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Raw Dawgin' it

Just Ain't Care

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Sep 14, 2011 1:07 PM
I'd like to see The Reem win just to have some new blood in the mix.
Sep 14, 2011 9:07am
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I Wear Pants

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Sep 14, 2011 1:29 PM
I don't. Dude sounds like a fucking moron.
Sep 14, 2011 9:29am
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Raw Dawgin' it

Just Ain't Care

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Sep 14, 2011 1:39 PM
I Wear Pants;895641 wrote:I don't. Dude sounds like a fucking moron.
Moron or not he's entertaining. You honestly don't want to see him get beat up? I hope he wins, i'm tired of seeing the same guys all the time
Sep 14, 2011 9:39am
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bigdaddy2003

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Sep 14, 2011 3:59 PM
I think BJ beats him and thus makes the fight with GSP less interesting. Pretty sad.
Sep 14, 2011 11:59am
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jmog

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Sep 14, 2011 5:25 PM
I think BJ is actually a tougher matchup for Diaz.

BJ completely cancels out Diaz's BJJ and while Diaz has faster hands, BJ has just as good boxing and more power.

Diaz doesn't have the boxing advantage over BJ like he did over GSP and he doesn't have the submission off his back advantage over BJ like he did GSP.
Sep 14, 2011 1:25pm
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NWIndianNation01

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Sep 14, 2011 5:28 PM
I will still take Diaz.:thumbup:
Sep 14, 2011 1:28pm
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robj55

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Sep 14, 2011 5:44 PM
"I'm not like these bitches. I'm not going to hold B.J. Penn down the whole time like these guys have done. They held B.J. down because they're bigger than him and stronger than him. I'm not going to do that. I'm not a little bitch to try and hold somebody down. I'm going to go out there and fight this tricky mother [expletive], and it could mean a lot of problems for me. It would have been a lot of problems for them, too, if they had fought him like I fight. They would have lost that fight." -Nick Diaz

Completely nailed it, there are people who come to fight and then there are people who come to win by exploiting the rules and avoiding the fight.
Sep 14, 2011 1:44pm
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robj55

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Sep 14, 2011 5:45 PM
jmog;895889 wrote:I think BJ is actually a tougher matchup for Diaz.

BJ completely cancels out Diaz's BJJ and while Diaz has faster hands, BJ has just as good boxing and more power.

Diaz doesn't have the boxing advantage over BJ like he did over GSP and he doesn't have the submission off his back advantage over BJ like he did GSP.
This fight will most likely take place all on the feet unless someone gets hurt and dropped. Nick will need to use his length and size advantage.
Sep 14, 2011 1:45pm
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jmog

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Sep 14, 2011 8:44 PM
robj55;895930 wrote:This fight will most likely take place all on the feet unless someone gets hurt and dropped. Nick will need to use his length and size advantage.
This is true, no way Diaz can take BJ down, and I'm not sure BJ will try a TD unless he has Diaz hurt.

BJ is most definitely better on top with his BJJ game and Diaz is better from bottom with his submission game, so that is the part of the matchup I want to see, BJ on top and Diaz on bottom, see who wins that battle.
Sep 14, 2011 4:44pm
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sportchampps

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Sep 14, 2011 9:46 PM
I think Diaz has more power then BJ on the feet
Sep 14, 2011 5:46pm
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Sep 14, 2011 10:15 PM
Glad to see Diaz come out a little bit. Dude is entertainment at his finest. Be looking forward to Oct 29
Sep 14, 2011 6:15pm
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Sep 14, 2011 10:23 PM
jmog;896158 wrote:This is true, no way Diaz can take BJ down, and I'm not sure BJ will try a TD unless he has Diaz hurt.

BJ is most definitely better on top with his BJJ game and Diaz is better from bottom with his submission game, so that is the part of the matchup I want to see, BJ on top and Diaz on bottom, see who wins that battle.
I agree, would love to see them roll but I don't see much of it, this will be a high paced exciting fight however.
Sep 14, 2011 6:23pm
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jmog

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Sep 14, 2011 10:43 PM
sportchampps;896198 wrote:I think Diaz has more power then BJ on the feet
Diaz's hands are faster, but BJ has more power in his hands than Diaz.
Sep 14, 2011 6:43pm
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Sep 15, 2011 1:02 AM
jmog;896243 wrote:Diaz's hands are faster, but BJ has more power in his hands than Diaz.
Yeah BJ has more one punch knockout power. Diaz throws a lot of 1/2 and 3/4 power punches to set up huge hooks to the head and body, more of a volume puncher and very accurate.
Sep 14, 2011 9:02pm
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Sep 15, 2011 2:19 AM
Finally got my UFC 116 poster up lol.



Now all I need is UFC 100 and UFC 141
Sep 14, 2011 10:19pm
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sportchampps

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Sep 15, 2011 2:22 AM
Penn has 7 ko wins out of 16 and Diaz has 13 out of his 25 bj has six by submission and diaz has 8. Bj has fought the better fighters but pretty even overall
Sep 14, 2011 10:22pm
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Sep 15, 2011 2:43 AM
BJ has by far fought the better fighters.
Sep 14, 2011 10:43pm
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Sep 15, 2011 2:59 AM
I Wear Pants;896434 wrote:BJ has by far fought the better fighters.
W/o a doubt.

BJ has fought:

-Fitch
-Hughes x3 (2-1)
-Edgar x2 (0-2)
-Sanchez
-Florian
-GSP x2 (0-2)
-Sherk
-Stevenson
-Pulver x2 (1-1)
-Renzo Gracie
-MACHIDA
-Gomi
-Serra
-Uno x2 (1-0-1)

Nick Diaz has not faced the same quality fighters:

-Daley
-Santos
-Noons (1-1)
-Sakurai
-Zaromskis
-Smith
-Shamrock
-Gomi (NC)
-Tibau
-Neer
-Sherk (UFC/loss)
-Riggs (UFC/loss)
-Sanchez (UFC/loss)
-Pariysan (UFC/loss)
-Lawler
Sep 14, 2011 10:59pm
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Sep 15, 2011 3:26 AM
Like I said I'm picking BJ thus taking the excitement out of the GSP fight.
Sep 14, 2011 11:26pm
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Sep 15, 2011 3:31 AM
So using mmath they have two common opponents: Sherk and Sanchez.

Diaz lost to both and BJ destroyed both.
Sep 14, 2011 11:31pm
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sportchampps

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Sep 15, 2011 6:10 AM
Yeah I dont see this ending well for Diaz but Penn hasnt looked like the Penn of old. Both of these guys can be head cases who knows who will show up

BTW i didnt mean the quality of the fighters were close i meant their records as far as kos and submissions were pretty close
Sep 15, 2011 2:10am
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jmog

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Sep 15, 2011 12:58 PM
I Wear Pants;896492 wrote:So using mmath they have two common opponents: Sherk and Sanchez.

Diaz lost to both and BJ destroyed both.
Don't say that to the Diaz nut huggers on here who truly believe he would have destroyed GSP.

I love watching Diaz, he is an exciting fighter, but until he proves it against top tier opponents, he is not on GSP's level, or even BJP.
Sep 15, 2011 8:58am
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Just Ain't Care

11,466 posts
Sep 16, 2011 12:06 PM
Woo, going to the fights tomorrow night, can't wait. Has anyone here been to a UFC event before? What's it like in person?
Sep 16, 2011 8:06am
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bigdaddy2003

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Sep 16, 2011 2:16 PM
I'm not a Diaz nut hugger by any means but I had a strange feeling he would beat GSP. We will probably never find out now though.
Sep 16, 2011 10:16am