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Preacher
Posts: 218
Dec 12, 2009 9:31pm
That is because most in those regions have not gotten the chance to see Suh play like the others. Gerhart gets hyped every week on game day. Never really heard much about Suh until he put on that show in Dallas.lolthe_system wrote: Congrats to Ingram. I can't argue that pick.
How McCoy ended up in 3rd over Suh is beyond me. The midwest, northeast, and east all had Ingram, Gerhart, McCoy. I'd like to know the percentage of voters from those regions that turned in their votes early, because they couldn't have seen Suh single handedly beat the heisman trophy right out of McCoy's hands.
He may be the number on pick in the draft next spring.
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eski1
Posts: 18
Dec 12, 2009 9:36pm
Suh is what the Heisman is supposed to be about. I like Ingram, and his numbers were fantastic, but you have to think the fact that Bama hasn't had a Heisman winner played into the voting a little bit. The numbers Suh put up are absolutely unheard of for a D Linemen, and he was doubled most of the season. He dominated, period. Congrats to Ingram, but I feel like Suh got slighted.
krambman
Posts: 3,606
Dec 12, 2009 9:50pm
It's kind of amazing that for the first 72 years of this award no sophomore had won. Now we've had three sophomores in a row win it.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Dec 12, 2009 9:51pm
He was a beast more than one game. Just because no one was watching doesn't mean it didn't happen.ccrunner609 wrote: He got all that heisman hype and votes on one game. The one game that everyone saw.
I can think of at least one other on ESPN alone where I watched him dominate (Mizzou).
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 12, 2009 9:55pm
True, and Gameday ran a feature segment on him about halfway through the season. Nebraska probably should have "campaigned" for the heisman a little more.ts1227 wrote:He was a beast more than one game. Just because no one was watching doesn't mean it didn't happen.ccrunner609 wrote: He got all that heisman hype and votes on one game. The one game that everyone saw.
I can think of at least one other on ESPN alone where I watched him dominate (Mizzou).
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 12, 2009 9:57pm
Suh should've gotten it, but can't argue w/ Ingram.
d.woods50fan.
Posts: 451
Dec 12, 2009 9:59pm
The award is a joke, SUH was best player .... so Change name of award to "best player on best undefeated team"
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Dec 12, 2009 11:04pm
Don't mind the pick, he's really earned it this year, but I think Gerheart suffered from nobody in those 3 regions they wre talking about seeing Stanford play all year.... if they'd have been on East Coast tv more than 3 times people would have seen more of what he could do.
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k_boogy
Posts: 91
Dec 12, 2009 11:12pm
Im not sure what Im supposed to wonder?? Previous 2 sophs that won it put up insane numbers and definitely deserved to win it. This year Ingram deserved it just as much as the others imo. Some say that voters might of turned in their ballot before the conference championships, Im not buying that so much when their last thought of Ingram would be him getting hurt and not playing well. Conf championship he had a great game that I think sealed the heismen up for him.ccrunner609 wrote: 3 soph's in a row.......makes you kinda wonder.
Was Suh the best player in college football? Ya he is. But with only one player from the defensive side of the ball ever winning it (Woodson did play some offense and returned kicks which helped him in being a game changer) I dont think anyone really expected Suh to actually win it. Should be a great honor just to be invited to the show as a defensive player.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Dec 13, 2009 12:48am
I thought Suh should've won but Ingram is a class act.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 13, 2009 4:23am
Congrats to Ingram. I'm watching the replay of the ceremony right now. Loved his speech.....mad props!
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Cmhs74
Posts: 174
Dec 13, 2009 7:06am
Can't argue with the Ingram after the game he had against Florida. I guess I was leaning toward Gerhart and like it was said earlier only a 28 point difference. Congratulations to all the finalists on great careers.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 13, 2009 8:08am
congrat's to Ingram,and what a humble and heartfelt speech to top it off--classy kid...but based on recent history,Alabama's odds of winning the NC have been diminished,but who knows--maybe they can reverse the trend
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Dec 13, 2009 10:57am
Robert Smith almost had a meltdown after it was given out.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 13, 2009 12:16pm
I wish Tebow had cried. Now I gotta hate on Ingram next year so he doesn't win it twice. When will they get back to giving this damn trophy to Seniors!!!
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Dec 13, 2009 12:20pm
Congrats to Ingram. I still pulled for Toby.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 13, 2009 12:40pm
There were at least 3 times you could have seen Suh play this season. One being a rainy Thursday night game where he absolutely dominated just like he did against Texas. Hell, that's the game they take the video of him making a giant one armed tackle in his highlight reel.ccrunner609 wrote: like I said earlier, Suh was on a team that wasnt great like the undefeated Longhorns. If Nebraska wouldnt of played Texas last week, Suh wouldnt of even been in NY.
He got all that heisman hype and votes on one game. The one game that everyone saw.
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King Curtis
Posts: 391
Dec 13, 2009 12:48pm
Ingram has to be the automatic front runner heading into next season.
This could be the most serious threat to Archie's 2 time company we have seen for a very long time.
This could be the most serious threat to Archie's 2 time company we have seen for a very long time.
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Dec 13, 2009 7:44pm
It can really be argued either way.wes_mantooth wrote: I don't think the best player won....I think Suh is the best in the nation. But congrats to him anyhow.
Side note.....this is the least hype I can ever remember for the heisman trophy.
I look at it as the best player to help his team out the most, and without Mark Ingram, Bama doesn't go undefeated. Yes, I love Trent Richardson, and he's great, but Ingram carried that offense on his back, and took A LOT of pressure off of McElroy. I mean, the kid had over 1000 yards rushing after contact, which was majority of his overall yardage.
If Nebraska doesn't have Suh, they probably lose another game or two, and definitely don't have a chance to beat Nebraska.
That being said, I agree that Suh is the best player in the nation, overall, followed by Eric Berry, but Ingram's victory was quite warranted.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Dec 14, 2009 9:42am
I don't see Ingram as a threat to Archie quite yet, if I remember right Bama will be young up front next year, could take a while to get him going
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0311sdp
Posts: 580
Dec 14, 2009 10:08am
I thought Ingram should have finished fifth of the five that went to New York, the voters have a short memory (Auburn game). If you were voting for the best player (what itis supposed to be) then Suh would have won. My preference was Colt McCoy because he got screwed out of the win last year.
1. Colt McCoy
2. SUH
3. Gerhart
4. Tebow
5. Ingram
1. Colt McCoy
2. SUH
3. Gerhart
4. Tebow
5. Ingram
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 14, 2009 11:04am
McCoy was not worthy, and Tebow certainly wasn't more worthy than Ingram.
I really wanted Suh or Gerhart, and after they announced Ingram I was a little upset. But after his speech, I became a big fan of his. Very humble and a classy kid. And it wasn't fake.
I really wanted Suh or Gerhart, and after they announced Ingram I was a little upset. But after his speech, I became a big fan of his. Very humble and a classy kid. And it wasn't fake.
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0311sdp
Posts: 580
Dec 14, 2009 12:10pm
Agreed great kid, but probably not the best football player in America. But no use whining it's a done deal now, so congrats to Mark Ingram.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 14, 2009 1:06pm
first of all,to say that any one of these candidates isn't worthy is ludicrous...one may be more deserving than the other,but it's all relative to who's doing the voting. IMO,they got it right,even though the person I was pulling for didn't get it--congrats again to Mark Ingram and 'Bama Nation!!!
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Dec 14, 2009 1:47pm
I didn't want him to win, but after watching his acceptance speach I'm glad he did. seems like a great kid with a big heart.