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Oct 29, 2012 5:16 AM
Pick6;1306478 wrote:who do you think is a better realistic candidate than Gruden?
Not necessarily "better" but a more realistic option would be Todd Bowles.

And as far as Lombardi? Guy is a snake.
Oct 29, 2012 5:16am
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Oct 29, 2012 6:58 AM
BR1986FB;1306989 wrote:Not necessarily "better" but a more realistic option would be Todd Bowles.

And as far as Lombardi? Guy is a snake.
Def agree about Lombardi....he is shady
Oct 29, 2012 6:58am
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Oct 29, 2012 8:22 AM
@DMurph_BrownsPR: Trent Richardson's 5 rushing TDs are the most by a #Browns rookie in the team’s first 8 games since 1969 (RonJohnson, five)
Oct 29, 2012 8:22am
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Oct 29, 2012 12:26 PM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php - CLEVELAND BROWNS: JARVIS JONES, OLB, GEORGIA

http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/29553/20121027/2013_nfl_mock_draft_version_20/ - 3. Cleveland Browns: Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State. [LEFT]
lol at taking a DT, probably the area of our greatest depth. Risdon continually proving to be an asshat.
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Oct 29, 2012 12:33 PM
Commander of Awesome;1307190 wrote:http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php - CLEVELAND BROWNS: JARVIS JONES, OLB, GEORGIA

http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/29553/20121027/2013_nfl_mock_draft_version_20/ - 3. Cleveland Browns: Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State. [LEFT]
lol at taking a DT, probably the area of our greatest depth. Risdon continually proving to be an asshat.
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Damn it would be nice if they were in a position to trade down a few, get Jarvis Jones and find a way to trade back up for Manti Te'o. We'd have a helluva linebacking corps.
Oct 29, 2012 12:33pm
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Oct 29, 2012 12:36 PM
BR1986FB;1307200 wrote:Damn it would be nice if they were in a position to trade down a few, get Jarvis Jones and find a way to trade back up for Manti Te'o. We'd have a helluva linebacking corps.
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I was thinking the same thing watching both of them play saturday.
Oct 29, 2012 12:36pm
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Oct 29, 2012 12:38 PM
BR1986FB;1307200 wrote:Damn it would be nice if they were in a position to trade down a few, get Jarvis Jones and find a way to trade back up for Manti Te'o. We'd have a helluva linebacking corps.
I think we're set at LBer. I want a monster DE, or a legit FS. SICK of watching Ward get lost out there. Safety is our weakest link on def IMO. Ward is a glorified LBer out there. So I want a stud DE or trade down for one of the top safeties (Reid or McDonald).
Oct 29, 2012 12:38pm
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Oct 29, 2012 12:57 PM
OQB;1307204 wrote:'


I was thinking the same thing .
Shocker
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Oct 29, 2012 12:58 PM
IggyPride00;1307124 wrote:

In all seriousness, a roof was mentioned by new ownership wasn't it? Or did I misread that?
Oct 29, 2012 12:58pm
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Oct 29, 2012 1:00 PM
Commander of Awesome;1307207 wrote:I think we're set at LBer. I want a monster DE, or a legit FS. SICK of watching Ward get lost out there. Safety is our weakest link on def IMO. Ward is a glorified LBer out there. So I want a stud DE or trade down for one of the top safeties (Reid or McDonald).
to be honest, Ward fucks up some, but I dont think he is used right. I really see him as a Polamalu-type. Also, Ward is SS, not FS.
Oct 29, 2012 1:00pm
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Oct 29, 2012 1:19 PM
Ward got torched on that dropped easy touchdown...not sure on who the receiver was.
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BR1986FB;1307200 wrote:Damn it would be nice if they were in a position to trade down a few, get Jarvis Jones and find a way to trade back up for Manti Te'o. We'd have a helluva linebacking corps.
I would [adsense] my pants if they could pull that off. Although, we already have a ILB though. Somebody would have to make a transition.
Commander of Awesome;1307207 wrote:I think we're set at LBer. I want a monster DE, or a legit FS. SICK of watching Ward get lost out there. Safety is our weakest link on def IMO. Ward is a glorified LBer out there. So I want a stud DE or trade down for one of the top safeties (Reid or McDonald).
I disagree with safety being the weakest link, however if we could do BR's above scenario and get Jones + a legit DE, I would also [adsense] my pants.
Pick6;1307246 wrote:to be honest, Ward fucks up some, but I dont think he is used right. I really see him as a Polamalu-type. Also, Ward is SS, not FS.
He is a poor man's Polamalu-type. He isn't great, but he isn't as bad as COA is making him out to be. Definitely not bad enough to make it a high enough priority to get a new safety.
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wes_mantooth;1307269 wrote:Ward got torched on that dropped easy touchdown...not sure on who the receiver was.
Meachem. Ward didn't even try to cover him. He clearly fucked that up.
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Oct 29, 2012 1:24 PM
like_that;1307271 wrote:Ward didn't even try to cover him. He clearly fucked that up.
He seems to do that a lot.
Oct 29, 2012 1:24pm
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Oct 29, 2012 1:25 PM
BR1986FB;1307277 wrote:He seems to do that a lot.
yeah, i think he pretty much loves to hit, but that is about it. Terrible in coverage
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Oct 29, 2012 1:30 PM
wes_mantooth;1307279 wrote:yeah, i think he pretty much loves to hit, but that is about it. Terrible in coverage
Brutal in coverage and hands of stone. I think he dropped three pick 6's his rookie year. One was gift wrapped by TheRapist. Good against the run though.
Oct 29, 2012 1:30pm
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Oct 29, 2012 1:31 PM
Yeah he does fuck that up a lot. He's a SS but they have him playing FS. His coverage skills are some of the worst in the league IMO. Get a legit FS in here, moving him to SS upgrades two positions with one pick.

And yes like_that, it is the weakest position on our defense. Followed by LOLBer (Maivia, SMH) but once they start playing Robertson and Fort more it will be better. JMJ looks like a keeper, we get Gocong back next season, OLBer is no longer a priority. DE and safety, biggest need IMO followed by an NFL caliber guard and a WR.
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Oct 29, 2012 1:38 PM
Commander of Awesome;1307285 wrote:Yeah he does fuck that up a lot. He's a SS but they have him playing FS. His coverage skills are some of the worst in the league IMO. Get a legit FS in here, moving him to SS upgrades two positions with one pick.

And yes like_that, it is the weakest position on our defense. Followed by LOLBer (Maivia, SMH) but once they start playing Foote and Fort more it will be better. JMJ looks like a keeper, we get Gocong back next season, OLBer is no longer a priority. DE and safety, biggest need IMO followed by an NFL caliber guard and a WR.
I agree with your first point. Move him to a real SS position, he will look a lot better. Still not sold on using a draft pick on a FS though. Offense still has some needs too. I'd be ok with trying to throw some money at a real FS in FA though.

Solid point about Gocong. Forgot about him, however I am not sold he will get back to his form as soon as he is back.
Oct 29, 2012 1:38pm
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Oct 29, 2012 1:44 PM
What FS will be available in FA? You want another Usama Young? Abe Elam? I sure as hell don't. Spend the draft pick and get a STUD FS. I doubt Baltimore and Pitt regret using a 1st on Reed and Polomalu.
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Commander of Awesome;1307301 wrote:What FS will be available in FA? You want another Usama Young? Abe Elam? I sure as hell don't. Spend the draft pick and get a STUD FS. I doubt Baltimore and Pitt regret using a 1st on Reed and Polomalu.
Haven't really looked at the FA list, but I think reed is one lol. I just think there are much bigger needs in the first round than a safety. If the Browns get a safety in the first round I would hope they traded down before making that pick.
Oct 29, 2012 2:09pm
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Oct 29, 2012 2:09 PM
If Andy Reid gets fired, do you think the Browns would go after him? Would you want him as a coach?
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Oct 29, 2012 2:12 PM
like_that;1307330 wrote:Haven't really looked at the FA list, but I think reed is one lol. I just think there are much bigger needs in the first round than a safety. If the Browns get a safety in the first round I would hope they traded down before making that pick.
Obv we differ on needs for the Browns, so I think safety is a big need. DE is #1 (hell just a pass rush in general. Stud OLBer is there I wouldn't QQ), followed by safety, guard, then WR.
Oct 29, 2012 2:12pm