BR1986FB;1165502 wrote:There would've been no optimism whatsoever had they stayed the course with McCoy this year. Not saying Weeden is making this team a playoff contender this year but staying with McCoy would've said "we don't give a fuck...we're 'doing our time' and getting the fuck out of here." Making the move shows they at least care and want to win NOW.

lhslep134;1165503 wrote:It's amazing how pre-draft I would have 100% agreed with this and now that we actually have him I feel the need to defend him and respond to you by saying that hey, if he pans out, missing out on him might have been a disaster.

I hate how blindly optimistic I am about Cleveland sports.

like_that;1165508 wrote:Shouldn't make picks based on fan's reactions. Sticking with McCoy would have said "we are not going to reach for a QB."



You can say that about any draft pick. I don't see it panning out. If it does I will gladly eat my crow. If he isn't leading this team to the playoffs next year, I already consider the pick a fail Calling it a disaster if we missed out on him is just laughable.

What would be a disaster is if he is a complete bust and Decastro is a perennial all pro guard.

like_that;1165510 wrote:And then we get this quote:

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @
RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren: they haven't made up their mind to go in another direction at QB by
drafting Weeden; there'll be competition; not handing him job

SMFH

dazedconfused;1165518 wrote:then what the f*ck did we draft him for? don't exactly draft 28 year olds to sit the bench

hoops23;1165520 wrote:There should be a QB competition, even if they never intend to give Colt the starting job. I don't think you want your rookie QB coming into training camp with the feeling that he's already handed the job. Make him work for it and prove his stuff early.

hoops23;1165520 wrote:There should be a QB competition, even if they never intend to give Colt the starting job. I don't think you want your rookie QB coming into training camp with the feeling that he's already handed the job. Make him work for it and prove his stuff early.

BR1986FB;1165511 wrote:Wasn't a reach according to many mocks and what people projected what Cleveland would do.

Jesus Christ would you guys GET OFF Decastro? He was NEVER a target. He was NOT a perceived need by the organization. They needed a RT. Decastro does NOT play RT.

dazedconfused;1165527 wrote:i see your point but i don't want colt to even have a prayer at winning the job because if he does, the whole organization looks like a band of idiots

like_that;1165529 wrote:If he turns out to be a beast and Weeden is a bust no, I will not GET OFF Decastro. Most breakdowns of the draft I read said the Browns could have gotten Weeden with the 2nd pick. Regardless I still think getting him is a reach. He just has a strong arm, and apparently he is "NFL Ready," for what reason, I don't know?? Probably because he is old. Excuse me while I LMAO. It would NOT have been a DISASTER if we missed out on him. What WILL BE a disaster is if we are picking in the top 3 after this season and WE STILL need a QB. Instead of drafting one of the YOUNGER top QB's we will be passing up on them for a chance for our 30 year old QB to develop.

BR1986FB;1165532 wrote:It doesn't matter about Decastro because he was NEVER on their radar. Great for the Steelers that he fell to them but he wasn't a "blip" on the Browns draft board. They wanted T-Rich, Kendall Wright & Weeden.

I don't think it would've been a "disaster" had they not landed Weeden but what WOULD have been a disaster would've been going into 2012 with McCoy as the starter.

like_that;1165531 wrote:Agreed. It's pretty idiotic to say there is a competition, especially since there were rumors about trading McCoy, and after Wallace said he is going to do everything to help Weeden be a great QB lol. You don't waste a 22nd pick on a 29 year old QB for him to sit the bench. Holmgren was being a puss and gave a politically correct answer. He should have taken a page from Shannahan, and just straight up say "yes he is starting, why the fuck do you think we would draft a 29 year old QB?"

like_that;1165533 wrote:Sometimes instead of a reach, you go with BPA, and Decastro was certainly BPA. Thanks for brining up the Steelers, it will be even worse when he is making a once shitty line great, which will probably add a few more years to that scumbag's fucking career behind center.

BR1986FB;1165538 wrote:Again, wasn't a target. Not gonna take a guy you don't covet.

BR1986FB;1165505 wrote:
Daryl Ruiter ‏ @
RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren says he expects Mo Massaquoi to have "a breakout year" we haven't
seen the best from him yet

BR1986FB;1165542 wrote:LOL...already a "bust" without playing a down. Glad you're the GM. :rolleyes:

Commander of Awesome;1165544 wrote:This brought teh lulz. He must think we're fucking idiots.

like_that;1165545 wrote:It's hypothetically speaking br...:rolleyes:

dazedconfused;1165527 wrote:i see your point but i don't want colt to even have a prayer at winning the job because if he does, the whole organization looks like a band of idiots

Footwedge;1165595 wrote:Not really. Maybe McCoy gets a lot better with a prime time running back and an offensive coordinator that can design routes opening up receivers...as bad as they are....something the last guy did not know how to do.

So the Browns drafted Weedon. Now we have 2 potential number one quarterbacks. Couple that with the fact that about 1/3 of q'backs go down to injury at some point, depth can be a huge plus.

dazedconfused;1165754 wrote:you can keep mccoy on the roster if you so choose (personally i don't really think it would be a good environment for him) but weeden HAS to be the starter. no situation where weeden isn't the starter is a good one for the browns