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Jan 19, 2012 12:06 PM
and Wright at #22.
Jan 19, 2012 12:06pm
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Jan 19, 2012 12:09 PM
Of course we all know that Kiper's word is like gospel, so I fully expect this to happen lol
Jan 19, 2012 12:09pm
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Jan 19, 2012 12:15 PM
No doubt, Chount Chocula is always right.
Jan 19, 2012 12:15pm
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Jan 19, 2012 12:15 PM
BR1986FB;1058652 wrote:And then Tony Grossi's tweet regarding Lerner... "He's a pathetic figure, the most irrelevant billionaire in the world." which he immediately erased. Reporters are entitled to their opinion but that was a bit out of line. If I'm Holmgren, I'm pulling Grossi's press pass.

Grossi is a prick. He represents everything wrong with Cleveland media
Jan 19, 2012 12:15pm
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Jan 19, 2012 12:20 PM
Grossi writes more Science fiction than anything for the PD. Dude is garbage.
Jan 19, 2012 12:20pm
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Jan 19, 2012 1:11 PM
wildcats20;1058844 wrote:Kiper's latest mock has the Brownies taking RG3 with the 4th pick.
Commander of Awesome;1058849 wrote:and Wright at #22.
would love both selections...just can't see rg3 still being there at 4
Jan 19, 2012 1:11pm
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Jan 19, 2012 3:45 PM
dazedconfused;1058999 wrote:would love both selections...just can't see rg3 still being there at 4

They were talking about it on the fan yesterday. Word is the Rams want Blackmon but know if they trade down past the Browns he will likely be gone. I think there is a good chance RG3 is there at 4 unless the redskins or dolphins pull a Ditka and offer up their entire draft.
Jan 19, 2012 3:45pm
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Jan 19, 2012 4:15 PM
hangonsloopy;1059258 wrote:They were talking about it on the fan yesterday. Word is the Rams want Blackmon but know if they trade down past the Browns he will likely be gone. I think there is a good chance RG3 is there at 4 unless the redskins or dolphins pull a Ditka and offer up their entire draft.
I agree. Obviously the Rams would love to move down to 4 and get either Blackmon or Kalil. But, if I am the Browns, I stay put (or trade down myself). Like you mentioned, the Rams don't want to move down so far that they don't get one of those 2 guys unless someone blows them away in a trade offer. Maybe some team goes wild and gives up a ton to move to #2 to get RGIII, but I would take the chance that no one does.
Jan 19, 2012 4:15pm
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Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM
Wooball;1059292 wrote:I agree. Obviously the Rams would love to move down to 4 and get either Blackmon or Kalil. But, if I am the Browns, I stay put (or trade down myself). Like you mentioned, the Rams don't want to move down so far that they don't get one of those 2 guys unless someone blows them away in a trade offer. Maybe some team goes wild and gives up a ton to move to #2 to get RGIII, but I would take the chance that no one does.
just have to hope blackmon and kalil blow away the combine to the point where the separation between them and floyd/reiff is too great to trade out for the vikings and rams. rg3 would add so much excitement to the team
Jan 19, 2012 5:25pm
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Jan 19, 2012 6:38 PM
ABJ_Browns Nate Ulrich
On conference call, ESPN's Mel Kiper said he believes RG3 will be picked
2nd-4th. No. 2 would be via trade. Said he can't project trades.

ESPN's
Mel Kiper on # Browns in draft: "They have
to get a quarterback. ... They're probably gonna kick Colt McCoy to the curb."
# NFL

ESPN's Mel Kiper said # Browns need WR in draft. In 1st mock, he
has them taking Baylor WR Kendall Wright at No. 22. Likes RG3-Wright
tandem.

ESPN's Mel Kiper said he thinks # Browns would pick WR Justin Blackmon or
RB Trent Richardson if another team trades up to take RG3 at No. 2


freeplions Freep Lions
Mel Kiper on draft teleconference says he hears Redskins
aren't interested in Matt Flynn, would like Peyton Manning.
Jan 19, 2012 6:38pm
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BR1986FB;1059414 wrote: freeplions Freep Lions
Mel Kiper on draft teleconference says he hears Redskins
aren't interested in Matt Flynn, would like Peyton Manning.
Did they consult Youngblood?
Jan 19, 2012 7:59pm
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Jan 19, 2012 8:33 PM
if they take Richardson I am going to quit.
Jan 19, 2012 8:33pm
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Jan 19, 2012 8:38 PM
derek bomar;1059496 wrote:if they take Richardson I am going to quit.
I think Heckert's too smart for that. He's all about value. If their guy isn't there at 4 or they don't trade up, I could see him trading back as far as 15 and then taking Richardson. I'd have no problem with Richardson there. If they stay put at 4, they could package the #22 with another pick and move up for Richardson. Truth be told, I think Richardson lands in Cincinnati at #17 (think that's their first pick). Heckert should know better than to reach THAT much for Richardson when he could move down. get an extra pick or two and STILL get him....walk down the hill and fuck em' all (old bull, young bull).
Jan 19, 2012 8:38pm
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wildcats20;1058855 wrote:Of course we all know that Kiper's word is like gospel, so I fully expect this to happen lol
Exactly. How Mel Kiper hoodwinked ESPN into that job I'll never know. Only in America folks. When Jake Locker was heading into his senior year at Washington, "Junior" claimed he would be number one overall pick.

Jake Locker? Really Mel?
Jan 20, 2012 1:38am
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Jan 20, 2012 8:31 AM
Give me Bowe and Williams, please.
Jan 20, 2012 8:31am
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Jan 20, 2012 8:40 AM
royal_k;1059926 wrote:Give me Bowe and Williams, please.
That's why I made my comments about Williams in previous posts. After Holmgren brought Reggie White to GB, I could see him trying to lure Williams here. Now whether Williams would be interested in playing here is a different story. Williams/Sheard would cause major havoc with their pass rush. Fun to think about.

Off topic but what are the thoughts on the Browns trying to escalate the funds (almost $6 million) for the stadium renovation? After how they performed last year and the clusterfucks thereafter I think asking for the money is poor timing.
Jan 20, 2012 8:40am
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Jan 20, 2012 9:00 AM
BR1986FB;1059932 wrote:That's why I made my comments about Williams in previous posts. After Holmgren brought Reggie White to GB, I could see him trying to lure Williams here. Now whether Williams would be interested in playing here is a different story. Williams/Sheard would cause major havoc with their pass rush. Fun to think about.

Off topic but what are the thoughts on the Browns trying to escalate the funds (almost $6 million) for the stadium renovation? After how they performed last year and the clusterfucks thereafter I think asking for the money is poor timing.
Def poor timing. What exactly needs to be rennovated at the stadium? I didn't see anything wrong with it, granted I was pretty drunk.
Jan 20, 2012 9:00am
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Jan 20, 2012 9:25 AM
like_that;1059949 wrote:What exactly needs to be rennovated at the stadium? I didn't see anything wrong with it, granted I was pretty drunk.
Exactly! Nobody knows and the city council, and taxpayers, would like to see what these "renovations" are. They said on the radio they should've waited until the day after the draft and if they made a splash the fans would've been like "who cares we got <insert player(s)>."

Off topic (a bit) again but Booms (92.3) was saying that when the stadium was built they had a design for the first see through retractable roof that would've allowed the sun to heat the field on cold days and overhead shots from blimps. Apparently they didn't want to go with it. They should've went with a retractable dome, imo. Might have attracted a Super Bowl.
Jan 20, 2012 9:25am
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Jan 20, 2012 9:34 AM
derek bomar;1059496 wrote:if they take Richardson I am going to quit.
Holmgren probaly see's Shaun Alexander in Richardson it wouldn't surprise me if they pick him.
Jan 20, 2012 9:34am
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Jan 20, 2012 9:35 AM
BR1986FB;1059978 wrote:Exactly! Nobody knows and the city council, and taxpayers, would like to see what these "renovations" are. They said on the radio they should've waited until the day after the draft and if they made a splash the fans would've been like "who cares we got <insert player(s)>."

Off topic (a bit) again but Booms (92.3) was saying that when the stadium was built they had a design for the first see through retractable roof that would've allowed the sun to heat the field on cold days and overhead shots from blimps. Apparently they didn't want to go with it. They should've went with a retractable dome, imo. Might have attracted a Super Bowl.
No idea why they wouldn't add a roof. The city would greatly benefit from a hosted SB. It's still not too late to add a roof.
Jan 20, 2012 9:35am
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Jan 20, 2012 9:42 AM
like_that;1059997 wrote:No idea why they wouldn't add a roof. The city would greatly benefit from a hosted SB. It's still not too late to add a roof.

In this economy you're not going to get an extra couple hundred million to make that happen.
Jan 20, 2012 9:42am
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Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM
bases_loaded;1060010 wrote:In this economy you're not going to get an extra couple hundred million to make that happen.
Agreed. Not only that but they need to put a MUCH better product on the field before asking for anything more.
Jan 20, 2012 9:50am
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Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM
Skyhook79;1059995 wrote:Holmgren probaly see's Shaun Alexander in Richardson it wouldn't surprise me if they pick him.
Man, I hope you're wrong. That would be a reach of epic proportions.
Jan 20, 2012 9:50am
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Jan 20, 2012 10:04 AM
BR1986FB;1060019 wrote:Man, I hope you're wrong. That would be a reach of epic proportions.
I still think they are going to roll with McCoy (even though its a mistake) until they can sign a FA at QB. If Blackmon is gone I can see them taking Richardson over RG3 and getting a good receiver at #22.
Jan 20, 2012 10:04am