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May 3, 2012 3:41 PM
i didn't know i was talking from a browns stand point. i know joe thomas beat his ass. just in general, hes a thug, karama
May 3, 2012 11:41am
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May 3, 2012 3:47 PM
shook_17;1161185 wrote:i didn't know i was talking from a browns stand point. i know joe thomas beat his ass. just in general, hes a thug, karama
Can't wait till "karama" comes to bite us in the ass, because of your post.
May 3, 2012 11:47am
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May 3, 2012 3:50 PM
lol that shit happens every year reguardless! it sucks. its bound to change?
May 3, 2012 11:50am
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May 3, 2012 3:54 PM
shook_17;1161157 wrote:terrell suggs is out for the year. boom karma is a bitch.
what did he do to invoke the karma gods?
May 3, 2012 11:54am
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May 3, 2012 4:18 PM
dazedconfused;1161193 wrote:what did he do to invoke the karma gods?
Plays for the ravens.
May 3, 2012 12:18pm
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May 3, 2012 4:31 PM
^^ thank you.
May 3, 2012 12:31pm
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May 3, 2012 5:00 PM
Rotinaj;1161219 wrote:Plays for the ravens.
right...how silly of him :rolleyes:
May 3, 2012 1:00pm
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May 3, 2012 5:46 PM
dazedconfused;1161251 wrote:right...how silly of him :rolleyes:
lol cry about it bro.
May 3, 2012 1:46pm
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May 3, 2012 5:49 PM
Karama is a real bitch
May 3, 2012 1:49pm
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May 3, 2012 6:15 PM
Midstate01;1161355 wrote:Karama is a real bitch
You might be right...

May 3, 2012 2:15pm
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May 3, 2012 6:19 PM
Heretic;1161400 wrote:You might be right...

lol reps.
May 3, 2012 2:19pm
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May 3, 2012 6:26 PM
BR1986FB;1160905 wrote:Got my Steve Everitt jersey hanging in the closet. The only other one I might be tempted to get would be Clay Matthews.
How about a #26 Dino Hall? I think I'd go #86 Brennan.
May 3, 2012 2:26pm
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May 3, 2012 8:26 PM
Last Browns jersey I got was a lolCouchFail...

I don't buy jerseys anymore because it's almost pointless. If I did buy a new one, I'd probably get Haden's. Just because 23 is my favorite # and Haden reps the shit out of Cleveland. Even though he was a "terrible" pick and has been a "bust."
May 3, 2012 4:26pm
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May 3, 2012 8:31 PM
hoops23;1161624 wrote:Last Browns jersey I got was a lolCouchFail...

I don't buy jerseys anymore because it's almost pointless. If I did buy a new one, I'd probably get Haden's. Just because 23 is my favorite # and Haden reps the shit out of Cleveland. Even though he was a "terrible" pick and has been a "bust."
I know you are being sarcastic, but I hope he progresses this year....his injuries or whatever it was held him back last year. He was solid, but regressed fo sho
May 3, 2012 4:31pm
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May 3, 2012 9:08 PM
BR1986FB;1160905 wrote:Got my Steve Everitt jersey hanging in the closet. The only other one I might be tempted to get would be Clay Matthews.
Betcha BR has a Webster Slaughter jersey in his closet
May 3, 2012 5:08pm
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May 3, 2012 10:42 PM
I've got a fresh Brady Quinn jersey hanging somewhere.
May 3, 2012 6:42pm
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May 3, 2012 10:49 PM
This jersey talk is fucking boring!!!!
May 3, 2012 6:49pm
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May 3, 2012 11:10 PM
Mr Miyagi;1161650 wrote:Betcha BR has a Webster Slaughter jersey in his closet
Blech! Can't stand him!
May 3, 2012 7:10pm
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May 3, 2012 11:11 PM
Could Browns Follow Bengals
Path?




By [URL="javascript:location.href='http://search.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=4&c=1&search=1&sskey=%22' + author + '%22&sssiteid=149&type=2';"]Fred Greetham[/URL]

OBR Senior Reporter
Posted May
3, 2012



Just last year the Browns were
4-12 and they didn’t seem to have made much progress. So what could the Browns
possibly do to make a dramatic turnaround.

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Comments

What if I said the Browns could turn their fortunes around this
year--dramatically. Before you turn me completely off, hear me out.

Just last year the Browns were 4-12 and they didn’t seem to have made much progress. So what could the Browns possibly do to make a dramatic turnaround.

Copy their rival!

Besides bordering on blasphemy, Browns fans can only look down Interstate-71
and see what the division rival Cincinnati Bengals did a year ago in the draft.
Most experts would say the Browns biggest problem was on offense—an
understatement to say the least—because the Browns scored under 13 points a
game.

The defense kept the Browns competitive for most of the games last year, but
the offense was missing in action. I know the Browns were ranked as a top 10
defense, but statistics are deceptive and the Browns have the foundation for a
good defense. However, I’m not going to label them as an elite defense.

A year ago, the Bengals realized that Carson Palmer was serious about his threat to
retire rather than play again with the Bengals. They used their second-round
draft choice to select Andy Dalton from Texas Christian. Dalton became the
starter from Day One and he went on to lead the Bengals to a dramatic
turnaround.

The Bengals were 4-12 in 2010 as well, and last year improved markedly to 9-7
and made the playoffs as a Wild Card team. Granted, the Bengals had a pretty
good defense, but the offense is what helped them turn their record around.
Dalton completed 58.1 percent of his passes, while throwing for 3,398 yards. He
threw for 20 touchdowns and had 13 interceptions with an 80.4 QB rating.

The running game was similar to the 2009 season with Cedric Benson being the primary ball carrier.
However, the Bengals dropped Chad Ochoconco and drafted A.J. Green with their top draft pick.

Green was truly a difference maker as he caught 65 passes for 1,057 yards and
seven touchdowns.

In the draft, the Browns added three starters to the offense and those three
could improve the offense significantly. Brandon Weeden, presumably will step in immediately
and take over the offense.

Sure, he will have growing pains, but it is very conceivable that he could
play as well as Dalton did as a rookie, or possibly even better.

A big part of Dalton’s success was the emergence of Green. The Browns first
pick, Trent Richardson could easily make as big, if not
bigger impact on the Browns offense as to what Green did. If Las Vegas were to
put odds on Richardson’s numbers, I would take the over that he would account
for more than 1,057 yards and seven touchdowns in the Browns offense this year.
Primarily, because he’s a double threat, rushing and catching passes out of the
backfield.

The biggest negative to date is the Browns have added only a fourth-round
draft choice in Travis Benjamin at the wide receiver position. They
have not added any veterans through free agency, nor draft a receiver with one
of their top picks. It will be very interesting to see if Weeden makes the
existing receiving corps better like Pat Shurmur and Tom Heckert intimated.

The Browns opted to add Mitchell Schwartz to play right tackle with the
37th pick, rather than select a receiver. I would’ve preferred they would’ve
signed an unrestricted free agent like Eric Winston to play tackle and then they could’ve
gone after a receiver.

However, Schwartz should provide instant improvement over the hobbled Tony Pashos from a year ago. We’ll see if adding
the running back or the wide receiver was the more important way to go—or if
really the quarterback was the real key.

So, if Dalton and Green can play a big part in turning the Bengals around,
there is optimism that it could happen with the Browns.


Random Thoughts on Backup QB: I got a kick out of hearing QB Seneca Wallace on a local radio station this week
talking about his role in mentoring rookie QB Brandon Weeden in the West Coast
offense. Ironically, last year, he said it wasn’t his responsibility to mentor
Colt McCoy and lobbied to the media about being the
starter. Now, Wallace realizes that he’s not going to start since the Browns
drafted Weeden to start and he’s lobbying to stay as the backup for the Browns.
It’s funny what $2.5 million will make you say.

I am in the minority, but I believe that McCoy would be the better option as
the backup. He has the personality to handle being the backup and he knows he
will get another chance, either by injury or with another team. If McCoy is
better than Wallace, he should be the backup. I don’t buy the line about the
divided locker room. The players know what a No. 1 draft choice means and they
will follow Weeden, especially as McCoy will not cause strife in the locker
room. We all know the recent history of quarterbacks in Cleveland and virtually
every year the starter goes down with an injury, thus McCoy would be a better
option than Wallace, if that happens.

In addition, McCoy makes around $500,000 this year and is much younger than
Wallace. However, Wallace has a longer history with Mike Holmgren than McCoy does. It
will be interesting how this plays out.

http://cle.scout.com/2/1183542.html
May 3, 2012 7:11pm
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May 4, 2012 2:46 AM
I still have an Eric Metcalf jersey!!
May 3, 2012 10:46pm
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May 4, 2012 2:48 AM
DeyDurkie5;1161707 wrote:This jersey talk is fucking boring!!!!
you are boring.

boom.roasted.
May 3, 2012 10:48pm
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May 4, 2012 9:09 AM
DeyDurkie5;1161707 wrote:This jersey talk is fucking boring!!!!
Not really much going on. Browns aren't active in free agency so there's not much to talk about. The rookies should be coming in for their minicamp.

I'm sure this has been mentioned but one of the things I'll be excited to see about Richardson is that there will be no need to remove him for a third down back. He is a very physical blocker which the Browns haven't had at RB in a LONG time.
May 4, 2012 5:09am
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May 4, 2012 11:48 AM
I'll throw out a few questions, just to get some talk going:

1-throw out your favorite draft pick, both short and long term players

2-who will be the best 2 WRs on this team by year's end?

3-give me your final AFC North standings this year

4-game you're most excited for this season (Browns vs ???)
May 4, 2012 7:48am
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May 4, 2012 11:55 AM
SportsAndLady;1162087 wrote:I'll throw out a few questions, just to get some talk going:

1-throw out your favorite draft pick, both short and long term players

2-who will be the best 2 WRs on this team by year's end?

3-give me your final AFC North standings this year

4-game you're most excited for this season (Browns vs ???)
1- I'll go with the not so obvious and say Mitchell Schwartz

2- Little and the Cooper kid who was signed undrafted from Oklahoma State

3- Cincinnati
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
Browns

4- Pittsburgh game because I think the Browns will win one
May 4, 2012 7:55am
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May 4, 2012 11:56 AM
SportsAndLady;1162087 wrote:I'll throw out a few questions, just to get some talk going:

1-throw out your favorite draft pick, both short and long term players

2-who will be the best 2 WRs on this team by year's end?

3-give me your final AFC North standings this year

4-game you're most excited for this season (Browns vs ???)
1-Trent Richardson. (There is no other choice) Second would be Winn from BSU, only a favorite because of where they got him.
2-Greg Little and Greg Little's Drops
3. Browns - Bungholes -Steelers - Ravens. lol
4. Any game the browns win and/or look like a real offense.
May 4, 2012 7:56am