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2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Jan 27, 2012 9:00 PM
Holmgren should be calling the plays and coaching, as he has been a lousy exexutive for most of his career.

Everyone in this organization except Heckert is performing the wrong job function.

Holmgren should be coach calling his plays. Chilly as a loyal underling O.C performing the role he played for Andy Reid in Philly.

Shurmur is most competent as a position coach where he can be nameless and faceless, not to mention being no where near a game plan or play calling (29th, 26th, and 29th in his 3 seasons as a play caller in terms of overall offense).

My frustration as a fan is that we have the pieces, just they are all performing roles they aren't good at. We are littered with square pegs in round holes.

Bruce Hooley today on KNR was talking about how around the league when you ask about the Cleveland Browns to other executives one of the first responses is arrogant, not to mention we are being laughed at over this Bob Lamonte obsession where we only higher people that will keep the commission in the family.

As I read, Childress fits right in with the gang because he is arrogant and above reproach as well. This whole regime is living in their own little world.

How in his right mind could Mike Holmgren allow Pat to keep calling his own plays when he has a coordinator now after what transpired last year, and his entire career up until now?

This is why the media and fans are so hard on these guys, because they just don't seem to get it, and don't want to get it.
Jan 27, 2012 9:00pm
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Jan 27, 2012 9:06 PM
I will quote BR "Someone shit in your cheerios this morning?"
Jan 27, 2012 9:06pm
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Jan 27, 2012 9:13 PM
Not thrilled with the hire. I wanted Sherman. I really think that Shurmur needs to focus on being an HC not call the plays.
Jan 27, 2012 9:13pm
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Jan 27, 2012 9:17 PM
IggyPride00;1068088 wrote:Holmgren should be calling the plays and coaching, as he has been a lousy exexutive for most of his career.

Everyone in this organization except Heckert is performing the wrong job function.

Holmgren should be coach calling his plays. Chilly as a loyal underling O.C performing the role he played for Andy Reid in Philly.

Shurmur is most competent as a position coach where he can be nameless and faceless, not to mention being no where near a game plan or play calling (29th, 26th, and 29th in his 3 seasons as a play caller in terms of overall offense).

My frustration as a fan is that we have the pieces, just they are all performing roles they aren't good at. We are littered with square pegs in round holes.

Bruce Hooley today on KNR was talking about how around the league when you ask about the Cleveland Browns to other executives one of the first responses is arrogant, not to mention we are being laughed at over this Bob Lamonte obsession where we only higher people that will keep the commission in the family.

As I read, Childress fits right in with the gang because he is arrogant and above reproach as well. This whole regime is living in their own little world.

How in his right mind could Mike Holmgren allow Pat to keep calling his own plays when he has a coordinator now after what transpired last year, and his entire career up until now?

This is why the media and fans are so hard on these guys, because they just don't seem to get it, and don't want to get it.
yawn..there are 31 other teams in this league. bye bye iggy
Jan 27, 2012 9:17pm
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Jan 27, 2012 9:42 PM
DeyDurkie5;1068110 wrote:yawn..there are 31 other teams in this league. bye bye iggy

Yeah no kidding that dude bitches more than my fiancé. That's saying something lol
Jan 27, 2012 9:42pm
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Jan 27, 2012 9:44 PM
Crimson streak;1068150 wrote:Yeah no kidding that dude bitches more than my fiancé. That's saying something lol
You're fiance is iggy pride 01?

edit: I bit my tongue for your sake.
Jan 27, 2012 9:44pm
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Jan 28, 2012 12:55 AM
So what the fuck was the point in hiring Chill if Patty Boy is going to be making the play calls?
Jan 28, 2012 12:55am
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Jan 28, 2012 1:23 AM
like_that;1068263 wrote:So what the fuck was the point in hiring Chill if Patty Boy is going to be making the play calls?
I don't believe Shurmur will continue to call plays. That might be what they're saying now; sure. But no way does Childress take this position without having any "real" duties.
Jan 28, 2012 1:23am
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Jan 28, 2012 1:30 AM
like_that;1068263 wrote:So what the **** was the point in hiring Chill if Patty Boy is going to be making the play calls?
He is a Bob Lamonte client. That is all that it takes to get a job in Cleveland.
Bob LaMonte, the NFL superagent who represents Browns President Mike Holmgren, Browns GM Tom Heckert, Browns Executive Vice President Bryan Wiedmeier, Browns head coach Pat Shurmur, Browns quarterbacks coach Mark Whipple, and Offensive Coordinator Brad Childress.
This guy is cleaning up the commissions right now as he gets to sit on both sides of the table.
Jan 28, 2012 1:30am
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Jan 28, 2012 1:37 AM
IggyPride00;1068275 wrote:He is a Bob Lamonte client. That is all that it takes to get a job in Cleveland.
Some of LaMonte's clients include: If that's all it takes (being his client), looks like Lerner can pick and choose from a pretty decent list.
Jan 28, 2012 1:37am
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Jan 28, 2012 2:35 AM
BR1986FB;1068071 wrote:How are they going to find her? They all look the same...
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http://www.wtae.com/r/30295500/detail.html
They don't shave their arm pits over there either.
Jan 28, 2012 2:35am
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Jan 28, 2012 11:35 AM
like_that;1068263 wrote:So what the **** was the point in hiring Chill if Patty Boy is going to be making the play calls?
unfucking real. why hire a OC if youre still calling the plays. doesn't make sense.
Jan 28, 2012 11:35am
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Jan 28, 2012 12:41 PM
shook_17;1068399 wrote:unfucking real. why hire a OC if youre still calling the plays. doesn't make sense.
My understanding is that when Childress was the OC in Philly he'd give Andy Reid the option of 3 plays and Reid made the final call. I'm assuming Shurmur will do something similar.
Jan 28, 2012 12:41pm
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Jan 28, 2012 12:52 PM
BR1986FB;1068443 wrote:My understanding is that when Childress was the OC in Philly he'd give Andy Reid the option of 3 plays and Reid made the final call. I'm assuming Shurmur will do something similar.
lol thats a joke. Everyone gets a ribbon mentality.
Jan 28, 2012 12:52pm
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Jan 28, 2012 12:55 PM
BR1986FB;1068443 wrote:My understanding is that when Childress was the OC in Philly he'd give Andy Reid the option of 3 plays and Reid made the final call. I'm assuming Shurmur will do something similar.
That is a little better than Shurmur choosing between his usual 4 plays that he has every game.
Jan 28, 2012 12:55pm
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Jan 28, 2012 10:10 PM
SportsAndLady;1068278 wrote:Some of LaMonte's clients include: If that's all it takes (being his client), looks like Lerner can pick and choose from a pretty decent list.

Thank you...tell the Cleveland radio station this too.
Jan 28, 2012 10:10pm
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Jan 29, 2012 9:31 AM
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2012/01/28/browns-add-chilly-to-spice-up-offense-former-head-coach-brad-childress-named-offensive-coordinator-but-pat-shurmur-to-still-call-plays/

http://morningjournal.com/articles/2012/01/28/sports/doc4f24c41c3b6cc670946780.txt?viewmode=default

http://morningjournal.com/articles/2012/01/28/sports/doc4f24acafa2d7b678538616.txt

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2012/01/new_cleveland_browns_offensive.html

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/01/philadelphia_eagles_coach_andy.html
Jan 29, 2012 9:31am
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Jan 30, 2012 8:16 AM
29th January, 2012 - 12:38 pmNFL.com - Not much progress has been made between the Eagles and DeSean Jackson in regards to a new contract, according to a report.

The talks have lingered over the Eagles for almost a year and it figures to make headlines even more as the wide receiver gets closer to free agency.

Jackson just finished the final year of his four-year rookie contract that was scheduled to pay him $600,000 in 2011.

According to a report, Jackson would accept a franchise tag from the Eagles if that's the move the team prefers.

That doesn't seem to be a likely outcome, however, as the tag would command Jackson a 2012 salary of $9.5 million.

Hmm seems more likely that D Jax might be a FA.
Jan 30, 2012 8:16am
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Jan 30, 2012 8:58 AM
Any team in the league would be an idiot not to pay Desean.
Jan 30, 2012 8:58am
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Jan 30, 2012 9:37 AM

"Pat's a heck of a play-caller," I stopped reading after that.
Jan 30, 2012 9:37am
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Jan 30, 2012 11:24 AM
gerb131;1069797 wrote:Any team in the league would be an idiot not to pay Desean.
I'd take em in Cleveland
Jan 30, 2012 11:24am
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Jan 30, 2012 11:25 AM
So would I.
Jan 30, 2012 11:25am
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Jan 30, 2012 12:01 PM
I really want them to get Jackson and then go get a garcon, or meachem as well. Get some young vets at wr.
Jan 30, 2012 12:01pm
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Jan 30, 2012 12:03 PM
If we get DJax, I dont see a need for Meachem. I'm not really interested in Meachem period. If we got DJax AND Garcon, that'd be amazing. Don't see it happening.
Jan 30, 2012 12:03pm
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Jan 30, 2012 1:18 PM
I would just like to see them go get two fa wr's who are still young in their careers...
Jan 30, 2012 1:18pm