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Jun 28, 2012 10:41 PM
Pick6;1214747 wrote:Hopefully somebody better than Casspi lol.

Really though, pretty sure we have some money, I'd like to see us spend some.

I think I read they have around 20 mill to spend which can really make this team competitive next year
Jun 28, 2012 10:41pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:42 PM
KR1245;1214749 wrote:Buy a 2nd rounder and gran Quincy Miller

I would love that actually
Jun 28, 2012 10:42pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:42 PM
Cavs looking to get another pick.
Jun 28, 2012 10:42pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:43 PM
Has there even been any euros picked? This has been the first time in a long time we have barely seen any
Jun 28, 2012 10:43pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:43 PM
Zeller might be better than what Dallas ended up taking. Good god.
Jun 28, 2012 10:43pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:44 PM
hoops23;1214752 wrote:Cavs looking to get another pick.
sign me up
Jun 28, 2012 10:44pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:46 PM
Who's left that the Cavs would be intersted in?

You would think it would have to be a sf
Jun 28, 2012 10:46pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:52 PM
I would love to see the proof that rob is claiming. Probably his little buddy crynasty or SQ claiming all star hofer for T^2.
Jun 28, 2012 10:52pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:53 PM
Lamb?
Jun 28, 2012 10:53pm
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Jun 28, 2012 10:59 PM
hoops23;1214767 wrote:Lamb?

He would be solid behind kyrie
Jun 28, 2012 10:59pm
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Jun 28, 2012 11:03 PM
hoops23;1214767 wrote:Lamb?
Is that a trade rumor? I like lamb a lot.
Jun 28, 2012 11:03pm
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Jun 28, 2012 11:06 PM
Dion Waiters per 40 minutes averaged 21 PPG 4 REB 4 AST 3 STL 36.3 % 3PT
Brad Beal per 40 minutes averaged 17 PPG 7 REB 2 AST 33.9% 3PT
Jun 28, 2012 11:06pm
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Jun 28, 2012 11:06 PM
Mulva;1214777 wrote:Is that a trade rumor? I like lamb a lot.
I saw a tweet about it. Doubt anything takes place tho.
Jun 28, 2012 11:06pm
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Jun 28, 2012 11:38 PM
hangonsloopy;1214783 wrote:Dion Waiters per 40 minutes averaged 21 PPG 4 REB 4 AST 3 STL 36.3 % 3PT
Brad Beal per 40 minutes averaged 17 PPG 7 REB 2 AST 33.9% 3PT
Careful....people don't like stats around here. I really never could understand why Beal was considered such a sharp shooter. His numbers don't shout out K Durant to me.
Jun 28, 2012 11:38pm
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Jun 29, 2012 12:00 AM
I'm cool with this draft. Nothing sexy, got 2 solid starters. Can't complain.

Mulva you're sounding a little crazy here...you don't have to hate every little thing your teams do lol
Jun 29, 2012 12:00am
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Jun 29, 2012 12:23 AM
SportsAndLady;1214813 wrote:Mulva you're sounding a little crazy here...you don't have to hate every little thing your teams do lol
I don't. I loved the Kyrie pick and thought he was a no-brainer #1 (unlike some who wanted Derrick Williams). I loved the Joe Haden pick. I loved most of the Browns late round picks this year. I loved the Danny Green pick a couple years back even though the Cavs ended up cutting him. Just to give a few examples.

But "my teams" have for the most part sucked for years. Hating everything they do would have been the correct choice a lot more often than loving everything they do.

Dion Waiters was one of my least favorite "top prospects" in the draft (along with Drummond, Henson, and Leonard). My least favorite of any top guard prospects outside of possibly Rivers, but that was because I didn't think Rivers fit with the Cavs at all, not based on talent.

Sorry, but I don't change my opinion just because they end up in Cleveland.
Jun 29, 2012 12:23am
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Jun 29, 2012 12:27 AM
Mulva;1214830 wrote:I don't. I loved the Kyrie pick and thought he was a no-brainer #1 (unlike some who wanted Derrick Williams). I loved the Joe Haden pick. I loved most of the Browns late round picks this year. I loved the Danny Green pick a couple years back even though the Cavs ended up cutting him. Just to give a few examples.

But "my teams" have for the most part sucked for years. Hating everything they do would have been the correct choice a lot more often than loving everything they do.

Dion Waiters was one of my least favorite "top prospects" in the draft (along with Drummond, Henson, and Leonard). My least favorite of any top guard prospects outside of possibly Rivers, but that was because I didn't think Rivers fit with the Cavs at all, not based on talent.

Sorry, but I don't change my opinion just because they end up in Cleveland.
I didn't mean it literally. Lol.

Zeller and Waiters are good additions to the team...it's not like MKG was there at 4 and we passed. We played the hand we were dealt. You don't have to hit a home run every pick.

Your hatred for the TT pick is just....well, stupid.
Jun 29, 2012 12:27am
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Jun 29, 2012 12:37 AM
SportsAndLady;1214831 wrote:Your hatred for the TT pick is just....well, stupid.
We'll see. I don't support taking a hustle/defense player #4 overall when the team needs literally everything except a starting PG, and your 2nd best player (after your new PG) is a hustle/defense player who also plays the 4.

Tristan is a legitimately awful offensive player. He was 194/442 shooting. He had 66 dunks. Even if he somehow missed 10% of his dunks, that still leaves him at 128/371 on non-dunks. 34.5%. Not to mention he has 0 passing ability and basically 0 ball-handling ability.

Offensive rebounds and help defense are worth the #4 pick? Until he proves he's more than that, I'm not the stupid one.
Jun 29, 2012 12:37am
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Jun 29, 2012 12:44 AM
0 ball-handling ability? I saw him drive to the basket quite a few times and he displayed some nice moves in the post... He often times got rushed though, which again, is to be expected for a raw big man who didn't have the benefit of a full training camp or a full slate of practices before the season began.
Jun 29, 2012 12:44am
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Jun 29, 2012 12:45 AM
And what exactly don't you like about Waiters? Did you like Beal? Who DID you like?
Jun 29, 2012 12:45am
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Jun 29, 2012 12:49 AM
From John Hollinger..
This year, we have two names to add to that list: Dion Waiters and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. Kidd-Gilchrist is probably the safest pick on the board -- a big wing who plays defense, has strong stats and comes with no character questions. From a risk-aversion perspective alone he should be a top-five pick; I have him third on my board after Robinson. (See below for how I would rank the prospects, regardless of their Draft Rater numbers.)

I have Waiters fourth for similar reasons. His size, 6-foot-4, is more of a concern, but whatever team made him a promise did a wise thing. Waiters projects as the best small wing since Dwyane Wade, and he'd be a steal if somebody got him in the Nos. 8-10 range currently being discussed.
Jun 29, 2012 12:49am
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Jun 29, 2012 12:51 AM
According to Chris Grant, Cavs will be very active in FA...
Jun 29, 2012 12:51am
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Jun 29, 2012 3:27 AM
hoops23;1214842 wrote:According to Chris Grant, Cavs will be very active in FA...

Mayo possibly?
Jun 29, 2012 3:27am
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Jun 29, 2012 7:04 AM
Crimson streak;1214865 wrote:Mayo possibly?
I wouldnt have a problem with that. I'm not sure they target a sg in FA when they just drafted one
Jun 29, 2012 7:04am
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Jun 29, 2012 7:11 AM
Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO

Cavs receiving lots of high praise for picks of Dion Waiters (4th) and Tyler Zeller (17) nationally - from opposing GMs, scouts & analysts."
Jun 29, 2012 7:11am