumble landed that right hand on Gus, the way the two collided it certainly contributed to how hurt Gus was.

From the gif, it looks the like punch led to it. He hit Gus and Gus sort of fell into Rumbles head from the punch.

Gus said there was no head clash but he wouldn't have a clue. He took a severe beating right after that.

I looked at the lines and saw a ton of value on Johnson (+220) and Bader (+240). Those were pick em fights IMO. I only had the guts to take Bader, but I cashed in.

Yeah I had money on Bader and Sam S

Every fight i've seen with Phil Davis has been boring. He's all show and no go.

Raw Dawgin' it;1699798 wrote:From the gif, it looks the like punch led to it. He hit Gus and Gus sort of fell into Rumbles head from the punch.

Yeah I'm definitely not saying it was intentional, but certainly it rocked him even further.

Raw Dawgin' it;1699851 wrote:Every fight i've seen with Phil Davis has been boring. He's all show and no go.

He seems to have plateaued as a fighter, he's a tremendous wrestler and athlete but he seems content trying to steal rounds and point fight. I don't know that I've ever seen him hurt someone in any of his fights.

That initial punch landed on Gus landed more so on the neck it looked like.

robj55;1699946 wrote:Yeah I'm definitely not saying it was intentional, but certainly it rocked him even further.

If it's the by product of a punch, can the fight be called a no contest?

Raw Dawgin' it;1699953 wrote:If it's the by product of a punch, can the fight be called a no contest?

I wouldn't think so but I have no idea, the commissions never overturn things like that anyway.

A few more days until this legendary fight goes down, can't wait!

robj55;1699645 wrote:boo!!! I know Nick probably won't win but I just hope it's an incredible fight, has all the makings to be.

Only if Silva has MAJOR ring rust.

Even the Silva that lost twice to Wiedman absolutely kills Diaz. Seriously, if Silva is "ok" after his injury and is ready to fight, this fight isn't close.

Who has Diaz beat in the last couple years that makes someone believe he can make it a good fight with Silva?

jmog;1700793 wrote:Only if Silva has MAJOR ring rust.

Even the Silva that lost twice to Wiedman absolutely kills Diaz. Seriously, if Silva is "ok" after his injury and is ready to fight, this fight isn't close.

Who has Diaz beat in the last couple years that makes someone believe he can make it a good fight with Silva?

Who has Silva beat in the last few years that was that great honestly? Other than catching Vitor with a front kick he reigned over an incredibly weak MW division and half the guys he fought were scared to death of him. The guys who weren't timid had a ton of success against him. Nick has knocked out many dangerous strikers.

who is Nick Diaz's best win ever?

Pick6;1700816 wrote:who is Nick Diaz's best win ever?

Gomi was number one in the world when he beat him, Paul Daley, Robbie Lawler, BJ Penn. I'm not trying to disparage Anderson but he beat up on weak competition for years in the MW division.

Where is Nick Diaz

sportchampps;1700879 wrote:Where is Nick Diaz

In Vegas, that whole thing seemed like a promotional ploy to me.

sportchampps;1700879 wrote:Where is Nick Diaz

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robj55;1700836 wrote:Gomi was number one in the world when he beat him, Paul Daley, Robbie Lawler, BJ Penn. I'm not trying to disparage Anderson but he beat up on weak competition for years in the MW division.

Gomi was a LW, BJ was a LW, Daley was never that good and Lawler is the only good name on that list for a guy now going up to MW to fight one of the all time best.

To answer the question about Silva.

Here's his last 5 to 7 wins...

Bonnar (yeah, not good)
Sonnen
Okami
Belfort
Sonnen
Maia
Griffin (ex-LHW champ)

Sorry, but beating a Griffin, Maia, Belfort and Sonnen is better than Gomi, Daley, even Lawler. All of those guys are LHW and MWs, 2 or 3 divisions away from the LWs that Nick has big wins against.

Nick is a great boxer, but overall standup is nowhere near Silva. Silva is on a different level.
Nick is most likely better on the ground but his takedowns are bad, so I don't see this fight going to the ground. So his one major advantage, his BJJ, probably won't matter.

So, a fight that is most likely going to be all standing he is going against a guy that is bigger than him by about 20-30 lbs, has a much longer reach, and is on a completely different level.

I am not a Silva fan, I hate his antics in the ring almost as much as Diaz brothers, but anyone that can look at Gomi and Daley and use that as evidence that Diaz is even close to Silva is a true Diaz nut hugger.

I am not trying to be a jerk, just being honest. Take the blinders off. The Diaz brothers are great fighters, but he is going up about 1.5 weight classes and fighting one of the best in the world. He isn't fighting an average MW here. Plus he is fighting someone who is better at what Diaz likes to do (stand and trade).

robj55;1700886 wrote:In Vegas, that whole thing seemed like a promotional ploy to me.

It seemed really, really forced.

I agree the competition was not great for Silva in his MW title reign. However, his destruction's of Franklin (2x), prime Marquardt, prime Hendo, and TRT Vitor were way above anything Diaz has done. If he loses to Diaz, he 100% should hang em up.

This fight could go either way. Silva off a devastating injury. Nick who knows but he will bring it for better or worse. I'm pumped.

Zoltan;1701013 wrote:
I agree the competition was not great for Silva in his MW title reign. However, his destruction's of Franklin (2x), prime Marquardt, prime Hendo, and TRT Vitor were way above anything Diaz has done. If he loses to Diaz, he 100% should hang em up.

I agree with all of this.

I think Diaz is going to look pretty small against Silva. He needs to not get caught in Silva's clinch and make this as much of a boxing match as possible. I'm not sure he has the strength to submit Silva. Diaz always comes to fight and both fighters like to entertain so i think it'll be fun no matter what. Plus Diaz is gonna get paid.

gerb131;1701031 wrote:This fight could go either way. Silva off a devastating injury. Nick who knows but he will bring it for better or worse. I'm pumped.

Technically you are correct, EVERY fight could go either way. I could technically KO Anderson Silva.

In the real world, realistically, Diaz is too small and not good enough to beat Silva. Diaz's only chance is if Silva is severely gun shy due to his injury and has MAJOR ring rust.

They are 1.5 weight classes apart and Silva is a much better fighter on top of it.

jmog;1701103 wrote:Technically you are correct, EVERY fight could go either way. I could technically KO Anderson Silva.

In the real world, realistically, Diaz is too small and not good enough to beat Silva. Diaz's only chance is if Silva is severely gun shy due to his injury and has MAJOR ring rust.

They are 1.5 weight classes apart and Silva is a much better fighter on top of it.

Seems like you're basing this entire thing on size.