Pick6;1256536 wrote:are you saying you dont have faith in Weeden? I dont see it getting worse as long as Weeden is proving that he should be the starter.

BR1986FB;1256547 wrote:It's got nothing to do with whether I have "faith in Weeden" or not.

As Iggy said, they don't need McCoy around so all of his diehard nuthuggers start chanting McCoy's name EVERY time Weeden makes a mistake and he WILL make mistakes as a rookie QB.

It has nothing to do with peer pressure toward the coaching staff either as any competent staff won't bow down to the fans.

The fact of the matter is that Weeden is their guy and he doesn't need the ham & eggers chirping in his ear for McCoy.

like_that;1256548 wrote:First of all, I think you are overestimating the amount of "McCoy nut huggers" out there. I don't think there is many at all.

BR1986FB;1256547 wrote:It's got nothing to do with whether I have "faith in Weeden" or not.

As Iggy said, they don't need McCoy around so all of his diehard nuthuggers start chanting McCoy's name EVERY time Weeden makes a mistake and he WILL make mistakes as a rookie QB.

It has nothing to do with peer pressure toward the coaching staff either as any competent staff won't bow down to the fans.

The fact of the matter is that Weeden is their guy and he doesn't need the ham & eggers chirping in his ear for McCoy.

BR1986FB;1256554 wrote:I bet there are a helluva lot more McCoy supporters in Cleveland than there are people who want to see Weeden succeed. There are a ridiculous amount who still think McCoy got a "raw deal." At first, I thought it was just the clowns on local sports talk but it's not.

Weeden doesn't need it. It's unnecessary to have to deal with that as a rookie.

Pick6;1256560 wrote:My biggest problem is just that Weeden shouldnt have been given the starting job outright without having to earn it. You know Im a McCoy fan, but if Weeden ends up good, then so be it. I still believe it is just a desperation move from Shurmur to cover his ass. Even if Weeden sucks this year, he even has the excuse "he is developing". McCoy may not have shown much, but I dont see how you can think he didnt get a raw deal. I dont know the stats, and Im not going to look them up, but I'd imagine Weeden is the only QB this DECADE (probably longer) drafted after the top 10 and just handed the job. No competition or anything.

like_that;1256565 wrote:I don't buy that. If you took a poll I am willing to bet it would be in heavy favor with moving on with Weeden. There are plenty of teams throughout history who had a popular average at best QB be seated by a top pick. If that top pick started succeeding, nobody gave a fuck. It's all about the wins. Nobody is going to root for Weeden to fail, especially if he is winning.

BR1986FB;1256566 wrote:Andy Dalton (selected 35th) last year. Didn't have to go far to find that.
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Pick6;1256576 wrote:fair enough, although that was a unique situation.

But then I ask, Dalton came in and did a good job, even took the team to the playoffs. So why does Weeden, who is older, get a pass if he doesnt do well?

BR1986FB;1256582 wrote:He probably won't. With new ownership coming in, this could be a one year audition. If Weeden turns out to be "DA Part 2" I'm sure the new regime will want to bring in "their guy." I just pray it's not Barkley if it happens.

like_that;1256565 wrote:I don't buy that. If you took a poll I am willing to bet it would be in heavy favor with moving on with Weeden.

BR1986FB;1256582 wrote:He probably won't. With new ownership coming in, this could be a one year audition. If Weeden turns out to be "DA Part 2" I'm sure the new regime will want to bring in "their guy." I just pray it's not Barkley if it happens.

Terry_Tate;1256647 wrote:Just curious, why not Barkley?

BR1986FB;1256567 wrote:Don't have to "buy it." I see the hatred from the McCoy supporters EVERY day. It doesn't occur on here but there are some first class jackholes hoping for Weeden to fail.

SportsAndLady;1256734 wrote:If I talked to a dozen mentally retarded kids, and they all said that Aaron Rodgers isn't a good QB, does that give me the right to claim that there are a lot of Rodgers haters out there? And that just because I don't hear it on here, it's definitely out there that he's a terrible QB?

Because that's exactly how you sound right now

Tigerfan00;1256738 wrote:And you sound like a complete idiot, as always.

Tigerfan00;1256738 wrote:And you sound like a complete idiot, as always.

BR1986FB;1256547 wrote:It's got nothing to do with whether I have "faith in Weeden" or not.

As Iggy said, they don't need McCoy around so all of his diehard nuthuggers start chanting McCoy's name EVERY time Weeden makes a mistake and he WILL make mistakes as a rookie QB.

It has nothing to do with peer pressure toward the coaching staff either as any competent staff won't bow down to the fans.

The fact of the matter is that Weeden is their guy and he doesn't need the ham & eggers chirping in his ear for McCoy.

BR1986FB;1256554 wrote:I bet there are a helluva lot more McCoy supporters in Cleveland than there are people who want to see Weeden succeed. There are a ridiculous amount who still think McCoy got a "raw deal." At first, I thought it was just the clowns on local sports talk but it's not.

Weeden doesn't need it. It's unnecessary to have to deal with that as a rookie.

lhslep134;1256742 wrote:S&L has a point here. Br keeps bringing up these "McCoy nuthuggers" that he hears from "every day" but none of them are here.

Br, if you want to make a point make a point, but don't bring in a bunch of OTHER people who DONT post on here who DONT represent anything anyone on here has expressed.

Terry_Tate;1256647 wrote:Just curious, why not Barkley?

Footwedge;1256762 wrote:Pete Carroll obviously agrees with the McCoy nuthuggers, just sayin. I would give Weedon the ball to start the season. But if he sucks ass, then he sucks ass. Period. If he sucks ass, then you put in the other guy. That's how sports works.

So far in preseason...and it is preseason, the best quarterback to date has been McCoy...and it's not even close. I don't care who plays...as long as the guy who plays gives the team the best chance to win. Pete Carroll said "fuck you" to management, and is parking the ass of his 10 million dollar quarterback.

BR1986FB;1256806 wrote:Why? The OC represents a miniscule sampling of the Browns fanbase why radio (local/national), along with newspapers and various browns websites/message boards give a much larger sample. There are MAYBE 10-15 people on this site who are consistent Browns posters.