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Jan 24, 2012 2:03 PM
SportsAndLady;1064137 wrote:Did I say those 4 QBs are elite?

No. I did not.

I said I think of elite as the 2 or 3 best at their position.

Then I said Eli is not better than Manning, Brees, Brady, or Rodgers.

Comprende'?
lol so which one isn't elite then?
Jan 24, 2012 2:03pm
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Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1064141 wrote:lol so which one isn't elite then?
Brady and Rodgers are elite.
Jan 24, 2012 2:59pm
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Jan 24, 2012 3:25 PM
SportsAndLady;1064221 wrote:Brady and Rodgers are elite.
lol but the guy who crushed Marinos' passing record isn't. gtfo
Jan 24, 2012 3:25pm
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Jan 24, 2012 4:15 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1064271 wrote:lol but the guy who crushed Marinos' passing record isn't. gtfo
Stafford came pretty close, didn't he? Do you consider him elite? lol
Jan 24, 2012 4:15pm
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Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM
SportsAndLady;1064221 wrote:Brady and Rodgers are elite.
Peyton?

Also, Brees to this date > Rodgers to this date.
Jan 24, 2012 4:25pm
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Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM
SportsAndLady;1064341 wrote:Stafford came pretty close, didn't he? Do you consider him elite? lol
lol you're not comparing Brees to Stafford? Give me a break. Is stafford on pace to break Unitis' TD pass record too?

lol brees and manning aren't elite....wow smh
Jan 24, 2012 4:32pm
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Jan 24, 2012 4:57 PM
SportsAndLady;1064221 wrote:Brady and Rodgers are elite.
Brees and P. Manning are not Elite but Rogers is. Is it the discount double check commercials that put Rogers over the top for you? smh But I am not really surprised by this considering the source.
If there can only 2 Elite QB's at one time who was Elite and who wasn't when Elway,Montana,Marino and Kelly were playing?
Jan 24, 2012 4:57pm
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Jan 24, 2012 5:01 PM
Laley23;1064350 wrote:Peyton?

Also, Brees to this date > Rodgers to this date.
I'd probably put Brees as that 3rd elite player. Again, if 5 players at a position are elite, that kinda contradicts the definition of elite. I define elite as the top 2 maybe top 3 at their position. Obviously Manning would be there if not for all these injury complications. I guess thats sort of a cop-out for me but I mean it's true, how can you put someone at the top of their position if he hasn't played in over a year? And may never play again?

I feel like you guys are freaking out over this lol it's just one man's opinion on elite status in the NFL. Brees, Rodgers, Manning, and Brady are ridiculous players at their position, some of the best we've ever seen...and all 4 of them are playing at the same time. Just because Brees may be outside of Brady and Rodgers for me doesn't mean I still don't consider him one of the best to play the position.
Jan 24, 2012 5:01pm
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Jan 24, 2012 5:04 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1064364 wrote:lol you're not comparing Brees to Stafford? Give me a break. Is stafford on pace to break Unitis' TD pass record too?

lol brees and manning aren't elite....wow smh
No i'm saying if you're going to say Brees should be up there because he broke a record, shouldn't STafford be up there since he came like a hundred yards short of that record?

And I never said "brees and manning aren't elite"...I'm saying Manning is elite but the guy may never play football again; and if he comes back and isn't the same old Manning, then what? And Brees, I guess I would put at that 3rd elite status. But being behind Rodgers and Brady doesn't exactly mean he's shit lol

So i'll summarize:

Elite:
Brady
Rodgers
Brees

Would be elite if he played:
Manning

Just behind elite status:
Eli
Jan 24, 2012 5:04pm
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Jan 24, 2012 6:07 PM
Breakdown of Super Bowl rosters:

By college (schools represented by more than one player):
6 -- Boston College
5 -- Rutgers
4 -- Florida, Fresno State, LSU, Miami, Michigan, Virginia
3 -- Arkansas, Michigan State, Mississippi, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Tennessee, Troy
2 -- Akron, Alabama, Arizona State, California, Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon, South Florida, TCU, UCLA

By conference:
23 -- SEC
22 -- Big Ten
19 -- ACC
15 -- Big East, Pac-12
5 -- Big 12, Conference USA, MAC, WAC
4 -- Sun Belt
3 -- Mountain West
Jan 24, 2012 6:07pm
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Jan 24, 2012 11:17 PM
Elite:
Brady
Brees
Peyton Manning
Rodgers
BIG BEN
Jan 24, 2012 11:17pm
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Jan 24, 2012 11:53 PM
BearBoy69;1064694 wrote:Elite:
Brady
Brees
Peyton Manning
Rodgers
BIG BEN
Nope.
Jan 24, 2012 11:53pm
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Jan 25, 2012 12:06 AM
BearBoy69;1064694 wrote:Elite:
Brady
Brees
Peyton Manning
Rodgers
BIG BEN
take your blinders off old man...big ben is top 10..not top 5
Jan 25, 2012 12:06am
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Jan 25, 2012 12:15 AM
He also thinks tebow will be a qb for years to come. Slow.
Jan 25, 2012 12:15am
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Jan 25, 2012 12:27 AM
nvm
Jan 25, 2012 12:27am
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Jan 25, 2012 8:07 AM
BearBoy69;1064694 wrote:Elite:
Brady
Brees
Peyton Manning
Rodgers
BIG BEN
gtfo
Jan 25, 2012 8:07am
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Jan 25, 2012 9:20 AM
Elite QB's:

Brady
P Manning
Brees
Rogers
E. Manning

You cannot spell Elite without Eli.:thumbup:
Jan 25, 2012 9:20am
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Jan 25, 2012 9:37 AM
If Eli has finally grown passed the "hey, I am going to throw 4-6 ints this game" stage of his career, then yeah I would consider him elite.
Jan 25, 2012 9:37am
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Jan 25, 2012 10:35 AM
If Eli is elite then so is Cam Newton.

Other note: Even if Ben is not elite, he is def still top five, 2 SB rings, 3 appearances, a healthy Big Ben is dangerous, right now he makes that offense
Jan 25, 2012 10:35am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:23 AM
BearBoy69;1065009 wrote:If Eli is elite then so is Cam Newton.

Other note: Even if Ben is not elite, he is def still top five, 2 SB rings, 3 appearances, a healthy Big Ben is dangerous, right now he makes that offense
Championships dont make you elite. I fucking hate that shit. Stats weigh more imo. Ben falls well short on elite status.
Jan 25, 2012 11:23am
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Jan 25, 2012 11:45 AM
Laley23;1065074 wrote:Championships dont make you elite. I fucking hate that shit. Stats weigh more imo. Ben falls well short on elite status.
What about come from behind wins?

When you combine is record and stats Roethlisberger is definitely in the "elite" category IMO. He's not quite up there w/ Brady, Rodgers, Brees or Manning....but right after them. I'd say he is in the 2nd tier of QBs, right along with Eli.
Jan 25, 2012 11:45am
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Jan 25, 2012 12:59 PM
BearBoy69;1065009 wrote:If Eli is elite then so is Cam Newton.

Other note: Even if Ben is not elite, he is def still top five, 2 SB rings, 3 appearances, a healthy Big Ben is dangerous, raping bitches, right now he makes that offense
fixed it for ya and that alone makes you not elite
Jan 25, 2012 12:59pm
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Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM
Automatik;1065109 wrote:What about come from behind wins?

When you combine is record and stats Roethlisberger is definitely in the "elite" category IMO. He's not quite up there w/ Brady, Rodgers, Brees or Manning....but right after them. I'd say he is in the 2nd tier of QBs, right along with Eli.
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For once i agree with you... i must be going crazy!

and DeyDurkie.... i cant say anything because that made me ROFL
Jan 25, 2012 1:52pm
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Jan 25, 2012 1:54 PM
Laley23;1065074 wrote:Championships dont make you elite. I ****ing hate that ****. Stats weigh more imo. Ben falls well short on elite status.
It should be taken into consideration. You better have had a helluva good career w/o any championships to be elite.

The only reason i am rooting against Eli is because it'd be a crime if he had more rings than Peyton. Eli only wishes to be as good as Peyton
Jan 25, 2012 1:54pm