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Jun 29, 2012 2:06 AM
robj55;1214680 wrote:Strong argument there, I said I liked him as a rotational player, but he is most definitely overrated on here. Not to say he isn't a nice piece going forward.
Has anybody said that the kid is going to be a superstar? Most Cavs fans have said that he has a chance to be a solid starter in the league, thats it
Jun 28, 2012 10:06pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:06 AM
robj55;1214683 wrote:Don't get all defensive, I would probably rather have T2 than an injured Sully going forward.
Oh yeah... The defensive remark smh.

If that the case, what were you regarding the Heat? Lmao
Jun 28, 2012 10:06pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:07 AM
hoops23;1214684 wrote:And how is T2 overrated on here? Just because some of us liked the pick doesn't mean we're labeling him an all star lol.

He's got nice potential and will be a rotational player at the very worst.
I guess because a lot of people look at him on here as a cornerstone type of player when he is no more than a rotational player to me right now. Differing opinions are alright though.
Jun 28, 2012 10:07pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:08 AM
hoops23;1214687 wrote:Oh yeah... The defensive remark smh.

If that the case, what were you regarding the Heat? Lmao
Stop making this into a big deal, I made a comment that wasn't even derogatory. I said I like him as a player.
Jun 28, 2012 10:08pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:08 AM
robj55;1214689 wrote:I guess because a lot of people look at him on here as a cornerstone type of player when he is no more than a rotational player to me right now. Differing opinions are alright though.
Proof of people calling him a cornerstone player?
Jun 28, 2012 10:08pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:09 AM
hoops23;1214693 wrote:Proof of people calling him a cornerstone player?

Yes proof please. No way one person said that.
Jun 28, 2012 10:09pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:10 AM
robj55;1214692 wrote:Stop making this into a big deal, I made a comment that wasn't even derogatory. I said I like him as a player.
No, what you're doing is putting absurd accusations out there generalizing a fanbase on this board of saying things that weren't said.

I like T2 a lot. But I don't think he's a superstar in the making. He's going to be a very good role player and defender. Similar to Ibaka, but has work to do offensively.
Jun 28, 2012 10:10pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:10 AM
hoops23;1214693 wrote:Proof of people calling him a cornerstone player?
I said they look at him like that, not that they called him that. Maybe I overreacted because I always see people talking about him along with the likes of Kyrie. I just look at him as more of a complimentary piece.
Jun 28, 2012 10:10pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:12 AM
robj55;1214701 wrote:I said they look at him like that, not that they called him that. Maybe I overreacted because I always see people talking about him along with the likes of Kyrie. I just look at him as more of a complimentary piece.
If he's a complimentary piece on the Cavs, wouldn't he be talked about with Kyrie?
Jun 28, 2012 10:12pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:13 AM
hoops23;1214706 wrote:If he's a complimentary piece on the Cavs, wouldn't he be talked about with Kyrie?
I just wouldn't recognize him in the same sentence as someone like a Kyrie when it comes to your team's future, that's just me. Obvious generalization and overreaction from myself.
Jun 28, 2012 10:13pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:14 AM
robj55;1214631 wrote:I didn't see Waiters play a ton but he seems like he needs to be a ball dominant player to be effective, anyone watch him play a lot this past year?

I watched every game he played. Explosive player who can get to the bucket and finish. Not the best outside shooter but certainly solid and consistent enough. You can look at him and see that he has a solid frame and can and does absorb contact and still finishes. Some have made a big deal out of him not starting but Syracuse used him as "instant offense" off the bench due to their depth and just the dynamic of the team. Pretty good defender too. Very athletic. As others have said, I think some of you will be surprised. Pleasantly.
Jun 28, 2012 10:14pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:14 AM
hoops23;1214665 wrote:He wanted us to trade that pick for a pick in this draft so he could bitch about that pick then this year.
That would be a good point if I was the kind of guy who doesn't make it very clear who I want beforehand. Go back and check it out if you want. I said a 2 and a 3, some combo of lamb (my top choice), beal, ross, mkg, harkless, and t jones.

Notice how waiters was not on that fucking list, and how I have no control over who the cavs draft. I Bitch when I think they fuck up.
Jun 28, 2012 10:14pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:16 AM
killer_ewok;1214711 wrote:I watched every game he played. Explosive player who can get to the bucket and finish. Not the best outside shooter but certainly solid and consistent enough. You can look at him and see that he has a solid frame and can and does absorb contact and still finishes. Some have made a big deal out of him not starting but Syracuse used him as "instant offense" off the bench due to their depth and just the dynamic of the team. Pretty good defender too. Very athletic. As others have said, I think some of you will be surprised. Pleasantly.
Does he dominate the ball or play within the flow of the offense?
Jun 28, 2012 10:16pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:18 AM
robj55;1214716 wrote:Does he dominate the ball or play within the flow of the offense?
Byron Scott's Princeton offense utilizes two guards who can play with the ball. Kyrie was off the ball quite a bit towards te end of the season to utilize his shooting stroke.
Jun 28, 2012 10:18pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:20 AM
hoops23;1214721 wrote:Byron Scott's Princeton offense utilizes two guards who can play with the ball. Kyrie was off the ball quite a bit towards te end of the season to utilize his shooting stroke.

The princeton offense is just another reason why I think zeller will do well.
Jun 28, 2012 10:20pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:20 AM
hoops23;1214721 wrote:Byron Scott's Princeton offense utilizes two guards who can play with the ball. Kyrie was off the ball quite a bit towards te end of the season to utilize his shooting stroke.
I seem to recall him playing alongside Sessions some times as well.
Jun 28, 2012 10:20pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:22 AM
robj55;1214716 wrote:Does he dominate the ball or play within the flow of the offense?

I'd say he's most effective with the ball however he played with a lot of energy on defense and didn't pout when Kris Joseph, Scoop Jardine, Brandon Triche or others had big scoring games for the Orange. Wasn't a head case last year. Stepped up and took over when it was time but played his role when it was others' turn.

Syracuse was in transition a lot and in the half court it was a lot of 1-on-1 so I don't know about playing in the flow of the offense. He didn't have an outrageous ego though so I think there's good balance there mentally. Aggressive/assertive but not a me-first ball hog.
Jun 28, 2012 10:22pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:32 AM
Many on the RealCavsFans chat thread are likening our picks to our drafting of Dajuan Wagner and Chris Mihm.

Not sure how they will turn out, but Grant will be looking for a new job next year if they don't show some major promise this season to have justified the picks.
Jun 28, 2012 10:32pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:34 AM
IggyPride00;1214741 wrote:Many on the RealCavsFans chat thread are likening our picks to our drafting of Dajuan Wagner and Chris Mihm.

Not sure how they will turn out, but Grant will be looking for a new job next year if they don't show some major promise this season to have justified the picks.
RCF is a great source Iggy... Thanks for the contribution.
Jun 28, 2012 10:34pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:34 AM
Zeller is the perfect center for this offense. Runs the floor extremely well and rebounds very good. He will definitely open things up for t2 on the offensive glass. We still have fa so we could sign a solid sf or even oj mayo
Jun 28, 2012 10:34pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:35 AM
like_that;1214742 wrote:RCF is a great source Iggy... Thanks for the contribution.

Lol reps
Jun 28, 2012 10:35pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:36 AM
Did Reece just mess that up??

Wasn't the Cavs last pick sent to Dallas?
Jun 28, 2012 10:36pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:39 AM
Crimson streak;1214743 wrote:Zeller is the perfect center for this offense. Runs the floor extremely well and rebounds very good. He will definitely open things up for t2 on the offensive glass. We still have fa so we could sign a solid sf or even oj mayo
Hopefully somebody better than Casspi lol.

Really though, pretty sure we have some money, I'd like to see us spend some.
Jun 28, 2012 10:39pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:40 AM
like_that;1214742 wrote:RCF is a great source Iggy... Thanks for the contribution.
Reps lol
Jun 28, 2012 10:40pm
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Jun 29, 2012 2:41 AM
Pick6;1214747 wrote:Hopefully somebody better than Casspi lol.

Really though, pretty sure we have some money, I'd like to see us spend some.
Buy a 2nd rounder and gran Quincy Miller
Jun 28, 2012 10:41pm