gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 18, 2012 1:31pm
Where you looking in Chitown? I would suggest you live on the far South Side, or Englewood. Classy neighborhoods, those.SportsAndLady;1057281 wrote:So I just got to my buddy's house, we are getting an apartment in Chicago together...cmae over here to search craigslist for cheap apartments. Fuckin Craigslist is blacked out lol
Also, here: http://chicago.craigslist.org/h
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Jan 18, 2012 1:33pm
Lol. Reps.LJ;1057073 wrote:I sent my rep a picture of his wife and said "what are you going to masturbate to if this passes?"
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Jan 18, 2012 1:40pm
Yet another thing politicians are doing that doesn't impact our country positively. Let's not fix our problems...
And those that are complaining about Wikipedia, it's not a bad site to use. It's not "academic" by any means. But there are studies that show it's more accurate than the Encyclopedia's that people have sitting on their shelves or online. Yes, you don't go to Wikipedia to do a research paper on molecular biology, but it's going to be more accurate on molecular biology than it will be on something like Britney Spears.
And those that are complaining about Wikipedia, it's not a bad site to use. It's not "academic" by any means. But there are studies that show it's more accurate than the Encyclopedia's that people have sitting on their shelves or online. Yes, you don't go to Wikipedia to do a research paper on molecular biology, but it's going to be more accurate on molecular biology than it will be on something like Britney Spears.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 18, 2012 1:45pm
ts1227;1057226 wrote:LOL. Technically doing ANY sort of research is unoriginal because someone else already fucking did it.
And who uses Wikipedia for shit like that to begin with? I can't think of one person who uses it for anything deeper than quick information on a topic that comes up in conversation.
All of the college professors I had would not allow it as a citable source.chicago510;1057248 wrote:This. For example if I forget exactly what the normal blood sugar levels are after a meal in a healthy person I check Wiki because its FAST.
But for my thesis I'm writing on diabetic neuropathy, all of my citations are from the NE Journal of medicine and PubMed.
Both are considered research. I'm not going to go out and run my own studies to figure this out, I don't have the time nor the $$$$.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 18, 2012 1:47pm
Which is why you use the sources cited on the article as your sources (if you're going to do that at all), and not the article itself.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 18, 2012 1:50pm
North Side...my buddy lives in Lakeview, so we're trying to find something close to him. Us 3 are gonna get a place in June when his lease is up, so we're just trying to find something shitty/cheap until then.gorocks99;1057347 wrote:Where you looking in Chitown? I would suggest you live on the far South Side, or Englewood. Classy neighborhoods, those.
Also, here: http://chicago.craigslist.org/h
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 18, 2012 1:56pm
yep. people try to discredit wikipedia, its kind of annoying. Everything is cited with the articles that the information came from linked at the bottom.gorocks99;1057385 wrote:Which is why you use the sources cited on the article as your sources (if you're going to do that at all), and not the article itself.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 18, 2012 1:56pm
Cool - I'm up in East Lakeview, PM me if you have any questions on good/bad areas.SportsAndLady;1057388 wrote:North Side...my buddy lives in Lakeview, so we're trying to find something close to him. Us 3 are gonna get a place in June when his lease is up, so we're just trying to find something shitty/cheap until then.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 18, 2012 1:58pm
also, be glad you live in the U.S. where you can protest something like this. Web censorship is already a common practice in many countries.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Jan 18, 2012 2:17pm
SOPA is the dumbest thing in a while. If I wanted my internet to be censored I'd move to China. I'm more of a fan of things like "civil liberties".
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 18, 2012 2:34pm
Who in the world would ever cite wikipedia?wildcats20;1057381 wrote:All of the college professors I had would not allow it as a citable source.
You use it so that you can get the information quickly and then cite from the source links or from a real academic journal or something. It really isn't that complicated.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Jan 18, 2012 3:20pm
It pains me to say this, but last year I was editing a group paper (was in my last year at Fisher getting my MBA at night) and two people in my group tried to cite Wiki. I let them fucking have it.I Wear Pants;1057489 wrote:Who in the world would ever cite wikipedia?
You use it so that you can get the information quickly and then cite from the source links or from a real academic journal or something. It really isn't that complicated.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 18, 2012 3:23pm
You killed them right? That's what they deserved.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jan 18, 2012 3:30pm
I Wear Pants;1057586 wrote:You killed them right? That's what they deserved.
No doubt
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jan 18, 2012 3:31pm
Lol. OSU at its finest.derek bomar;1057580 wrote:It pains me to say this, but last year I was editing a group paper (was in my last year at Fisher getting my MBA at night) and two people in my group tried to cite Wiki. I let them fucking have it.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 18, 2012 3:36pm
Wikipedia is the most accurate encyclopedia ever created. People think because anyone can edit it that it's not a valid source of credible information. This is largely a myth. Anytime an article is trolled, within 30 seconds to 1 minute it is changed and edited back to the correct statement. Wikipedia also requires you to link other documentation before making any random statement. It is accurate, not perfect, but accurate. The reason the academic community is against allowing wikipedia to be used as a reference is that they want people to be using their very expensive databases of academic journals so they can get paid and continue the dog and pony show.derek bomar;1057580 wrote:It pains me to say this, but last year I was editing a group paper (was in my last year at Fisher getting my MBA at night) and two people in my group tried to cite Wiki. I let them ****ing have it.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Jan 18, 2012 3:42pm
As awful as the bill is, the blackouts are just protesting for the sake of feeling like you did something important. There was and still is zero percent chance this thing passes. It's been put on the back burner by both houses and Obama. Which means it's all but dead.
If they were being honest, they would have simply worded the bill as following "our business model no longer works, HELP!!!!"
If they were being honest, they would have simply worded the bill as following "our business model no longer works, HELP!!!!"
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jan 18, 2012 4:25pm
Care to explain why, in layperson terms?justincredible;1056986 wrote:SOPA and PIPA in their current forms would be the end of the OC.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jan 18, 2012 4:30pm
thats not true. of course if you feel its the end of the world it may.justincredible;1056986 wrote:SOPA and PIPA in their current forms would be the end of the OC.
and isnt already illegal to use or sell copyrighted material on the internet?
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jan 18, 2012 4:31pm
See post 16ernest_t_bass;1057692 wrote:Care to explain why, in layperson terms?
krambman
Posts: 3,606
Jan 18, 2012 4:33pm
If anyone posted or linked to any copyrighted info on the site, the owner of that copyrighted material could call up the US government and have all advertising payments to the site cut off, end advertising on the site, and even prevent browsers from taking you to the site. They could also sue Justin as the site owner for allowing copyright infringement on his site.ernest_t_bass;1057692 wrote:Care to explain why, in layperson terms?
It's the same reason that Google has said they would basically have to shut down YouTube the day this bill became law.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jan 18, 2012 5:05pm
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jan 18, 2012 5:10pm
Glory Days;1057705 wrote:thats not true. of course if you feel its the end of the world it may.
and isnt already illegal to use or sell copyrighted material on the internet?
What he said.krambman;1057713 wrote:If anyone posted or linked to any copyrighted info on the site, the owner of that copyrighted material could call up the US government and have all advertising payments to the site cut off, end advertising on the site, and even prevent browsers from taking you to the site. They could also sue Justin as the site owner for allowing copyright infringement on his site.
It's the same reason that Google has said they would basically have to shut down YouTube the day this bill became law.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 18, 2012 5:34pm
Same.I Wear Pants;1057291 wrote:I use wikipedia. It can help give an idea of what's going on with the topic and then you can use the source links to get to citeable research/articles.
I know that SOPA has been essentially killed until major changes are made, but is PIPA in the same boat? I thought that one made some progress through the Senate before all of the outrage hit.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Jan 18, 2012 6:20pm
