se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 6, 2011 9:39am
The SEC has the single greatest advantage in college football....oversigning. You should be the best when you get 5 recruiting classes every 4 years.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 6, 2011 11:12am
Truth.se-alum;1003977 wrote:The SEC has the single greatest advantage in college football....oversigning. You should be the best when you get 5 recruiting classes every 4 years.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 6, 2011 11:32am
Nobody would know who Tyrann Mathieu was if it wasn't for oversigning.WebFire;1004148 wrote:Truth.
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Dec 6, 2011 11:35am
Oversigning is the most egregious thing about college football and needs to be banned. I could care less about paying players, but destroying young men's lives is an all together other thing.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 6, 2011 12:23pm
But you rarely here about it, and that's the most frustrating part. It's the proverbial elephant in the room.georgemc80;1004197 wrote:Oversigning is the most egregious thing about college football and needs to be banned. I could care less about paying players, but destroying young men's lives is an all together other thing.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 6, 2011 12:35pm
Another frustrating this is the fact that there's no logical argument as to why it's allowed. There's nothing good about oversigning.vball10set;1004239 wrote:But you rarely here about it, and that's the most frustrating part. It's the proverbial elephant in the room.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Dec 6, 2011 1:43pm
all that proves is that LSU is better.sleeper;1003942 wrote:Well they didn't win their conference so that's at least 11 teams that are better than them for starters.
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Dec 6, 2011 1:55pm
KnightRyder;1004334 wrote:all that proves is that LSU is better.
so what would an Alabama victory mean then?
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 6, 2011 2:59pm
Who's going to expose it for what it is? Certainly not ESPN -- which has tens of millions of dollars invested in making sure the SEC and its network succeed. They have the biggest bully pulpit and they're only going to use it to shill for their own products -- and attack their competitors (the BTN and its teams).vball10set;1004239 wrote:But you rarely here about it, and that's the most frustrating part. It's the proverbial elephant in the room.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 6, 2011 3:11pm
ESPN did a special on oversigning, did they not?Writerbuckeye;1004478 wrote:Who's going to expose it for what it is? Certainly not ESPN -- which has tens of millions of dollars invested in making sure the SEC and its network succeed. They have the biggest bully pulpit and they're only going to use it to shill for their own products -- and attack their competitors (the BTN and its teams).
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 6, 2011 3:33pm
I'd like to see a 60 Minutes-type report done on this, interviewing some of the hundreds of kids who were negatively affected by oversigning. Leave the sports networks out of it, and let's get the human element involved. Maybe that'd open some eyes.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 6, 2011 3:55pm
se-alum;1003977 wrote:The SEC has the single greatest advantage in college football....oversigning. You should be the best when you get 5 recruiting classes every 4 years.
se-alum;1004189 wrote:Nobody would know who Tyrann Mathieu was if it wasn't for oversigning.
I dont know what other SEC teams do, but LSU has been at 26 or under every year except one year, so that doesnt give them 5 recruiting classes every 4 years. And now, they got scholarship reductions so they cant go over a certain # of recruits. TM7 went to 2 camps (tenn and bama) and they didnt want him, so LSU gave him a offer. Sucks to be tenn and bama for passing him up.georgemc80;1004197 wrote:Oversigning is the most egregious thing about college football and needs to be banned. I could care less about paying players, but destroying young men's lives is an all together other thing.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 6, 2011 3:58pm
another feather in your teams' hat, cats
http://www.toledoblade.com/Michigan/2011/12/06/UMs-Mattison-misses-Broyles-Award.html
http://www.toledoblade.com/Michigan/2011/12/06/UMs-Mattison-misses-Broyles-Award.html
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 6, 2011 4:03pm
Thats cool. There were plenty of guys who done great this year as assistants, so its probably hard to pick one. Chavis is a mastermind of defense though. He sure has changed LSU around after a disastrous 2008.vball10set;1004567 wrote:another feather in your teams' hat, cats
http://www.toledoblade.com/Michigan/2011/12/06/UMs-Mattison-misses-Broyles-Award.html
The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
Dec 6, 2011 4:08pm
All the "SEC wins too many national titles" is as bad as "Private Schools winning too many state titles!" whining. If this was the B10, 95% of the people who are pissing and moaning wouldn't say a fucking word aside from beating their chests about being the best and most dominant conference. They're better than you. Get over it.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 6, 2011 4:11pm
LSU didnt get a feather in the hat for 1st team all american punter, lol. FSU's punter did. Here's the stats.
"Shawn Powell, FSU: 49 punts for a 47.0 yard avg.
FSU opponents had 18 punt returns for 143 yards / a 7.9 yard avg.
21 punts inside opp 20
21 punts 50+ yards
Longest punt: 69 yards
Brad Wing, LSU: 57 punts for a 43.8 yard avg.
LSU opponents had 17 punt returns for 6 yards / a 0.4 yard avg.
23 punts inside opp 20
18 punts 50+ yards
Longest punt: 73 yards "
"Shawn Powell, FSU: 49 punts for a 47.0 yard avg.
FSU opponents had 18 punt returns for 143 yards / a 7.9 yard avg.
21 punts inside opp 20
21 punts 50+ yards
Longest punt: 69 yards
Brad Wing, LSU: 57 punts for a 43.8 yard avg.
LSU opponents had 17 punt returns for 6 yards / a 0.4 yard avg.
23 punts inside opp 20
18 punts 50+ yards
Longest punt: 73 yards "
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 4:12pm
Conferences don't win championships. And if they do, the B1G and B12 have more than the SEC. Enjoy!The Equalizer;1004575 wrote:All the "SEC wins too many national titles" is as bad as "Private Schools winning too many state titles!" whining. If this was the B10, 95% of the people who are pissing and moaning wouldn't say a ****ing word aside from beating their chests about being the best and most dominant conference. They're better than you. Get over it.
The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
Dec 6, 2011 4:17pm
Actually, having a better conference and playing a majority of your schedule against better competition helps the cream of those conferences reach the top and succeed in their goal by playing for national titles. In this year's example, two of their teams are better than every other team in every other conference. Enjoy that too.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 4:18pm
Cool. Enjoy being 3rd best. Also, how does it feel to be a stepping stone?The Equalizer;1004598 wrote:Actually, having a better conference and playing a majority of your schedule against better competition helps the cream of those conferences reach the top and succeed in their goal by playing for national titles. In this year's example, two of their teams are better than every other team in every other conference. Enjoy that too.
The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
Dec 6, 2011 4:20pm
The only thing I'm going to enjoy is another good game. I'm hoping to see more offense but I enjoy watching the best two teams play at the end of the year.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 4:21pm
LSU and OK ST aren't playing unfortunately. Enjoy!The Equalizer;1004607 wrote:The only thing I'm going to enjoy is another good game. I'm hoping to see more offense but I enjoy watching the best two teams play at the end of the year.
The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
Dec 6, 2011 5:25pm
Yea I know, OKS wasnt good enough, like Houston and every other team you've been trumpeting for. Maybe next year though.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2011 5:31pm
SEC! SEC! SEC!The Equalizer;1004681 wrote:Yea I know, OKS wasnt good enough, like Houston and every other team you've been trumpeting for. Maybe next year though.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 6, 2011 5:38pm
LSU's punter had to punt 8 more times than Fla St doesn't say much for LSU's offense. They got it right though the Fla St punter avg more yds, just because LSU's special teams cover kicks better than Fla St does doesn't mean he is a better punter.cats gone wild;1004586 wrote:LSU didnt get a feather in the hat for 1st team all american punter, lol. FSU's punter did. Here's the stats.
"Shawn Powell, FSU: 49 punts for a 47.0 yard avg.
FSU opponents had 18 punt returns for 143 yards / a 7.9 yard avg.
21 punts inside opp 20
21 punts 50+ yards
Longest punt: 69 yards
Brad Wing, LSU: 57 punts for a 43.8 yard avg.
LSU opponents had 17 punt returns for 6 yards / a 0.4 yard avg.
23 punts inside opp 20
18 punts 50+ yards
Longest punt: 73 yards "
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 6, 2011 6:21pm
It is truly amazing how much fans of SEC teams, love the whole SEC when their team is no good. As an Ohio State fan, I'll be damned if I ever root for UM, Wisconsin, PSU, or Nebraska to win the NCG. It's all a ploy to try to inflate the perception of their own team.