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2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Mar 9, 2012 11:12 AM
I hope other teams are as gullable as some posters and the Cleveland media
Mar 9, 2012 11:12am
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Mar 9, 2012 11:28 AM
bases_loaded;1109920 wrote:I hope other teams are as gullable as some posters and the Cleveland media
Exxxxxxxxxactly.

I can't believe how in depth some Cleveland people are taking every word spoken by H&H right now..lol
Mar 9, 2012 11:28am
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Mar 9, 2012 11:33 AM
Tom Heckert;1109729 wrote:"who cares, I might not be around in 6 years"
I wonder if he referring to getting fired for screwing it up or having a heart attack. Either way no big deal to me that he said it.
Mar 9, 2012 11:33am
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Mar 9, 2012 11:47 AM
BR1986FB;1109759 wrote: and choose to play the "slow and steady wins the race we will ONLY build through the draft", we're doomed. That's another 3-5 years before the team will be able to compete if they don't inject ANY key free agents.
agreed....also , in 5 years we could be losing Taylor, Rubin Haden etc....will not be able/afford to keep them all....we have to actually attract some interest in free agents by at least being interested.....I keep getting the feeling that 1. Free agents don't want to come to Cleveland and 2. the front office attitude of "thats fine we don't need them"

On another note, I am watching the NFL Network and they had some mocks up (though free agency hasnt started yet so a lot of things can change) One guy had the Browns trading up for RG3 the other 2 said no way....Washington is willing to do whatever....Lombardi then said " I am not saying that the Browns are going to pick Tannehill at 4 but I am saying that they find Tannehill more appealing than RG3.....also said that if the Browns really want Griffin they should aggressively talk with the Rams RIGHT now while other teams are concentrating on Manning....give them a take it now offer.......now before I get all these " Lombardi is a hack, " comments....I am just putting it out there what was said, not that I agree with the guy, but if what he is saying is true I would be upset to find that H&H find Tannehill appealing
Mar 9, 2012 11:47am
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Mar 9, 2012 12:17 PM
Mr Miyagi;1109966 wrote:agreed....also , in 5 years we could be losing Taylor, Rubin Haden etc....will not be able/afford to keep them all....we have to actually attract some interest in free agents by at least being interested.....I keep getting the feeling that 1. Free agents don't want to come to Cleveland and 2. the front office attitude of "thats fine we don't need them"

On another note, I am watching the NFL Network and they had some mocks up (though free agency hasnt started yet so a lot of things can change) One guy had the Browns trading up for RG3 the other 2 said no way....Washington is willing to do whatever....Lombardi then said " I am not saying that the Browns are going to pick Tannehill at 4 but I am saying that they find Tannehill more appealing than RG3.....also said that if the Browns really want Griffin they should aggressively talk with the Rams RIGHT now while other teams are concentrating on Manning....give them a take it now offer.......now before I get all these " Lombardi is a hack, " comments....I am just putting it out there what was said, not that I agree with the guy, but if what he is saying is true I would be upset to find that H&H find Tannehill appealing
I'm ALL for building through the draft but come fucking on...if they grab a young, affordable OLB (Woodyard-Broncos or Hawthorne, who I mentioned from the Seahawks), a corner (Richard Marshall-Cards or splurge on a Finnegan-Titans) along with a young/vet WR (Garcon) all they need is a RDE (via the draft) and the defense is MORE than legit and YOUNG. Then you work on the offense with draft picks...it's not THAT difficult but I get the feeling he's going to plod along and let this "window" close.

As far as your second comment about Tannehill? Wouldn't surprise me. Instead of biting the bullet and getting the QB, they want to show you how "smart" they are by shining the proverbial "turd." Taking a project like a Tannehill and molding/grooming him into what they want makes them look like "geniuses" IF it pans out. Sometimes these (not only Cleveland's) regimes think too much for their own good.

Keep in mind that Lombardi has seemed to hold a grudge against the Browns ever since they fired him.
Mar 9, 2012 12:17pm
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Mar 9, 2012 12:37 PM
I read yesterday that while everyone is working on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes, the Browns seem to be the frontrunner for Flynn. Personally, I don't know if Flynn is much of an upgrade over McCoy because he can't throw the ball downfield. That's been his biggest downfall in his limited opportunity. Anyways, I would at least be okay with signing him and then drafting some skilled players in the draft. Trent Richardson at 4 and then WR at 22 wouldn't be a bad place to start, or Blackmon at 4 and RB at 22.
Mar 9, 2012 12:37pm
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Mar 9, 2012 12:40 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1110011 wrote:I read yesterday that while everyone is working on the Peyton Manning sweepstakes, the Browns seem to be the frontrunner for Flynn. Personally, I don't know if Flynn is much of an upgrade over McCoy because he can't throw the ball downfield. That's been his biggest downfall in his limited opportunity. Anyways, I would at least be okay with signing him and then drafting some skilled players in the draft. Trent Richardson at 4 and then WR at 22 wouldn't be a bad place to start, or Blackmon at 4 and RB at 22.
Well, apparently Aaron Rodgers should be Flynn's agent as he's already claimed that he's a "top 15 QB" per Peter King's Twitter.

The issue with Flynn throwing the ball down the field may be why Washington passes on him in free agency with the way their offense is set up.
Mar 9, 2012 12:40pm
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Mar 9, 2012 12:43 PM
Just seen on twitter blackmon ran in the 4.4s at his pro day!
Mar 9, 2012 12:43pm
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Mar 9, 2012 12:45 PM
shook_17;1110022 wrote:Just seen on twitter blackmon ran in the 4.4s at his pro day!
4.41-4.46...still do NOT want. Hopefully the Rams do though and don't want to trade lower than #4. :D
Mar 9, 2012 12:45pm
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Mar 9, 2012 12:48 PM
Haha. For sure. They want claiborne or blackmon any lower than 4 thry are fucked.
Mar 9, 2012 12:48pm
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Mar 9, 2012 12:53 PM
Blackmon will be a beast....plain and simple
Mar 9, 2012 12:53pm
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Mar 9, 2012 1:01 PM
Way off subject, but what were the rumors behind kokinis' firing? This is a work discussion.
Mar 9, 2012 1:01pm
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Mar 9, 2012 1:01 PM
wes_mantooth;1110035 wrote:Blackmon will be a beast....plain and simple
+1
Mar 9, 2012 1:01pm
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Mar 9, 2012 1:08 PM
wes_mantooth;1110042 wrote:Way off subject, but what were the rumors behind kokinis' firing? This is a work discussion.
Banging one of the office personnel. Mangini was jealous that "Koko" wouldn't give him a whirl...
Mar 9, 2012 1:08pm
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Mar 9, 2012 1:39 PM
BR1986FB;1110051 wrote:Banging one of the office personnel. Mangini was jealous that "Koko" wouldn't give him a whirl...
Any more insight than that? Rizzo always builds it up (maybe it was his actual firing) as a story for the ages but will never share it on the air.
Mar 9, 2012 1:39pm
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Mar 9, 2012 1:41 PM
I know Kolkinis would sleep in his office, come to the office late, etc... I remember there being something about him having panic attacks and unable to make decisions as well.
Mar 9, 2012 1:41pm
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Mar 9, 2012 1:49 PM
OneBuckeye;1110105 wrote:Any more insight than that? Rizzo always builds it up (maybe it was his actual firing) as a story for the ages but will never share it on the air.
That's because Riz was the "third party' giving reacharound's.
Mar 9, 2012 1:49pm
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Mar 9, 2012 2:10 PM
wes_mantooth;1110035 wrote:Blackmon will be a beast....plain and simple


+2
Mar 9, 2012 2:10pm
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Mar 9, 2012 7:12 PM
So let's just say they do sign Flynn. Do they trade back a few spots and take T-Rich, Blackmon, or what?
Mar 9, 2012 7:12pm
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Mar 9, 2012 7:13 PM
I will be pissed if they go with trent richardson with 4th pick. If they go with flynn I want blackmon at 4 or claiborne.
Mar 9, 2012 7:13pm
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Mar 9, 2012 7:15 PM
If they take Richardson at 4. Fuck the browns. Dudes gonna be a huge bust. And you don't take a rb that high.

Fuck that whole article!
Mar 9, 2012 7:15pm
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Mar 9, 2012 7:16 PM
Since the new uniforms from Nike are coming out April 3, I decided to add some controversy by adding some new Browns uniforms from Nike


Mar 9, 2012 7:16pm
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Mar 9, 2012 7:21 PM
I like the all white unis, the one on the far left, and maybe the all brown...I like the orange jersey but dont think it looks right with the brown pants.
Mar 9, 2012 7:21pm
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Mar 9, 2012 7:22 PM
I think it would look sick if go with a brown helmet, gray facemask, and their dawg logo on each side with the unis.
Mar 9, 2012 7:22pm