ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 17, 2011 4:23pm
The only question is if Thomas can produce at the level he is now with Sully on the floor, he has been lights out and looking to get assists at a really good clip. His game has improved so much from last year.chicago510;1018289 wrote:Thomas is playing at an elite level right now. He might be playing some of the best ball of anyone in the country right now since Sully got hurt.
If (And big if) Sully can get healthy, the 1-2-3 punch of Sully-WillB-Thomas is almost unfair. Nobody in the big 10 will be able to defend that
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Dec 17, 2011 4:30pm
I think the biggest difference is his efficiency. If you told me last year he could score 30 on about 15 shots, I would tell you to GTFO.ytownfootball;1018296 wrote:The only question is if Thomas can produce at the level he is now with Sully on the floor, he has been lights out and looking to get assists at a really good clip. His game has improved so much from last year.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Dec 17, 2011 4:33pm
Yep his decision making has led to that efficient produciton.chicago510;1018305 wrote:I think the biggest difference is his efficiency. If you told me last year he could score 30 on about 15 shots, I would tell you to GTFO.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 17, 2011 4:34pm
Can't argue, he seems to not be pressuring as much trying to earn playing time by chucking it up from all corners of the arena. Still, when he catches the hot hand he's a bitch.chicago510;1018305 wrote:I think the biggest difference is his efficiency. If you told me last year he could score 30 on about 15 shots, I would tell you to GTFO.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 17, 2011 4:55pm
He was able to do it against Duke, should be even easier with Sully. Thomas at high post with Sully down low should be a deadly combo.ytownfootball;1018296 wrote:The only question is if Thomas can produce at the level he is now with Sully on the floor, he has been lights out and looking to get assists at a really good clip. His game has improved so much from last year.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 17, 2011 6:05pm
Despite what Sullinger and Matta are saying, I'm going to guess it will be Northwestern before we see Sullinger again...and maybe then for just part of the game. They'll need him healthy when they go to IU.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Dec 17, 2011 7:42pm
They play Lamar and Miami Oh I hope he sits and heals til the 28th.Writerbuckeye;1018368 wrote:Despite what Sullinger and Matta are saying, I'm going to guess it will be Northwestern before we see Sullinger again...and maybe then for just part of the game. They'll need him healthy when they go to IU.
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holdingout
Posts: 585
Dec 18, 2011 10:31am
This...gerb131;1018402 wrote:They play Lamar and Miami Oh I hope he sits and heals til the 28th.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 18, 2011 5:15pm
I disagree. If he can go, and there is no risk to the foot, he will be back vs Miami. He needs to be in game shape come NW/IU. IMO, he isn't a guy who can sit out as long as he has, and just be able to step in and not miss a beat. If it was just a contusion, as reported, that really is not a big deal.Writerbuckeye;1018368 wrote:Despite what Sullinger and Matta are saying, I'm going to guess it will be Northwestern before we see Sullinger again...and maybe then for just part of the game. They'll need him healthy when they go to IU.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 18, 2011 9:33pm
He'll play against Miami on Thursday, and in the immortal words of sleeper....book it
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rightfield
Posts: 164
Dec 18, 2011 11:12pm
Didn't get a good review of Buckeye recruit T. Parker this weekend. Did he get over matched or was it just one bad game? Thoughts from anyone following him?
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 19, 2011 1:33am
Huh?rightfield;1019636 wrote:Didn't get a good review of Buckeye recruit T. Parker this weekend. Did he get over matched or was it just one bad game? Thoughts from anyone following him?
He had 29/10 in the game.
bababooey
Posts: 178
Dec 19, 2011 12:11pm
He's talking about this game from saturday when he went against Ricardo Gathershoops23;1019710 wrote:Huh?
He had 29/10 in the game.
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/X8levykxEeG-rAAmVebEWg/city-of-palms-day-2--riverside-stuns-miller-grove.htm
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 19, 2011 12:43pm
Ah, thank you.bababooey;1020021 wrote:He's talking about this game from saturday when he went against Ricardo Gathers
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/X8levykxEeG-rAAmVebEWg/city-of-palms-day-2--riverside-stuns-miller-grove.htm
My bad.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 19, 2011 8:17pm
Matta expecting Sullinger to play vs Lamar. Of course, he said he was doubtful against UpStateSC last week too. So who knows. But sounds that he would definately be ready for Miami Thursday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXec7yssqUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXec7yssqUo
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 19, 2011 8:58pm
vball10set;1019495 wrote:He'll play against Miami on Thursday, and in the immortal words of sleeper....book it
:thumbup:centralbucksfan;1020511 wrote:Matta expecting Sullinger to play vs Lamar. Of course, he said he was doubtful against UpStateSC last week too. So who knows. But sounds that he would definitely be ready for Miami Thursday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXec7yssqUo
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Dec 20, 2011 1:07am
On Matta's call in radio show this evening.
Matta said when Sully asked to come out of the game he asked him what's the matter? Sully said, "Someone stepped on my foot." Matta said he thought to himself something like, "What? You gotta be kidding."
He was asked how close to 100% is Sullinger? He said, "Talking in terms of percentages is difficult." He went on to say, "In my four years of playing college basketball, I never felt at 100% for any game.
Matta said when Sully asked to come out of the game he asked him what's the matter? Sully said, "Someone stepped on my foot." Matta said he thought to himself something like, "What? You gotta be kidding."
He was asked how close to 100% is Sullinger? He said, "Talking in terms of percentages is difficult." He went on to say, "In my four years of playing college basketball, I never felt at 100% for any game.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 20, 2011 10:05am
I wouldn't mind Sully sitting this game. IMO, playing without Sully can only help this team as they go forward.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 20, 2011 4:03pm
Disagree. I see what your saying though. But I firmly believe in having ur team healthy so they can continue to develop a chemistry. Having a guy in and out, doesn't do that. On top of that, one area this team had some difficulty in, was getting the ball into the post. Last year, OSU was VERY good at that, especially Diebler. For this team to develop, get better, they need to be healthy.se-alum;1021585 wrote:I wouldn't mind Sully sitting this game. IMO, playing without Sully can only help this team as they go forward.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 20, 2011 6:46pm
Unfortunately injuries happen though, and if Sully ever has to be out for a 2-3 week stretch, I will feel much better knowing that they had an opportunity to see what it was like and what they need to do without Sully. We already know they're damn good w/ Sully.centralbucksfan;1022257 wrote:Disagree. I see what your saying though. But I firmly believe in having ur team healthy so they can continue to develop a chemistry. Having a guy in and out, doesn't do that. On top of that, one area this team had some difficulty in, was getting the ball into the post. Last year, OSU was VERY good at that, especially Diebler. For this team to develop, get better, they need to be healthy.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 20, 2011 7:00pm
Well, we saw what can happen without Sully vs Kansas. And it wasn't good. Not that Kansas is that great, they aren't. But they are much better than SC. I was very worried at half vs SC. But OSU came together in second half so I do feel better. But bottom line, without Sully OSU is not a top 10 team let alone a title contender. OSU needs him, period! The one good thing thus far without him, Thomas is coming into his own. The past few games, he looks so much more confortable on the court, and his confidence is at an all time high. Although he has been playing well all season, he has really stepped up lately.se-alum;1022369 wrote:Unfortunately injuries happen though, and if Sully ever has to be out for a 2-3 week stretch, I will feel much better knowing that they had an opportunity to see what it was like and what they need to do without Sully. We already know they're damn good w/ Sully.
I realize injuries are part of things. But not so much in bball as football. Especially when its ur franchise player!!! Can you imagine if OSU football lost Miller this past season and had to go with Bauserman? Ouch!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 20, 2011 7:28pm
You make it sound like I want Sully to be out for a long time?!? I want him to be healthy when he returns, and I think it benefits the team to play some of these easier games without him if he's not completely healthy. It serves 2 purposes, get Sully healthy, and teach this team how to play without him if they have to go a long stretch of a game or entire games without him. If he's 100% right now, you absolutely play him, obviously.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 20, 2011 11:08pm
Sully is healthy. That was evident tonite. It was also evident tonite he is not near big time game shape. And the team needs him in there to get back to where they were prior to him getting hurt. They struggled offensively tonite. Just not hitting on all cylinders. Matta said as much after the game that they need to get everyone practicing and playing together and getting better.se-alum;1022403 wrote:You make it sound like I want Sully to be out for a long time?!? I want him to be healthy when he returns, and I think it benefits the team to play some of these easier games without him if he's not completely healthy. It serves 2 purposes, get Sully healthy, and teach this team how to play without him if they have to go a long stretch of a game or entire games without him. If he's 100% right now, you absolutely play him, obviously.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 20, 2011 11:11pm
He also said Sully was at @ 70%, which I dunno, he seemed fine to me but fwiw.centralbucksfan;1022633 wrote:Sully is healthy. That was evident tonite. It was also evident tonite he is not near big time game shape. And the team needs him in there to get back to where they were prior to him getting hurt. They struggled offensively tonite. Just not hitting on all cylinders. Matta said as much after the game that they need to get everyone practicing and playing together and getting better.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 21, 2011 11:16am
Well, I guess I meant healthy enough to play. Its obvious he is not near in the game shape he needs to be. And that was Matta point as far as wanting him out there, getting in game shape, and playing with the team to continue to develop a chemistry as they get ready for the big ten. Big Ten starts next week with NW coming in, then a TOUGH trip to Bloomington on New Years Eve. If OSU plays as they did offensively last nite against IU, it could easily be an "L".ytownfootball;1022636 wrote:He also said Sully was at @ 70%, which I dunno, he seemed fine to me but fwiw.