Wooball;1121876 wrote:Any chance we could see the Browns move down twice in the first round? First move from 4 to 6 in a trade with the Rams, then from 6 to 8 in a trade with the Dolphins for the Fins to select Tannehill?

Commander of Awesome;1121875 wrote:Anytime you draft a FB in the 4th its a reach IMO. He actually played in 14 games, which is more than I thought he played in. I will say for all the talk about a WC FB, the guy had 5 catches on the season. I would rather had kept Vickers.

OneBuckeye;1121883 wrote:Vickers had 4 catches last year and a high of 13 in 2007. Somehow the Texan's rushing game blew up in 2011. Hmmmm.

BR1986FB;1121891 wrote:I believe James Casey was the Texans starting FB. There's a reason Vickers was expendable and currently with the Cowboys. Vickers wasn't the reason for the Texans RB's blowing up.

OneBuckeye;1121894 wrote:Ah didn't know that. Thanks. It said he played in 14 games so I assumed he was the starter.

shook_17;1121911 wrote:heres food for thought, it might help our trade down situation. i seen an article on via twitter from pro football talk that the vikings hint they prefer claiborne over kalil. it could lead to a trade down if kalil falls to four?

BR1986FB;1121913 wrote:Tannehill will be the pick at 4...

like_that;1121924 wrote:I doubt that. Who is going to pick them at 4? I sure don't see us wasting a top 4 pick on him, since he is most likely to drop big time.

IggyPride00;1121928 wrote:Rizzo is about to start hyperventilating because he was just talking about how angry he is as a Browns fan that heading into year 3 of the Holmgren regime we are looking at a QB competition between a 10 year NFL career backup and a 3rd round pick that hasn't made it through the year because of injury his first 2 years.

BR1986FB;1121932 wrote:He should mate with Chuck Booms...

IggyPride00;1121935 wrote:I forget who the guy is, but the Sunday afternoon host on 92.3 hung up on Booms (who called in) because Booms was accusing the guy of carrying the water for and apologizing for the regime. It was pretty funny, but the message I get is that people are getting fed up with the tone deafness of this regime, and that if you want to baby them with kid gloves you had better be ready to explain yourself because patience is running out.

IggyPride00;1121928 wrote:Rizzo is about to start hyperventilating because he was just talking about how angry he is as a Browns fan that heading into year 3 of the Holmgren regime we are looking at a QB competition between a 10 year NFL career backup and a 3rd round pick that hasn't made it through the year because of injury his first 2 years.

On a Mike Holmgren led team that is what our QB situation is, it is shocking and pathetic when you look at it from the outside looking in (taking off my Browns fan hat).

Mr Miyagi;1121960 wrote:Talked with Sam Rutigliano for about an hour on Sunday, he seemed frustrated (dismayed) with the whole regime / ownership/ west coast offense needs tweaked updated etc...PM me if you want to know more specifics

Mr Miyagi;1121960 wrote:Talked with Sam Rutigliano for about an hour on Sunday, he seemed frustrated (dismayed) with the whole regime / ownership/ west coast offense needs tweaked updated etc...PM me if you want to know more specifics

BR1986FB;1122037 wrote:http://networkedblogs.com/vnYVy

IggyPride00;1122048 wrote:Holmgren also could start using alot more "we" when referring to Browns fans instead of "they". Remember last year when he made the comment about "making them feel good about their football team." He has this image of being totally detached from what is going on, and doing radio shows in Seattle instead of Cleveland just doesn't help that.