Non
Posts: 9,517
Dec 5, 2011 11:42am
They had a good mixture on Sunday.THE4RINGZ;1002652 wrote:Redman is the type of runner that can punish the browns. The Steelers have used him more this season in different roles.
Mendenhall 16 carries for 60 yards and 2 TDs.
Redman 8 carries for 51 yards
Their running game seems to work better when they rotate them both. Mendenhall even seems to run harder after Redman breaks off a couple of nice ones. He feels threatened.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 5, 2011 12:08pm
Damn. I don't get NFL Network. I have friends who do, but they're Browns fans, which means I could find myself getting gutted like a fish when I start getting obnoxious.
This is a conundrum.
This is a conundrum.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 5, 2011 12:13pm
I voted.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 5, 2011 12:13pm
Go with the latter, at least your browns fan friends will have something to cheer about.Heretic;1002807 wrote:Damn. I don't get NFL Network. I have friends who do, but they're Browns fans, which means I could find myself getting gutted like a fish when I start getting obnoxious.
This is a conundrum.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Dec 5, 2011 12:36pm
Browns could really use a win over the Steelers, in one of these games.
Stating the obvious here but they're having a terrible season.
Not generating any buzz. No life in the stadium when I turn on the games. At least last year they had that mini spurt about midseason. This has been a nothing of a season for the Browns. Surprising, I thought they'd be a lot better.
Stating the obvious here but they're having a terrible season.
Not generating any buzz. No life in the stadium when I turn on the games. At least last year they had that mini spurt about midseason. This has been a nothing of a season for the Browns. Surprising, I thought they'd be a lot better.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 5, 2011 12:39pm
When the head coach quits on you the players soon follow. There will be no more wins this year.Non;1002886 wrote:Browns could really use a win over the Steelers, in one of these games.
Stating the obvious here but they're having a terrible season.
Not generating any buzz. No life in the stadium when I turn on the games. At least last year they had that mini spurt about midseason. This has been a nothing of a season for the Browns. Surprising, I thought they'd be a lot better.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Dec 5, 2011 12:42pm
In hindsight, I think they should've stuck with Mangini. That was a pretty good year last year.
It ended bad getting thumped by the Steelers but overall they were making some strides.
It ended bad getting thumped by the Steelers but overall they were making some strides.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 5, 2011 12:44pm
You sir, have a PM.Non;1002907 wrote:In hindsight, I think they should've stuck with Mangini. That was a pretty good year last year.
It ended bad getting thumped by the Steelers but overall they were making some strides.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 5, 2011 12:45pm
I felt Mangini needed to go, but its looking like Shumer is worse. It has to be frustrating as hell to watch that shit product on the field every week....reminds me a lot OSU this year. Terrible play calling along with one mistake after another.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 5, 2011 12:49pm
Mangini is essentially the equivalent of Hitler wearing a headset. He had to go. Holmgren screwed up in giving him that extra year to be "fair" when everyone knew he was a lame duck.
As I said on the Browns thread, at least John Fox adapts his offense to fit the players (Tebow) in it. This team is equipped to RUN the ball yet Shurmur wants to forcefeed his "pass first" WCO.
As I said on the Browns thread, at least John Fox adapts his offense to fit the players (Tebow) in it. This team is equipped to RUN the ball yet Shurmur wants to forcefeed his "pass first" WCO.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Dec 5, 2011 12:50pm
Shurmur seems like he's in the mold of a Morningwhig (sp?), Linehan, Zorn, etc.
Coaches that just don't look the part as a head coach. Ever after one year you can tell he was not qualified.
Coaches that just don't look the part as a head coach. Ever after one year you can tell he was not qualified.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Dec 5, 2011 12:51pm
How about Jeff Fisher?
Good coach. Seems like a natural fit in the AFC North.
Good coach. Seems like a natural fit in the AFC North.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 5, 2011 12:55pm
Holmgren wants the guys from his "tree" (see nepotism) which is starting to looking like a soft ass pussified finesse group that has no idea how to play in a "tough" AFC North.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Dec 5, 2011 2:40pm
Holmgren also gave himself an extra year by keeping Mangini. Holmgren has pretty much been a given a free pass up to this point, but if things do not at least start to go in a positive direction, he has to be given some of the blame.BR1986FB;1002917 wrote:Mangini is essentially the equivalent of Hitler wearing a headset. He had to go. Holmgren screwed up in giving him that extra year to be "fair" when everyone knew he was a lame duck.
As I said on the Browns thread, at least John Fox adapts his offense to fit the players (Tebow) in it. This team is equipped to RUN the ball yet Shurmur wants to forcefeed his "pass first" WCO.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 5, 2011 2:40pm
It almost seems to me that shurmur knows the logical way of using colt(fast paced offense, 2 minute drill constantly) but just doesn't want him as his qb. He is making it as hard as possible for him so that he can use that as an excuse to part ways with him. At least in my opinion it does.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 5, 2011 2:50pm
Holmgren's pay check stealing ass has been getting plenty of blame with me. He hired Shurmur.Al Bundy;1003074 wrote:Holmgren also gave himself an extra year by keeping Mangini. Holmgren has pretty much been a given a free pass up to this point, but if things do not at least start to go in a positive direction, he has to be given some of the blame.
GoPens
Posts: 2,339
Dec 5, 2011 6:19pm
I'll go Steelers 24-17 with the game in doubt in the 4th.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 5, 2011 6:33pm
This won't be close. I know Pittsburgh has "played to the level of their competition" but they would have to play rock bottom in this game for it to be even close.GoPens;1003336 wrote:I'll go Steelers 24-17 with the game in doubt in the 4th.
McCoy was EXTREMELY lucky against Baltimore. He was telegraphing his throws and DB's were jumping routes. Too bad for Baltimore that their DB's have stone hands or they would've had 3-4 picks with at least one being for 6. Pittsburgh will be salivating when they see the game film.
And for those thinking "the Browns may pull out ALL the stops in this one?" The Browns have NO 'stops." "Exotic" for Shurmur is running on 2nd & short...normally he passes, it's incomplete as is the next pass...then a punt.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Dec 5, 2011 8:11pm
FUCK THE STEELERS! GO BROWNS!!!
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 7, 2011 12:03pm
If the Browns want to try to keep this respectable, they can't give up on the run. But knowing Shurmur, they will abandon it early and Pittsburgh's rush will pin their ears back.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Dec 7, 2011 12:05pm
BR1986FB;1005572 wrote:If the Browns want to try to keep this respectable, they can't give up on the run. But knowing Shurmur, they will abandon it early and Pittsburgh's rush will pin their ears back.
This is almost a guarantee...
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 7, 2011 12:13pm
You can beat the Steelers through the air.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 7, 2011 12:27pm
Checkdown Charlie (McCoy) and his band of craptastic WR's can't...THE4RINGZ;1005584 wrote:You can beat the Steelers through the air.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 7, 2011 12:31pm
I really don't understand why he abandons the run all the damn time. It cost him the cincy game.BR1986FB;1005572 wrote:If the Browns want to try to keep this respectable, they can't give up on the run. But knowing Shurmur, they will abandon it early and Pittsburgh's rush will pin their ears back.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 7, 2011 12:31pm
Swaggin' U will try to jump a route on the check down and miss, mark my words.