sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 9:55am
Ok we already know this season is a fraud and whoever wins the NCG will have a giant * by their name.
Anyway, what have we learned? We learned that if you want a BCS bowl bid or a NCG bid, lose to the best team in your conference, especially if they are in your own division. This way you don't have to risk injury and take another week of beating, or another potential loss and get a free pass into the NCG or a BCS bowl. It's all about strategically losing rather than settling things on the field(except this year because not every game counts).
Anyway, what have we learned? We learned that if you want a BCS bowl bid or a NCG bid, lose to the best team in your conference, especially if they are in your own division. This way you don't have to risk injury and take another week of beating, or another potential loss and get a free pass into the NCG or a BCS bowl. It's all about strategically losing rather than settling things on the field(except this year because not every game counts).
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 6, 2011 10:19am
If by strategically losing you mean, avoid the #1 team in the country and lose to 6-6 teams who lost six games by an average of over 20 points, I'm not sure how well that'd work.sleeper;1004008 wrote:Ok we already know this season is a fraud and whoever wins the NCG will have a giant * by their name.
Anyway, what have we learned? We learned that if you want a BCS bowl bid or a NCG bid, lose to the best team in your conference, especially if they are in your own division. This way you don't have to risk injury and take another week of beating, or another potential loss and get a free pass into the NCG or a BCS bowl. It's all about strategically losing rather than settling things on the field(except this year because not every game counts).
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 10:22am
OK ST isn't avoiding anyone. They'd love a shot at LSU, and they'd win, prove me wrong.enigmaax;1004054 wrote:If by strategically losing you mean, avoid the #1 team in the country and lose to 6-6 teams who lost six games by an average of over 20 points, I'm not sure how well that'd work.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 6, 2011 10:50am
Well duh, who wouldn't like a shot at LSU? You have to take care of your own business first. When you can't handle craphole less than .500 teams who usually get pounded by 3 TDs when they play most decent teams, you can't just all of a sudden get handed a NC game. That is like a boxer getting beat up by a high school kid and bitching about not getting a shot at the world title.sleeper;1004062 wrote:OK ST isn't avoiding anyone. They'd love a shot at LSU, and they'd win, prove me wrong.
Heck, the worst thing about this is that if Alabama wins, we won't get to see two titans clash for a third time like Ali-Frazier. Every fight doesn't have to be for the title, but the ones that are just end up being bigger/better than anything else you could put together.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 10:51am
Apparently this doesn't apply to Alabama, a team that had a chance to take care of business and missed 5 FGs. That's just great defense though. Only in the SEC are missed FGs considered great defense.enigmaax;1004093 wrote:Well duh, who wouldn't like a shot at LSU? You have to take care of your own business first. When you can't handle craphole less than .500 teams who usually get pounded by 3 TDs when they play most decent teams, you can't just all of a sudden get handed a NC game. That is like a boxer getting beat up by a high school kid and bitching about not getting a shot at the world title.
Heck, the worst thing about this is that if Alabama wins, we won't get to see two titans clash for a third time like Ali-Frazier. Every fight doesn't have to be for the title, but the ones that are just end up being bigger/better than anything else you could put together.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 6, 2011 10:55am
A fluke loss to the best around doesn't expose you as much as blowing a 17 point lead to a chump team that wouldn't even have a winning record without that stunning upset.sleeper;1004099 wrote:Apparently this doesn't apply to Alabama, a team that had a chance to take care of business and missed 5 FGs. That's just great defense though. Only in the SEC are missed FGs considered great defense.
goosebumps
Posts: 1,058
Dec 6, 2011 10:56am
Future BCS stuff:
Future BCS title games:
2012: Bama vs. Florida
2013: Auburn vs. Florida
2014: Florida vs. LSU
2015: Bama vs. SEC team to be named at a later date.
Future BCS title games:
2012: Bama vs. Florida
2013: Auburn vs. Florida
2014: Florida vs. LSU
2015: Bama vs. SEC team to be named at a later date.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 10:57am
ISU wasn't a fluke loss? LOLenigmaax;1004108 wrote:A fluke loss to the best around doesn't expose you as much as blowing a 17 point lead to a chump team that wouldn't even have a winning record without that stunning upset.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 10:58am
Right, because those teams are clearly the best in the country and it doesn't matter what actually happens on the field. Just look at their roster!goosebumps;1004110 wrote:Future BCS stuff:
Future BCS title games:
2012: Bama vs. Florida
2013: Auburn vs. Florida
2014: Florida vs. LSU
2015: Bama vs. SEC team to be named at a later date.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 6, 2011 10:59am
No, it was a collapse of epic proportions that anyone wishing to be a champion would not have allowed to happen.sleeper;1004114 wrote:ISU wasn't a fluke loss? LOL
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 11:00am
At least in that game they only missed 1 GW FG instead of 5. I guess anyone wishing to be a champion would have recruited a kicker that can make 1 of 5 FGs.enigmaax;1004119 wrote:No, it was a collapse of epic proportions that anyone wishing to be a champion would not have allowed to happen.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 6, 2011 11:06am
Yes, kickers have bastardized the game. Much like the forward pass.sleeper;1004124 wrote:At least in that game they only missed 1 GW FG instead of 5. I guess anyone wishing to be a champion would have recruited a kicker that can make 1 of 5 FGs.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 11:12am
You take away kickers and there wouldn't be any offense in the SEC.enigmaax;1004137 wrote:Yes, kickers have bastardized the game. Much like the forward pass.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 6, 2011 11:14am
Defense wins championships. Best offense is a good defense. Don't whiz on an electric defense.sleeper;1004146 wrote:You take away kickers and there wouldn't be any offense in the SEC.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 11:16am
'Good defense' is perpetuated by bad offense. Luckily, bad offense trumps good defense. If a QB can't complete a pass, who cares about how good the CBs are? I'm almost convinced you could put special Olympic athletes out there to cover Alabama's offense and they'd still only manage a couple of missed FGs.enigmaax;1004153 wrote:Defense wins championships. Best offense is a good defense. Don't whiz on an electric defense.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 6, 2011 11:21am
And when you tell yourself these things, does it help you cope with your SEC issues?sleeper;1004158 wrote:'Good defense' is perpetuated by bad offense. Luckily, bad offense trumps good defense. If a QB can't complete a pass, who cares about how good the CBs are? I'm almost convinced you could put special Olympic athletes out there to cover Alabama's offense and they'd still only manage a couple of missed FGs.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 11:24am
If using logic, reason, and facts to dispel myths is "coping with my SEC issues", then yes.enigmaax;1004169 wrote:And when you tell yourself these things, does it help you cope with your SEC issues?
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Sonofanump
Dec 6, 2011 1:16pm
Hopefully this epic mess turns into a 8 team playoff.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7320125/chris-petersen-boise-state-broncos-everyone-tired-bcs
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7320125/chris-petersen-boise-state-broncos-everyone-tired-bcs
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 6, 2011 4:08pm
So...real question for everyone upset about LSU/Alabama in a rematch for the BCS title.
If Oregon takes care of business against USC, and jumps to #2 after Oklahoma State chokes away the lead to Iowa State, and everything plays out the same...would you still be upset about having LSU and Oregon in a rematch for the title the same way you are upset about LSU and Alabama in a rematch?
Or is the gripe simply because they are two SEC teams?
If Oregon takes care of business against USC, and jumps to #2 after Oklahoma State chokes away the lead to Iowa State, and everything plays out the same...would you still be upset about having LSU and Oregon in a rematch for the title the same way you are upset about LSU and Alabama in a rematch?
Or is the gripe simply because they are two SEC teams?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 4:14pm
Like I've said, if you can't win your own conference you don't deserve to play in the NCG. I'd be against the rematch of Oregon LSU especially if OK STwas in the same position they are now. If OKST was not in the picture with their accomplishments then go ahead with the rematch.sherm03;1004577 wrote:So...real question for everyone upset about LSU/Alabama in a rematch for the BCS title.
If Oregon takes care of business against USC, and jumps to #2 after Oklahoma State chokes away the lead to Iowa State, and everything plays out the same...would you still be upset about having LSU and Oregon in a rematch for the title the same way you are upset about LSU and Alabama in a rematch?
Or is the gripe simply because they are two SEC teams?
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 6, 2011 4:18pm
Oregon won their conference...but good try though.sleeper;1004590 wrote:Like I've said, if you can't win your own conference you don't deserve to play in the NCG. I'd be against the rematch of Oregon LSU especially if OK STwas in the same position they are now. If OKST was not in the picture with their accomplishments then go ahead with the rematch.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 6, 2011 4:18pm
I know your teams on your list are a joke, but LSU is pretty much a lock for next season. They have a better team with an easier schedule.goosebumps;1004110 wrote:Future BCS stuff:
Future BCS title games:
2012: Bama vs. Florida
2013: Auburn vs. Florida
2014: Florida vs. LSU
2015: Bama vs. SEC team to be named at a later date.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 4:20pm
Did you not read my post? I'd be okay with a rematch assuming OK ST wasn't 11-1 with a B12 championship. A rematch should only be done if all other deserving teams are exhausted. I know you are just a comedian but try to keep up.sherm03;1004600 wrote:Oregon won their conference...but good try though.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 4:21pm
And we've seen that whether they beat or lose to Bama is irrelevant. LSU will throw the game next year just to avoid having to play an extra week. I don't blame them.cats gone wild;1004602 wrote:I know your teams on your list are a joke, but LSU is pretty much a lock for next season. They have a better team with an easier schedule.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 6, 2011 4:22pm
However, if they win the NC this year, they may not have that "edge" next season--and that may prove fatal in their run to repeat.cats gone wild;1004602 wrote:I know your teams on your list are a joke, but LSU is pretty much a lock for next season. They have a better team with an easier schedule.