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2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Mar 31, 2012 9:54 PM
DeyDurkie5;1132960 wrote:NO reason to burn a pick within the top 4 rounds on a QB. Just absolutely no reason.
Agreed... BLOW FOR BARKLEY!!!!!!
Mar 31, 2012 9:54pm
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Mar 31, 2012 9:55 PM
shook_17;1132909 wrote:weeden is growing on me. either 22 or 37. preferably 37, if we can get 7 years out of him thats the most out of a qb since our return. if he was 22 23 he would be a top ten pick. dude can straight game.
Agree on Weeden. He's probably the only one I'd look at this point. Don't see what people see in Cousins. I don't see much more arm strength than McCoy.
Mar 31, 2012 9:55pm
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Mar 31, 2012 9:59 PM
BR1986FB;1133012 wrote:Agree on Weeden. He's probably the only one I'd look at this point. Don't see what people see in Cousins. I don't see much more arm strength than McCoy.
How counterproductive can you be with weeden at that spot? There is NO gain with taking him within the first 3 rounds. Absolutely none.
Mar 31, 2012 9:59pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:05 PM
bases_loaded;1132493 wrote:What kind of picks do the Cowboys have for us?
By the draft chart, for the Browns to trade #4 to the Cowboys, the Browns should get #14 (1st rounder), #45 (2nd rounder), #81 (3rd rounder) and a 2013 1st rounder. Let's say they leave the 3rd rounder out of it...how bout Miles Austin to replace that pick? Anybody want to trade down?

EDIT: Apparently the Boys' are balking as the Browns have asked for Demarco Murray in the deal.
Mar 31, 2012 10:05pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:06 PM
DeyDurkie5;1133022 wrote:How counterproductive can you be with weeden at that spot? There is NO gain with taking him within the first 3 rounds. Absolutely none.
He'd likely be the starter by late in the year.
Mar 31, 2012 10:06pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:16 PM
DeyDurkie5;1132960 wrote:NO reason to burn a pick within the top 4 rounds on a QB. Just absolutely no reason.
yes there is, this team doesn't have a legit qb. colt mccoy is 0-10 vs the AFC north.
Mar 31, 2012 10:16pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:18 PM
BR1986FB;1133041 wrote:He'd likely be the starter by late in the year.

LOL yeah, a rookie coming in from the weakest pass defense in the "top" leagues is goin to start. Get out of here. use that pick on a starter for either the offense or defense.
Mar 31, 2012 10:18pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:19 PM
shook_17;1133062 wrote:yes there is, this team doesn't have a legit qb. colt mccoy is 0-10 vs the AFC north.
BOO HOO. McCoy is one year under hte league, in a time with no offseason. Bringing in a rookie to "start" is just retarded and counter productive
Mar 31, 2012 10:19pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:19 PM
DeyDurkie5;1133067 wrote:LOL yeah, a rookie coming in from the weakest pass defense in the "top" leagues is goin to start. Get out of here. use that pick on a starter for either the offense or defense.
He's a better QB than McCoy.
Mar 31, 2012 10:19pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:21 PM
andy dalton proved the doubters wrong last year. he played in the WAC, now that shit is weak. and he was decent last year.
Mar 31, 2012 10:21pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:21 PM
DeyDurkie5;1133069 wrote:BOO HOO. McCoy is one year under hte league, in a time with no offseason. Bringing in a rookie to "start" is just retarded and counter productive
McCoy is going into his THIRD year. Should've cut bait with him already but he's like that booger that the little kid can't get off his finger...an albatross that H&H can't seem to get rid of.
Mar 31, 2012 10:21pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:21 PM
DeyDurkie5;1133069 wrote:BOO HOO. McCoy is one year under hte league, in a time with no offseason. Bringing in a rookie to "start" is just retarded and counter productive
this will be mccoys third year in the league.

EDIT: BR beat me to it. in two years mccoy has 20 tds and 20 ints. he is def putting fear in opposing defenses with that cannon and tourching of defenses he has done. he has what, 1 300 yard game in two years? and i think that was against tenessee and he had 50 completetions?
Mar 31, 2012 10:21pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:21 PM
BR1986FB;1133070 wrote:He's a better QB than McCoy.
You know nothing about football if you think that.
Mar 31, 2012 10:21pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:22 PM
BR1986FB;1133075 wrote:McCoy is going into his THIRD year. Should've cut bait with him already but he's like that booger that the little kid can't get off his finger...an albatross that H&H can't seem to get rid of.
His first year was like 4 games? His second year he didn't have an offseason. This is his legit 2nd year to judge him on.
Mar 31, 2012 10:22pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:24 PM
DeyDurkie5;1133069 wrote:BOO HOO. McCoy is one year under hte league, in a time with no offseason. Bringing in a rookie to "start" is just retarded and counter productive
wasn't cam newton apart of the lock out too last year? he had a great year in a new offense and "no offseason"
Mar 31, 2012 10:24pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:25 PM
DeyDurkie5;1133077 wrote:You know nothing about football if you think that.
If Weeden isn't 28 years old he's a top 10 pick in this draft. Where was McCoy drafted? Oh yeah, 3rd round and that was ONLY after Holmgren stopped his freefall. Otherwise, he's probably taken in the 4th or 5th.
Mar 31, 2012 10:25pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:26 PM
shook_17;1133088 wrote:wasn't cam newton apart of the lock out too last year? he had a great year in a new offense and "no offseason"
did cam newton have a legit number 1 reciever, 2 capable running backs, and a legit offenseive coordinator? LOL yeah he did, stop posting.
Mar 31, 2012 10:26pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:27 PM
BR1986FB;1133094 wrote:If Weeden isn't 28 years old he's a top 10 pick in this draft. Where was McCoy drafted? Oh yeah, 3rd round and that was ONLY after Holmgren stopped his freefall. Otherwise, he's probably taken in the 4th or 5th.
We can get a STARTER with those first 3 pcks. Why on earth would we waste it on a qb that has no NFL experience? It doesn't make sense unless you are an impatient browns fan like yourself.
Mar 31, 2012 10:27pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:28 PM
oh the legit offense coordinator that cleveland ran out of here because he wasn't good enough. i forgot. steve smith was coming off of a shitty year and people were calling him washed up. the QB is suppose to make your playmakers better newton does it, mccoy doesnt. end of story.
Mar 31, 2012 10:28pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:29 PM
DeyDurkie5;1133102 wrote:We can get a STARTER with those first 3 pcks. Why on earth would we waste it on a qb that has no NFL experience? It doesn't make sense unless you are an impatient browns fan like yourself.
do you not want a franchise qb? or can we get that next year when we have another shitty year with mccoy?

EDIT: i think weeden has more upside than mccoy. weeden could be franchise material for 7 8 years.
Mar 31, 2012 10:29pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:29 PM
DeyDurkie5;1133080 wrote:His first year was like 4 games? His second year he didn't have an offseason. This is his legit 2nd year to judge him on.
He's played enough for them to "judge" him and they did when they tried to move up for the #2 pick and then the #1.

He's NOT their solution and they know it. They are STUCK with him this year hence all of the "niceties" with the "Colt is our guy" crap that they are spewing. Not exactly gonna say "McCoy sucks but we're stuck with him this year and are hoping for the best."
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Mar 31, 2012 10:30 PM
shook_17;1133111 wrote:do you not want a franchise qb? or can we get that next year when we have another shitty year with mccoy?
Durk thinks McCoy is a legit franchise QB that's going to lead the Browns to the playoffs THIS year. :D
Mar 31, 2012 10:30pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:31 PM
lol...can we get past the McCoy stuff? Everyone knows everyones position on the matter.
Mar 31, 2012 10:31pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:33 PM
shook_17;1133109 wrote:oh the legit offense coordinator that cleveland ran out of here because he wasn't good enough. i forgot. steve smith was coming off of a shitty year and people were calling him washed up. the QB is suppose to make your playmakers better newton does it, mccoy doesnt. end of story.
LOL what? You and BR were saying that mccoy was a great qb after his first year. Don't give me that shit.
shook_17;1133111 wrote:do you not want a franchise qb? or can we get that next year when we have another shitty year with mccoy?

EDIT: i think weeden has more upside than mccoy. weeden could be franchise material for 7 8 years.
I want other peices filled with those first 3 picks, not a "unproven" QB.
BR1986FB;1133113 wrote:He's played enough for them to "judge" him and they did when they tried to move up for the #2 pick and then the #1.

He's NOT their solution and they know it. They are STUCK with him this year hence all of the "niceties" with the "Colt is our guy" crap that they are spewing. Not exactly gonna say "McCoy sucks but we're stuck with him this year and are hoping for the best."
you hate mccoy, ti's been proven. Obviosuly your opinion is biased.
BR1986FB;1133121 wrote:Durk thinks McCoy is a legit franchise QB that's going to lead the Browns to the playoffs THIS year. :D
If you put peices and weapons around him, he will succeed
Mar 31, 2012 10:33pm
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Mar 31, 2012 10:35 PM
BR1986FB;1133121 wrote:Durk thinks McCoy is a legit franchise QB that's going to lead the Browns to the playoffs THIS year. :D
I want what he is smoking. Durk we are meeting up this year in the muni lot.
Mar 31, 2012 10:35pm